What a cool discussion!! Has anyone here tried drying fresh frozen bubble in the freezer? Not overnight in those fancy freezers but over a period of several weeks in a regular defrost freezer.
Hey JPG, did you ever find out (the science) as to what happens with the chlorophyll or the "curing, done by a "Freezer cure?" This is a reply from a person on another form when I recommended the "Freezer cure."
"Freezing may be a very good way to preserve fresh cannabis, by just removing the water. But freezing does not allow the integrated chemical, enzymatic and microbial breakdown of unwanted materials, such as chlorophyll and other dead plant cell debris (proteins, nucleic acids, lipids, sugars/carbohydrates, etc.), that we call 'curing.'"
You'll never get an answer. These guys aren't curing. Anyone who thinks it's about preserving what's already there isn't curing. Curing is conversion, evolution of secondary metabolites.
Freezing is for lame chemmy hydro grows. Nothing to convert so preservation of pre harvest terps, mostly fake ones from snake oil products like Terpenez and Sweet Citrus in my experience, is the best they can do.
Since I will never personally waste even a gram trying the freezer method, I'll do like Lord Skunkman and ask for scientific studies proving me wrong.
Make sure the buds are dry enough prior to putting in freezer. When buds are dry enough to be put in jars is the right time for the long sleep in the freezer.
Especially for the stoner types who are lazy or forgetful.
You'll never get an answer...
...I'll do like Lord Skunkman and ask for scientific studies proving me wrong.
...Since I will never personally waste even a gram trying the freezer method...
I did it once when some spider mites were setting up on a couple hanging plants, not as good as a proper jar cure by any stretch of the imagination but I did what I had to do
the more shortcuts one tries to take the more the final result suffers, this goes for all processes like trying to rush a flush, machine trimming etc
The phase diagram is a product of "classical" thermodynamics; it is the result of investigating the behavior of a "large" (typically milligrams and bigger) system. It is the wrong "tool" for understanding a process like sublimation. The boundary lines between phases are only the result of observations of behavior for a large system. At molecular scales, those lines would "blur out" considerably, because there is a distribution of energies for the molecules, so they are not all behaving in the same way. What looks like a single chip of ice to a human eye is a system consisting mostly of bound water molecules on an irregular surface, surrounded by a vapor layer of molecules, some breaking loose from that surface, some bonding up again, and some few escaping entirely.
The broad answer to your question is that there is no cutoff. Sublimation is always taking place; it is just an extremely slow process at low temperatures and becomes more significant as the ice approaches the phase boundary with vapor.
Another thing to consider is that a line is a phase diagram really tells us nothing more than that the bulk system is in transition. It is "all" (but not quite) one phase on one side of the line and "all" (but not quite) the other phase on the other side. The question of what is happening in the bulk system becomes more difficult to answer when it is very close to that line.
If you have condensation in your freezer, then it's not working properly. It could be something as simple as the door not closing properly because of an obstructed or bad door seal.
There's a fan in the back of the freezer that should be coming on every once in a while. I'm pretty sure it evacuates the air from the freezer to the fridge (or out if it's not a fridge/freezer combo).