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[accessndx]

Access- multiple steps to killing thrips:

Bombs- Set them off at intervals of 4 days, 3 if you are running quite warm. You have to kill protected instars, such as the eggs (in meristematic tissue) and pupae (under soil surface), by letting them hatch out and become vulnerable. I'd set off 3 bombs.

Physical barrier- Cut a slit to the center of a paper plate. Slide it around the stem of your plant, LOOSELY covering the surface of the pot. Thrips pupate in the soil; the larvae must drop off the leaf surface and burrow into the soil to become winged sexual adults. If they hit the plate and fall on the floor, they are helpless and starve to death.

Sticky traps- Can be put on the soil surface to monitor and trap winged adults. Thrips prefer blue over the more common yellow ones that gnats and whiteflies are drawn to.

Hope that helps!

SA: I was thinking about this last night while researching thrips. Apparently they do develop in the soil....however, I'm using hydroton.....would you think the same is applicable? How are they able to thrive in an ebb & flow setup?
I'd think they'd drown and be washed away. It seems unfeasible that this would be the case for my particular hydroponic layout. What are your thoughts about this?
I'm wondering if this fact will also work in my favor with regards to keeping their population in check while attempting other methods of elimination.
If one of the primary places these bugs live and develop is the soil and I have a soil-less medium like hydroton.....that may be one strike against their survival long term.
As far as the blue sticky traps are concerned: I've never seen blue ones.....hmmmmmmmmmm. I'll have to look into that.

Thanks a bundle.

 

[stinkyattic]

Blue ones are super hard to find and you don't strictly need them, don't worry.
Do you keep mothers, or house plants, in soil? Yes, hydroton works very much in your favor. I suspect tey CAN pupate in rr plugs; however, you're not going to have as much trouble as you would with the same basic environment running soil/coco/promix.
What is your flood depth, maximum, as compared to the surface of the medium? Does it come right up to the surface or do you flood to about 1-2" below the surface? If so, what I would do in your situation is hit the HT surface with some pyrethrin just to be safe, but bombing seems to be the best dfense against the little shits.

 

[cellardweller]

sucks to hear about them pesties access. My worst problem has been fungus gnats and I tolerate em with stickies and smashin every one I can smush..I would hate to get chemicals though and I think/hope that your predators get the job done. Thats a great question about the hydroton though. If they are in the water, are they just living off the nutrients and able to breathe in the surface film? Or are they on the hydroton and living off the nutes in the moisture? Wheres Core? I bet he could answer this..

Anyway, I finished up what I had to do and am feeling not so down. I as able to do some simple things around the house and make some budder and take some pics.
This is the Sterling Widow that is on seedbay now from nuggetshiner. Outstanding bud! Very widow-y in flavor with a musky fruity undertone. very stony as well. I still have to cure it for awhile though..


CD x LT



kali


airin em out



makin hash


even better, budder!



Thanks again for all of your support guys! you have made a tough time just that much easier. to each and every one of you!
And a big to Mother Nature for blessing us with a common bond!
peace,
~cellard

EDIT: oops forgot one..

 

[stinkyattic]

I don't believe that any life stage besides the larvae feeds at all; the larvae are the ones that cause damage to the leaves. Another thing I forgot to mention is that silicates help slow down rasping insects by thickening cell walls, and SMC or neem will protect the damaged plant from moisture loss.

Sorry to drift off topic, you gotta smack me and tell me to hush up lol... Fucking thrips... I hate them SO MUCH!!!!

 

[Tonatiuh]

nice c-dubb good to see ya enjoyin the work again...nice pics Mm and kal...
gl with them thrips access...see i told ya more experienced peeps would definetly be in the F.A.M.

heres a few pics so i can "put on for my city" right quick...

....i put on.....i put on....






















peace fam oh and this is for all the haters....\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

 

[UBER21]

HAhahaha.......digging that shirt mang....

 

[accessndx]

Blue ones are super hard to find and you don't strictly need them, don't worry.
Do you keep mothers, or house plants, in soil? Yes, hydroton works very much in your favor. I suspect tey CAN pupate in rr plugs; however, you're not going to have as much trouble as you would with the same basic environment running soil/coco/promix.
What is your flood depth, maximum, as compared to the surface of the medium? Does it come right up to the surface or do you flood to about 1-2" below the surface? If so, what I would do in your situation is hit the HT surface with some pyrethrin just to be safe, but bombing seems to be the best dfense against the little shits.

I abandoned soil a long time ago. Pests was one of the significant reasons as well as waste/recycling considerations. I would say that the water flows into the table to a level of approximately 3-4 inches before it drains. Timers are set to flood the tables 4-6 times a day (depending on temperature and necessity). I don't use rockwool or anything except straight hydroton with a liquid solution of nutrients.
My one exception is that I have recently used coco to start some new beans. I would natually assume that was the origin of the infestation, but the plants in the coco are unaffected and isolated. It's primarily my Mom/Veg area which is an "Emily's garden". Immediately next to that is an Ez-Cloner with clones (of course).
The only other thing I can think of is that my wife has been asking me to "smoke outside" so that she doesn't get a contact high....she's getting drug tested shortly for work....
So I've kindly walked outside onto a balcony on which there are some plants I don't pay attention to....just some things she had grown in the past: basil, parsley, etc.
That may be possible contaminant because after roasting a big joint or bowl, I like to come inside and check out my gals.....could be sloppy on my part.
The other potential source of contamination is what I had indicated before; seeing my friend's outdoor up close and personal.....
I could have gotten a few buggers on my clothes and not been as dilligent about tracking stuff back with me.
I'm not afraid to use chemicals....but I am reluctant to use them so close to the end of flowering.....especially when my gals are all saturated with crystals....
I can imagine those plants soaking up a good portion of those chemicals...and then me smoking it later....not a good thought.
That's one of the reasons I began to grow initially: who knows what kind of crapola people put on their 'mersh?
I know what I grow.
Hopefully those biological predators can keep things in check. Last night I removed each and every plant that I could feasibly spray (MOMS, RECENTLY FLOWERING PLANTS)....and hosed them down with safer soap. That will give me a leg up until I get those other bugs moving. The ladybugs I'll use for cleanup...they're good to keep hibernating in the fridge until I need them...
I'm contemplating using waves of bugs as I specified earlier until I get can things back to normal.
When I've completed flowering the last few gals I put in (that will be Dec.), I'll use more heavy duty chemicals to kick things back to normal if the infestation is not under control by then.

 

[johnipedestran]

did you get that shirt in Philadelphia or Baltimore? Those are the two biggest stop snitching towns around.

peace
jip

 

[asher1er]

nice pics everyone! cd, glad to see you doing allright over there

speaking of shirts while lookin for new gear i came across this

think it's a heat up or what?

 

[johnipedestran]

ash
i don't think so, but i have often thought about that, i have seen young girls in the city wearing I Grow Dank, or stuff like that

what if I rolled with one of those shirts?

peace
jip

 

[MOneYMiKe]

did you get that shirt in Philadelphia or Baltimore? Those are the two biggest stop snitching towns around.

peace
jip

LMAO.................................."stop snitchin"MOneY

 

[cocktail frank]

i have the monterey too access.
got the job done.
i think gnatrol worked too on them.
its been awhile and i forget.
all i kno is i havent seen any crawlers in a while.

 

[BaBaBooeyVT]

yea franks right i had them to and i used MONTEREY GARDEN INSECT SPRAY and it kill them dead in one shot havnt seen them for 3 months

 

[accessndx]

That's why I love the F.A.M.I.L.Y.....you people rock!!! Makes me feel alot more secure going after these bastards with all your input...
Now if I can only figure out WHERE they had come from I'd feel even better.

I'm starting to think that the prophylactic use of beneficial insects like ladybugs and things like capsaicin might not be a bad idea. Had I established a regimen of either, I doubt anything like this could have gotten a foothold. Anyway, I've gotta spread some rep. around before I can throw it at most of you....
But FTR you've got it all forthcoming. Peace out.

 

[thetokemaster]

homemade remedy

homemade remedy

If that monterey spray doesn't work I have a recipe I can find that does the job, all over the counter stuff. I had to use it once and it killed all trace of pests. I will caution you it seemed to knock all the crystals off the bud. But you can spray your grow area with it, and plants still 1 month away from harvest. I'll find the exact mix but it's lemon juice, epsom salts, cider vinegar, and some other stuff but it DID work.

 

[peterpan]

grape krush




f13









click on pics to make bigger

 

[kallenavndk]

Peterpan im glad you take time to come hear and post your happy thoughts tasty they are

 

[Chamez]

Amazing nugs everywhere as always. Moneymike, those nugs you posted a few pages back looked ridiculous. Kallen, same with those AK97 you posted. Hope they taste and smoke ass good as they look.

Maybe some pics later this morning if my roomate gets out of bed and I can get his camera. Have 5 plants left due to males and giving a few away, all 3 weeks into flower. The MK Ultra look amazing, its going to be top notch smoke in 45-55 days.

 

[kallenavndk]

Chamez they sure did
Here is some sunshine

 

[Tonatiuh]

beautiful shots kal thanks for the great pics for to match my wake and bake session yo...great start to the moning today...

thanks for the gift B.R.O.(you know you much appreciated...

peace