Federal complaint filed against Sacramento pot shop

[stihgnobevoli]

you dispensary supporters are a buncha whiners, the people who don't like dispensaries are on the right track but a little too idealist.

dispensary is supposed to be about helping sick people get medicine, whether or not these people are just looking to get high. sick people, medicine. bottom line. this is what you said to the people who passed your law, then when the law passes what do you do? start trying to make as much money as you possibly can. for this you get no love. diaf for aLL I CARE oops caps.
no one's saying you have to live as a pauper and run yourself into the red to give people weed, but come the fuck on son we both know it does not cost $100 let alone $5000 to produce 1 pound of weed. you motherfuckers are just greedy, stop lying to yourselves you aren't fooling shit over here. if you really cared about the weed you would risk going to prison, you would risk death even to stand by your principles. you do not believe which is why you charge such exorbitants prices and rub your hands in glee whenever there is a shortage because you know it means you can buy that second mercedes benz.

i can see right through all your bullshit. i live in an illegal state and i grow plants i know can get me locked up, and i never sold a single gram in my life. i believe in what i am doing and i am willing to DIE for my beliefs. how about you?

as for the idealist "hippies" come on you guys know damn well running a storefront and having employees isnt free, that is my only gripe with you guys, the rest falls on the people running the dispensaries turning millions in profits...fucking PROFITS above and beyond operating costs. you fucking gloat about it, i have no love for you, you have no love for this plant you only love money.

i wish you no ill will, i wish no one anything bad over a plant, but if you get popped don't expect me to be doing too much rallying for you. we are trying to change perceptions that all of us are dirty hippies, stupid braindead stoners, or greedy drug dealers totin guns and bussin caps. you guys growing and bragging about your profits are really fucking it up for us, makes everyone look like a buncha guys walking around with blind man canes and dodging shit we shouldnt be able to see.

you really expect the feds to stop kicking in doors on innocent people in wheelchairs who are dying when you all are all over the tv's and documentaries, and forums and etc bragging about all the monies you make?

gimme a goddamn break.

if you really were about compassion weed in dispensaries whether for treating cancer or for doing better kick flips would not cost $30 a teenth, it would be so cheap that there would be no point in selling it black market for high prices.

but that won't ever happen, no profit$$.

you can lock the thread as you guys always do when i point out the logic fail in charging tons of money for compassionate care.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

you dispensary supporters are a buncha whiners, the people who don't like dispensaries are on the right track but a little too idealist.

dispensary is supposed to be about helping sick people get medicine, whether or not these people are just looking to get high. sick people, medicine. bottom line. this is what you said to the people who passed your law, then when the law passes what do you do? start trying to make as much money as you possibly can. for this you get no love. diaf for aLL I CARE oops caps.
no one's saying you have to live as a pauper and run yourself into the red to give people weed, but come the fuck on son we both know it does not cost $100 let alone $5000 to produce 1 pound of weed. you motherfuckers are just greedy, stop lying to yourselves you aren't fooling shit over here. if you really cared about the weed you would risk going to prison, you would risk death even to stand by your principles. you do not believe which is why you charge such exorbitants prices and rub your hands in glee whenever there is a shortage because you know it means you can buy that second mercedes benz.

i can see right through all your bullshit. i live in an illegal state and i grow plants i know can get me locked up, and i never sold a single gram in my life. i believe in what i am doing and i am willing to DIE for my beliefs. how about you?

as for the idealist "hippies" come on you guys know damn well running a storefront and having employees isnt free, that is my only gripe with you guys, the rest falls on the people running the dispensaries turning millions in profits...fucking PROFITS above and beyond operating costs. you fucking gloat about it, i have no love for you, you have no love for this plant you only love money.

i wish you no ill will, i wish no one anything bad over a plant, but if you get popped don't expect me to be doing too much rallying for you. we are trying to change perceptions that all of us are dirty hippies, stupid braindead stoners, or greedy drug dealers totin guns and bussin caps. you guys growing and bragging about your profits are really fucking it up for us, makes everyone look like a buncha guys walking around with blind man canes and dodging shit we shouldnt be able to see.

you really expect the feds to stop kicking in doors on innocent people in wheelchairs who are dying when you all are all over the tv's and documentaries, and forums and etc bragging about all the monies you make?

gimme a goddamn break.

if you really were about compassion weed in dispensaries whether for treating cancer or for doing better kick flips would not cost $30 a teenth, it would be so cheap that there would be no point in selling it black market for high prices.

but that won't ever happen, no profit$$.

you can lock the thread as you guys always do when i point out the logic fail in charging tons of money for compassionate care.

hahahhaha bruh less than $100 to grow a pound?? every dispensary is turning "millions in profits"???

what evidence is this based on?!?

ive been in this since 03 and have been growing since 98 and electricity rates alone run me about $600 /lb ... after labor, nuterients, rent, trimmers etc... the cost is usually somewhere in teh $1k-1.4k range per pound... thats not even considering construction and equipment costs... and if i was pulling millions in profits a year i would be sitting on the beach on some exotic island somewhere having beautiful women feeding me grapes as i get back massage with ultimate happy endings.... not spending 14-17 hour days busting and risking my ass - praying im not going to have some thugs try and rob my store or some agents kick the door in and hit me with a 20 year prison sentance.

most of you have no idea how much work stress and overhead goes into one of these shops...

and believe me if i could grow high quality top shelf medicinal grade indoor cannabis for less than $100 a pound - NOBODY would ever have to pay more than $1 a gram

...and who are all these people bragging about the money? usually when i see any shop owners on tv (which is damn near unheard of...) they are saying they are compassionate to help the sick and usally have started a shop because of someone they know who was helped by MMJ...

 

[Yes4Prop215]

Problem ain't growers, problem ain't dispensaries, problem ain't non-growing buyers...

The Problem is bad law.

Outright legalization with non-intrusive oversight against criminals and rippers would benefit everyone. The State gets it cut in tax, the market price becomes competitive resulting in better product for cheaper to the consumer, and the farmer will have to sink or swim based on his skill/ product.

Just like any other legal commodity.
You want Busch quality, you get it. A micro-brew with hops rolled on the thighs of virgins?
You got that too. The profits those products will bring will subsidize charity meds for the less fortunate the same as any business that likes to claim a community outreach for public relations. Support the good guys , screw the bad guys.

The market works. It has for 10,000 yrs. Having Govts. pick the players and the favorites does not.
Sensible, realistic law reflecting these realities will bring a boon to all except the scammers and the sharks that exploit an uneven and rigged marketplace that result from bad law and arbitrary regulation.

Rant off/

i second this....open market free legalization, just like winery, brewery, or if your farming cilantro. then use the existing dispensary system to vend to customers..people can walk into a club and decide what brands they want to purchase. most farms would be certified organic so that would ease minds about smoking chemmy herbs...


stigno your post is so full of arrogant angry tones im not even going to delve into. mostly just innaccurate slander at a system you think you understand but you have absolutely no idea whats going on here in california.....yes the dispensarys themselves generate alot of revenue and some owners are skimming off the top...but most of the growers and suppliers here are not driving mercedes benzs we are regular mom and pop shops....

most pot does not cost 100 bucks an LB to grow. i spent 5000 dollars this year to grow 30lbs outdoors. thats 170 a LB, then you gotta factor in the hundreds of hours i spent setting that shit up, driving thousands of miles roundtrip on the freeway...expenses for rent another 5000, at the end of the day i figure we spent around 500 or so for each LB....indoor costs are way up...in california its .41 cents per KWH during peak usage.....


yes 17 dollar grams, 60 dollar 8ths are pretty extreme, but people are willing to pay that much so they do it.....also most clubs have a discount section with 25-35 dollar 8ths the quality just aint that good... i think a fair market value is around 30-40 dollars an 8th for good weed......of course there will always be top notch elites that will sell for 60-80-100......if a bottle of wine sells for 400 bucks, why cant marijuana? even though many many people are growing weed....only a percentage are actually producing good top notch weed......so that dictates the market right now. if everyone was growing the best of the best prices might be different...so dont hate the game hate all the idiot commercial guys who grow garbage...



BHT- strigno has zero evidence, hes just ranting about an image hes created in his own head......i hate it when people post ignorant baseless comments like "all growers cant wait to buy their 2nd benz with their latest crop..." hahaha please...

 

[stihgnobevoli]

thats pretty fucked up, doesn't cost me near anywhere that much to buy a bottle of bloom, a bottle of micro, a bag of dirt, and run 1000w for 4 months. goddamn where the fuck do you live?

pick a weed documentary not focusing on teaching you how to grow and you will find plenty of smiling faces talking about their dispensary or collective and the edibles they make and the organics they use and last but certainly not least how much money they rake in hand over fist selling what costs a couple hundred to produce by the pound for a couple hundred per ounce.


cmon dude you really telling me it costs you $1500 bucks to produce 1 single pound of weed? lets be honest with each other dude, this is the internet i will never meet you in real life. come off it. you know goddamn well thats a lie.

i heard you guys pay 40 cents per kwh in cali, i put it to a wattage calculator, i gave you 1000watts 24/7 it will cost you around $850 for 4 months. surely you can get more than 1lb out of a 1kw lamp? i've never even grown a large plant under that much light but im sure i can put 1 plant under a 1kw light and get more than 1lb out of it. im sure i could prolly get 4 plants under there and get like 6lbs out of big ass bushes, guessing my ass off. but im certain i could get at least 1lb out of 1kw even without taking any care of it, its inevitable in a large enough container. sell it for $4k standard price right and you still make $3k in profit.

you guys need to start being honest or get a new job, it's totally not worth it the way you're doing it.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

thats pretty fucked up, doesn't cost me near anywhere that much to buy a bottle of bloom, a bottle of micro, a bag of dirt, and run 1000w for 4 months. goddamn where the fuck do you live?

pick a weed documentary not focusing on teaching you how to grow and you will find plenty of smiling faces talking about their dispensary or collective and the edibles they make and the organics they use and last but certainly not least how much money they rake in hand over fist selling what costs a couple hundred to produce by the pound for a couple hundred per ounce.


cmon dude you really telling me it costs you $1500 bucks to produce 1 single pound of weed? lets be honest with each other dude, this is the internet i will never meet you in real life. come off it. you know goddamn well thats a lie.

electricity alone is $141 per light per month. + a/c + blowers + fans + etc it might be MORE than $600 per pound. on top of that i dont use "a bottle of bloom" and a "bottle of micro". i use h&g or pbp - both of which with a host of additives and have to buy my clones for $5-7 each. so on top of the hard costs + labor + trimmers + warehouse lease... yeah im at least $1k-1.5k in it per pound. that aint no fucking lie bruh. thats just what it is. im in SoCal and EVERYTHING is more expensive here.

if you can grow stuff like this for $100 per pound more power to you::

 

[kmk420kali]

you dispensary supporters are a buncha whiners, the people who don't like dispensaries are on the right track but a little too idealist.

dispensary is supposed to be about helping sick people get medicine, whether or not these people are just looking to get high. sick people, medicine. bottom line. this is what you said to the people who passed your law, then when the law passes what do you do? start trying to make as much money as you possibly can. for this you get no love. diaf for aLL I CARE oops caps.
no one's saying you have to live as a pauper and run yourself into the red to give people weed, but come the fuck on son we both know it does not cost $100 let alone $5000 to produce 1 pound of weed. you motherfuckers are just greedy, stop lying to yourselves you aren't fooling shit over here. if you really cared about the weed you would risk going to prison, you would risk death even to stand by your principles. you do not believe which is why you charge such exorbitants prices and rub your hands in glee whenever there is a shortage because you know it means you can buy that second mercedes benz.

i can see right through all your bullshit. i live in an illegal state and i grow plants i know can get me locked up, and i never sold a single gram in my life. i believe in what i am doing and i am willing to DIE for my beliefs. how about you?

as for the idealist "hippies" come on you guys know damn well running a storefront and having employees isnt free, that is my only gripe with you guys, the rest falls on the people running the dispensaries turning millions in profits...fucking PROFITS above and beyond operating costs. you fucking gloat about it, i have no love for you, you have no love for this plant you only love money.

i wish you no ill will, i wish no one anything bad over a plant, but if you get popped don't expect me to be doing too much rallying for you. we are trying to change perceptions that all of us are dirty hippies, stupid braindead stoners, or greedy drug dealers totin guns and bussin caps. you guys growing and bragging about your profits are really fucking it up for us, makes everyone look like a buncha guys walking around with blind man canes and dodging shit we shouldnt be able to see.

you really expect the feds to stop kicking in doors on innocent people in wheelchairs who are dying when you all are all over the tv's and documentaries, and forums and etc bragging about all the monies you make?

gimme a goddamn break.

if you really were about compassion weed in dispensaries whether for treating cancer or for doing better kick flips would not cost $30 a teenth, it would be so cheap that there would be no point in selling it black market for high prices.

but that won't ever happen, no profit$$.

you can lock the thread as you guys always do when i point out the logic fail in charging tons of money for compassionate care.

How many ppl are you employing?? Oh...none-- We go through hundreds of lbs a year at our D-- Do you think you just plant a few plants, and start a Dispensary?? $80 to a hundred grand just to get going...not counting medicine-- Then..even though we grow 200 lbs a year in-house...it is not even close to what is needed...so you have to buy product from other growers--
Now...you're going to do all that, and then sell so cheap that ppl buy all your meds...just to flip them on the streets??
I don't think so bro-- You really have no idea what you are talking about-- I understand Idealism....but you need to mix in a li'l Realism too--

 

[smokefrogg]

....i want to chime on on dispensaries and cheap 1/8s

there were a few i'd frequent that always had decent 20$~30$ 1/8s, sometimes it'd need another day or 2 of drying, sometimes it'd be loose outdoor sativa, sometimes there were some seeds (score!), but it was usually pretty damn decent! man this spot was getting $25 1/8 "acapulco gold" 2 years back, that stuff was actually golden and had this amazing creamy taste, we did get 1 of the seeds we found to grow, turned out to be a bitchin' female, ah yes i miss going to that place to buy seeds, errr cheap herbs

 

[stihgnobevoli]

come off it you guys are exaggerating as wildly as i was when i said i could prolly get 6 pounds off 1kw first time out the gate. im obviously not being completely honest, now it's your turn to fess up. why would you be taking all this risk to run in the red? unless you are truly compassionate in which case power to the people where do i sign up i will work for you for room and board. nothing else.

you guys really kill me with the "if you can grow weed like this <insert picture="" of="" random="" frosty="" nug="" as="" if="" its="" rare=""> then alright alright alright! you gon' learn today."

yeah i have grown weed that looked just like that, quite a few times, in a hot growbox under 70watts. its not magic, it's just weed, and its not rocket science to grow plants. they only need a few things to live all of which are readily available at hand if you know anything about the principles behind how plants grow and aren't just another "cook" following a recipe.


sounds like that rez thread where he was trying to make it seem as if crossing plants and making seeds was some sort of complex alchemical task requiring the crafting of a philosophers stone before hand.


you take some seeds and you grow em, you take the plants you like and you cross them. then you keep selecting and crossing till you get what you want. the end.
im sorry i just took all the mystery out of cross breeding, not like man hasn't been doing it since the dawn of time...</insert>

 

[kmk420kali]

come off it you guys are exaggerating as wildly as i was when i said i could prolly get 6 pounds off 1kw first time out the gate. im obviously not being completely honest, now it's your turn to fess up. why would you be taking all this risk to run in the red? unless you are truly compassionate in which case power to the people where do i sign up i will work for you for room and board. nothing else.

Can I ask what you think is being exaggerated...and why??
And most are not running in the red...but when you hear ppl say "we took in $X million"...that is before all the expences-- Don't get me wrong...there is $$ to be made...but not like most think--

 

[FullyMeltedDome]

no one's saying you have to live as a pauper and run yourself into the red to give people weed, but come the fuck on son we both know it does not cost $100 let alone $5000 to produce 1 pound of weed]. Thats true,but overhead needs to be takin care of,insurance, elec, employees and buying the weed because most disps buy from growers and not grow it themselves etc etc etc.But im all about helping the sick first and lowering prices on meds,that would make one stand out over another which in turn would get more people through the doors and the same money could be made in the long run .But i say i dont care if the owner/operater is making millions as long as he/she treats the people right with excellent Meds at a good price that are affordable to the sick who dont or cant work or those on a limited income that struggle and have a hard time to purchase the Meds they very much need.Again,The profit to me is irrelevent as long as they sell the Meds for an honest price that the sick and needy can afford.Not all Compassion Centers are all about money,believe it or not,some people really do care imo.Peace and Stay Safe,DancesWithWeed

 

[JJScorpio]

come off it you guys are exaggerating as wildly as i was when i said i could prolly get 6 pounds off 1kw first time out the gate. im obviously not being completely honest, now it's your turn to fess up. why would you be taking all this risk to run in the red? unless you are truly compassionate in which case power to the people where do i sign up i will work for you for room and board. nothing else.

you guys really kill me with the "if you can grow weed like this <insert picture="" of="" random="" frosty="" nug="" as="" if="" its="" rare=""> then alright alright alright! you gon' learn today."

yeah i have grown weed that looked just like that, quite a few times, in a hot growbox under 70watts. its not magic, it's just weed, and its not rocket science to grow plants. they only need a few things to live all of which are readily available at hand if you know anything about the principles behind how plants grow and aren't just another "cook" following a recipe.


sounds like that rez thread where he was trying to make it seem as if crossing plants and making seeds was some sort of complex alchemical task requiring the crafting of a philosophers stone before hand.


you take some seeds and you grow em, you take the plants you like and you cross them. then you keep selecting and crossing till you get what you want. the end.
im sorry i just took all the mystery out of cross breeding, not like man hasn't been doing it since the dawn of time...</insert>

Huh? LMAO............ This would be a great sig, lol.......

 

[kmk420kali]

come off it you guys are exaggerating as wildly as i was when i said i could prolly get 6 pounds off 1kw first time out the gate. im obviously not being completely honest, now it's your turn to fess up. why would you be taking all this risk to run in the red? unless you are truly compassionate in which case power to the people where do i sign up i will work for you for room and board. nothing else.

you guys really kill me with the "if you can grow weed like this <insert picture="" of="" random="" frosty="" nug="" as="" if="" its="" rare=""> then alright alright alright! you gon' learn today."

yeah i have grown weed that looked just like that, quite a few times, in a hot growbox under 70watts. its not magic, it's just weed, and its not rocket science to grow plants. they only need a few things to live all of which are readily available at hand if you know anything about the principles behind how plants grow and aren't just another "cook" following a recipe.


sounds like that rez thread where he was trying to make it seem as if crossing plants and making seeds was some sort of complex alchemical task requiring the crafting of a philosophers stone before hand.


you take some seeds and you grow em, you take the plants you like and you cross them. then you keep selecting and crossing till you get what you want. the end.
im sorry i just took all the mystery out of cross breeding, not like man hasn't been doing it since the dawn of time...</insert>

How many hundreds of pounds you bangin' out?? Bro...it is one thing doing a 200 watt closet grow...it is another busting out enough to run a Legit D--
We have $1050 a week in labor-- $2500 a week in the last 30 days of flower...just for Security-- (EDIT* That is per person, the last month, we have 3-8 ppl there tying up plants and security)
Lucky we are greenhouse growers...electricity would kill us!!!

 

[Yes4Prop215]

everybody should stop arguing with Stig. he obviously knows everything there is to know about commercial cultivation, especially with his years of experiance running a small closet grow.


seriously man....you have no idea what you are talking about. your calculations are based on heresay and things you fabricate in your mind.


please go setup a 5 light grow and tell me what herb costs to grow and what your time and stress is worth, especially in california where rent and electricity are very high...


im done with you, back to endless harvest and trimming because im actually out here growing, while you are armchair argueing with real growers who pull real harvests.....

the funniest part is that you pulled this exact same thing in the other thread...you are the lone voice of insanity while actual growers tell you whats real, and yet you continue to pull numbers out of thin air of what weed is supposed to be worth..

 

[stihgnobevoli]

yet here we are again and you are crying about how much money you arent making when this is totally not about the profits. right?

anyway math is math whether 1 plant in a closet or many plants in a large space, the underlying principles don't change simply because you extrapolate or multiply. if i can get 2 ounces out of 2 square feet under 70w why can't i get 10 times that amount out of 10 times the plants or 10 times the amount of light?

which is all i was doing but im wrong for extrapolating simply because i don't own a warehouse and waste a lot of money on snake oil to give me extra shiny molecules for my buds.

so 2 ounces under 70 watts cant be multiplied to 20 ounces under 700watts? cuz thats pretty much what you're telling me.

anyway you can continue making everyone else think growing weed requires a degree in biology and chemistry, but i know better.

 

[stihgnobevoli]

Huh? LMAO............ This would be a great sig, lol.......

i don't get it, why are you all trying to ridicule me away? maybe you don't know of gregor mendel? i learned of him in 4th grade when i was 9 years old. are you saying that mendel and punnet are not the methods you all are using to produce seed? please enlighten me then. here i was thinking all that these seed vendors were doing was cross breeding plants.


is there magic and runes involved? do you invoke lord satan in the process. please do expound, because your ridiculing certainly makes it seem like i am way wrong on this.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

EXPERIANCE TOPS MATH. end of story. your math equations are all good for theoretical calculations.....BUT PLEASE DO A REAL GROW AND TELL ME YOUR NUMBERS STAY THE SAME. costs and risk rise with increased production...20 ounces off a 700 is a pretty high yield i dont know anybody hitting that kind of numbers i pull maybe 18 zones per 1kw light with my current setup....

stop arguing on the internet and go get some real life practical experiance......you do realize that trimming alone runs 150-200 a LB that alone covers your supposed costs. and im supposed to be in the 90 degree sun getting burnt and bit by bugs harvesting my plants...just to give it away for free to some lazy stoner sitting in an air conditioned room relaxing? and you do realize that for me to donate meds to poor and sick patients (which i do whenever i can) i have to charge a regular stoner regular price to cover for that.....basic economics, basic commercial agriculture. any work from vineyards to picking pears is pretty intense manual labor that you cant comprehend until you do it...

LABOR COSTS MATTER TOO BUDDY...most of us up here on the mountain and those doing big indoor make large sacrifices to do what we do.....i could be in the city partying and socializing maybe even meet my future wife...but no im in the mountains with a bunch of sweaty guys trimming non stop for hours and hours, go to sleep on a couch, wake up and trim for hours more. you arent ready for this kind of sacrifice i'l trim your entire 70 watt closet harvest while sitting on the toilet taking a dump.....


have a nice day...i got pounds to harvest.

 

[hazydreams]

yet here we are again and you are crying about how much money you arent making when this is totally not about the profits. right?

anyway math is math whether 1 plant in a closet or many plants in a large space, the underlying principles don't change simply because you extrapolate or multiply. if i can get 2 ounces out of 2 square feet under 70w why can't i get 10 times that amount out of 10 times the plants or 10 times the amount of light?

which is all i was doing but im wrong for extrapolating simply because i don't own a warehouse and waste a lot of money on snake oil to give me extra shiny molecules for my buds.

so 2 ounces under 70 watts cant be multiplied to 20 ounces under 700watts? cuz thats pretty much what you're telling me.

anyway you can continue making everyone else think growing weed requires a degree in biology and chemistry, but i know better.

dude it does not scale linearly. i can attest to that. there is absolutly no way to give the increased plant number the same amount of attention as one or two in a small space. Let alone the same light intensity. One of the reason i started the micro cab to test this theory. if i was pulling 90 grams a square foot from a 1000w HPS covering 16 square feet i would be at close to 3 and a quarter pounds. That would make me super happy and probably set some type of gram per watt record. but its totally a pipe dream.

the only way to crank out 2 pounds per 1k is a shit load of work. which requires over head and most likely alot of co2 to get there. factor in environmental needs like ac and ventilation and humidity control and things get expensive fast.

Its nice to sit and dream about 100's of pounds and how easy it would be. even stepping up from a 1k operation to a 6k operation is a labor increase and overhead increase of like 12-14 fold.

my three cents (adjusted for inflation)

 

[FullyMeltedDome]

Im just wondering what your plan would be and how you would help the sick and needy and how you would go about it as far as cash,spending , workers and charging and all the overhead that would be how you would want it and different from how everyone else does it? Thanks.Peace and Stay Safe,DancesWithWeed.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

dude it does not scale linearly. i can attest to that. there is absolutly no way to give the increased plant number the same amount of attention as one or two in a small space.

\. even stepping up from a 1k operation to a 6k operation is a labor increase and overhead increase of like 12-14 fold.

my three cents (adjusted for inflation)

pretty much nailed it....everything increases exponentially the larger you go. ive went from 150 watt closets and a few plants in the backyard to a small 5 light and varioius outdoor grows and the workload doesnt even compare. growing in a closet is a breeze, i would pull a qp from every 150 watt closet, required little work.


i know dozens of growers and none of those guys are driving their 2nd benz or even their first....some are doing alrite but the smart ones save, reinvest, and stay lowkey..

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

hahahh wait a fucking minute.... am i really arguing with some dood growing 2 measly fucking plants in a closet trying to explain to me the REAL costs of what it takes to produce medicinal grade cannabis on a commercial scale??? thats like me saying >>> oh well last month i build that cinder block wall. im pretty sure that i could build the pyramids of giza.. i mean what?? its just some blocks you just got to stack them up right? hahahahha

bruh im out on this one. im not sure how i got caught up on this to begin with. only people bitching about owners ++ growers is the ones who aint doing it. because its ALWAYS easier&greener on the other side of the fence. well jump the fence,, put in the work and tell me how easy it is.

^^^just added a 20 piece addition. between construction and equipment its going to cost around $25k+

and with that im done. you think its so fucking easy and there so much money to be made ++ its a free country dood - step the fuck up and come show us money hungry greedy imperial capalists how easy ++ profitable it is...

--BhT