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That isn't the logic used for the animal rights case. The fact that you can meet all your dietary requirements by eating only vegetables is a supporting reason to go vegan though.
Intelligence isn't much of a criteria for deciding which animals we should eat or kill humanely. I'm sure most dolphins are smarter than Terry Schiavo was when she was a vegetable, yet no one considered eating her. Infants aren't rational either. Yet we don't eat them either. Arguing that we don't eat humans because they're members of our own species is a pretty poor argument.
Saying humans have some sort of 'intrinsic value' because we're humans, and animals don't have that same value, doesn't hold much water. That's like saying white people are better than black people because they're white. Philosophy dubs it 'speciesism.'
Philosophy isn't always practical. It's not always natural. It can't always be readily applied.
demonicaardvark
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nice straw man argument. btw its "responsibility," your false arguments combined with 3rd grade spelling errors is a text equivalent to a shit and piss sandwich.
this thread is painful... japan freak, we get it, you are an idiot. no need to post 10000 times in one thread to get your point across.
We get it you have nothing to offer but insults. Am I the only one high in here? lol, now the grammar police are coming out.
demonicaardvark
Member
no, i have a lot more to offer than insults. thats just all i offer to loud-mouthed fools like yourself.
No you don't.
demonicaardvark
Member
if all else fails just come up with a few more lies. as long as you get the last word in, right? that will make you look better.
Dude my wife is in the shower and dinner is on the stove, I got free time, I'd rather fill that free time with some intelligent or humorous conversation.
Somebody mentioned something about Japan being deforested or something earlier in the thread, turns out Japan has more forests by % than America. Either way both don't have a lot.
Somebody mentioned something about Japan being deforested or something earlier in the thread, turns out Japan has more forests by % than America. Either way both don't have a lot.
demonicaardvark
Member
who gives a fuck. this thread is about stupid animal rights assholes and how much of a moron you are.
I give a fuck. Like many conversations threads can go in many directions, pretty natural for animal rights people to start bringing up fur, meat and nazis.
Panoramical
Member
Hmmm.... not sure we (Allies) can justify bombing Japan, just because JF has different views to the rest of us.
War, imo, is never justified.
"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent" - Isaac Asimov
FYI - I have received intelligence saying he's not Japanese. And is just and American residing there.
Agreed. I'm curious, from an educational perspective, how ketamine fits in here?
What you've high-lighted is important. Intelligence shouldn't provide an immunity. Maybe people are under this impression because in society today, people we deem as intelligent are favoured (in school, work, politics etc).
Until you shared your thoughts, I would have been tempted to use the intelligence argument against people like JF, now I will not. Thank you for the enlightenment.
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elmanito
I thought this thread was about releasing mink instead of if you do eat meat or not.Well i stopped eating red meat and i just feel fine with it.With pork the same.Yesterday there was an article on the internet that 60% of the slaughterhouses was contaminated with the MRSA-bacteria, so the risk is high that your meat is contaminated.
Perhaps some will say that organic meat is the answer but the problem is that the organic grown animals are slaughtered in the same slaughterhouse.
Back to the topic releasing mink into the wild is a fool thing to do.Those animals don't know how to survive in the wild, so they will die of hunger.What's cruelty about that.
Do we need fur.No there are better alternatives like Alpaca coats to keep you warm.
Namaste
Perhaps some will say that organic meat is the answer but the problem is that the organic grown animals are slaughtered in the same slaughterhouse.
Back to the topic releasing mink into the wild is a fool thing to do.Those animals don't know how to survive in the wild, so they will die of hunger.What's cruelty about that.
Do we need fur.No there are better alternatives like Alpaca coats to keep you warm.
Namaste
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straintester
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What a landslide this thread turned out to be.
I'm not vegetarian but love life and all living things.
We do have a food chain but just because we are at the top of it doesn't mean we have to use unnecessary torture to feed ourselves. There's supposed to be a natural balance of this food chain but humans have a way of interacting with nature and stripping her of everything for their own selfish greed.
It can be truly disgusting behaviour and most people that do this , know it but just don't care.
It seems like modern tehnology has surpassed our moral compass.
Some of us are more evolved than others but unfortunately we HAVE to share the same planet
I'm not vegetarian but love life and all living things.
We do have a food chain but just because we are at the top of it doesn't mean we have to use unnecessary torture to feed ourselves. There's supposed to be a natural balance of this food chain but humans have a way of interacting with nature and stripping her of everything for their own selfish greed.
It can be truly disgusting behaviour and most people that do this , know it but just don't care.
It seems like modern tehnology has surpassed our moral compass.
Some of us are more evolved than others but unfortunately we HAVE to share the same planet
It just dawned on me that the word "Nazi" sounds like "Not See" so in other words a nazi can'not see'
Damn I didnt know they slaughter organic meat in the same slaughter house as the regy meat, thats not organic, atleast not imo
Just glad i dont have to worry about meat giving me a cancer, that is just a chance not worth taking. Some one offered me steak the other day and I had to tell them "No I can't sir" in other words "No I don't want can't sir, I mean cancer"
Especially when cattle are on the cattle'list I mean are the catylist
for causing mad cancers. As for the mink its sucks on both sides of the fence, come on 2012!
All life is preicous from the snail to the whale and who are we to say which one should be eaten and shouldn't be? I'm really not understanding the attacking of one person because he doesn't act or think like you do.. Perhaps this is not the way he was brought up but hurdling insults at him is no way to make him understand your ideas or perspective as a matter of a fact it's quit childish and highshool like.. If you want someone to understand you then just say what you mean without all the insults about where they come from what does that have to do with anything?? peace out Headband707
i will eat just about anything you put on my plate. nothing is sacred.except for veal. once i got to see them in their tiny stalls with big sad eyes that was it for me . havent had veal for 15 years or so
I'm a Level 5 Vegan.
I don't eat anything that casts a shadow.
I don't eat anything that casts a shadow.
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Cookie monster
Vegans are just mad people who think they can make decent ice cream out of tofu....
lol, tofutti ice cream is good though foreal.
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elmanito
I rather would like to have this
Namaste
Namaste
