E.T. evidence thread

[Crazy Composer]

The fact that you believe there's no proof of aliens visiting earth is evidence that you haven't looked into it deeply enough. Look into it for REAL and then say that.

I don't mind this kind of conversation at all, because it's respectful... but the many disrespectful posts are not appreciated. Any disrespect is unnecessary.

 

[trouble]

Sound far fetched? Milton Cooper, a Naval Intelligence Officer tells us that not only does the Alien Moon Base exist but the U.S. Naval Intelligence Community refers to the Alien Moon Base as "Luna," that there is a huge mining operation going on there, and that is where the aliens keep their huge mother ships while the trips to Earth are made in smaller "flying saucers".
The Alien base on the far side of the Moon. It was seen and filmed by the Apollo astronauts. A base, a mining operation using very large machines, and the very large alien craft described in sighting reports as mother ships exist there.

Milton Coopers claim of an Alien Moon Base & Mining operation is comical at best, however, what I find even more amusing is people that believe anything they read on the internet.

When it comes to Aliens many people are gullible and tend to believe what they want to believe. Particularly in the US where many people have become very paranoid about the government, and not without some legitimate reasons I might add, however, many have crossed the line into ridiculous, insane, and irrational behavior.

It's amazing how some people embrace a strange epistermology and hang on every word of a Milton Cooper, Charles Manson, Hitler, and other mentally challenged individuals, instead of listening to sane, rational, well-informed reason.

When a paranoid megalomanic like Milton Cooper taps into ones own paranoia he becomes a prophet of sorts to them. Also, the world is full of people looking for quick answers who reason simplistically, if at all, and are born "followers" looking for a charismatic leader, hence cults arise (CSETI), often masked in noble-sounding causes of rhetoric.

BTW, In later years Milton Cooper re-canted his Alien-oriented beliefs, asserting that they were in fact a part of the Illuminati plot to subjugate the United States. LOL!

When Cooper became bored with Alien Conspiracies stories and declared that there were indeed NO ALIENS (evil or otherwise) but, plenty of evil government people. He went from writing about Alien Conspiracies such as, (Alien moon bases & mining operations, and Aliens & Illuminati's controlling the illegal drug trade) to writing about evil government conspiracy theories appealling to any of his followers with $9.99 to buy one of his books.


Best of luck on your search!






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[sirgrassalot]

When Cooper became bored with Alien Conspiracies stories and declared that there were indeed NO ALIENS (evil or otherwise) but, plenty of evil government people. He went from writing about Alien Conspiracies such as, (Alien moon bases & mining operations, and Aliens & Illuminati's controlling the illegal drug trade) to writing about evil government conspiracy theories that appealed to any moron follower of his with $9.99 to buy one of his books.


Best of luck on your search!

So there's no Lunatics mining the moon base Luna, they're all here.

 

[trouble]

you are obviously not aware of the fields of Astrobiology....the NASA Astrobiology Institutes top scientists use physics, chemistry, astronomy, biology, molecular biology, ecology, planetary science and geology to investigate the possibility of life on other worlds.

I'm fully aware of Astrobiology.

I'm also familiar with what David Morrison the senior scientist at the NASA Astrobiology Institute said about UFO's & the possibility of life on other planets:

"There are many cases of unidenified lights in the sky, however, there is NO evidence that these lights are spaceships from beyond earth."


"Many Astrobioligist feel it's likely that life forms may exist on other planets given the millions of earth-like planets out there, although we have NO detections of life on other worlds."


"There is NO evidence to support the idea that Extraterrestrial Beings exist. Untill such evidence is found, you wont find scientists supporting these claims."

David Morrison
NASA Senior Scientist




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[Crazy Composer]

Ha! NASA is the number one spreader of false info on the topic... it's their job. It's all in who you believe, crazy-looking people with no reason to lie, or suits with every reason to lie. I choose to refuse the suits in most cases.

 

[sparkjumper]

Good intelligent sounding posts there trouble,to the point and not filled with emotion.Much more than I can say about the two posts preceding mine filled with the ever present conspiracy theories and non-sense.If you dont agree with my view there's a conspiracy afoot lol.I'm glad I was able to indulge in MJ multiple decades and still have a clear thinking head.Its obvious thats not the case with everyone unfortunately

 

[Mr. Freeman]

Yo trouble, I applaud you for biting your left nut and no name calling on your behalf.

I am open to the idea that not everything presented may be real. I like to hear every side of the story. Unlike you. Its much easier to live in the world you are presented with by the powers that be, you are programmed into it and you can't even see it. Those that see through those lies have a better chance of making it.

Now can you please look at the disclosure projects and comment on that. You tell me, why would all of these men lie. Notice, the "nonprofit".

You can at least admit the possiblity of ufo's...

http://www.disclosureproject.org/

The Disclosure Project is a nonprofit research project working to fully disclose the facts about UFOs, extraterrestrial intelligence, and classified advanced energy and propulsion systems. We have over 400 government, military, and intelligence community witnesses testifying to their direct, personal, first hand experience with UFOs, ETs, ET technology, and the cover-up that keeps this information secret.

On Wednesday, May 9th, 2001, over twenty military, intelligence, government, corporate and scientific witnesses came forward at the National Press Club in Washington, DC to establish the reality of UFOs or extraterrestrial vehicles, extraterrestrial life forms, and resulting advanced energy and propulsion technologies. The weight of this first-hand testimony, along with supporting government documentation and other evidence, will establish without any doubt the reality of these phenomena.





Peace

 

[T.Baggins]

Milton Coopers claim of an Alien Moon Base & Mining operation is comical at best, however, what I find even more amusing is people that believe anything they read on the internet.

When it comes to Aliens many people are gullible and tend to believe what they want to believe. Particularly in the US where many people have become very paranoid about the government, and not without some legitimate reasons I might add, however, many have crossed the line into ridiculous, insane, and irrational behavior.

It's amazing how some people embrace a strange epistermology and hang on every word of a Milton Cooper, Charles Manson, Hitler, and other mentally challenged individuals, instead of listening to sane, rational, well-informed reason.

When a paranoid megalomanic like Milton Cooper taps into ones own paranoia he becomes a prophet of sorts to them. Also, the world is full of people looking for quick answers who reason simplistically, if at all, and are born "followers" looking for a charismatic leader, hence cults arise (CSETI), often masked in noble-sounding causes of rhetoric.

BTW, In later years Milton Cooper re-canted his Alien-oriented beliefs, asserting that they were in fact a part of the Illuminati plot to subjugate the United States. LOL!

When Cooper became bored with Alien Conspiracies stories and declared that there were indeed NO ALIENS (evil or otherwise) but, plenty of evil government people. He went from writing about Alien Conspiracies such as, (Alien moon bases & mining operations, and Aliens & Illuminati's controlling the illegal drug trade) to writing about evil government conspiracy theories appealling to any of his followers with $9.99 to buy one of his books.


Best of luck on your search!






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kinda outlandish for you to come on here and try to run cooper through the mud.. and to compare him to Hitler or Manson is absolutely ridiculous. the man was a true freedom fighter till the end, when Apache County Sheriff's Office lured him from his house by posing as civilians shot him 5 times in the back and once in the head killing him.
Milton William Cooper was 58 years old.
i encourage all to learn about him and what he fought for
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper
he did more with his life than most ever will, I'm sure of that.

true he did change his focus on thing in his later years when he discovered the MAJESTYTWELVE document http://www.sherryshriner.com/cooper/majestic_12.htm
and he kinda threw out the baby with the bath water water...

i doubt you knew the word astrobiology before i said it or you wouldnt have made your earlier post.... I'm glad Mr Morrison admits to unidentified flying objects and lights in the sky... and that the consensus is that their is likely life on other planets... but i wouldn't expect full disclosure from NASA either... not yet anyway.. Dr. Farouk El Baz, one of NASA's foremost scientists, admits 'not every discovery has been announced'." ...btw, I'm also sure that most of the government scientists will tell you how much more dangerous marijuana is than cigarettes too, does that make it true.. but i dont care to convert you or persuade you... just to get the truth out so,

here's some more astronaut accounts
Mercury 9 and Gemini 5 astronaut Gorgen Coooer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc
Major Gordon Cooper also testified before the United Nations:

"I believe that these extra-terrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet from other planets... Most astronauts were reluctant to discuss UFOs."
"I did have occasion in 1951 to have two days of observation of many flights of them, of different sizes, flying in fighter formation, generally from east to west over Europe."

"For many years I have lived with a secret, in a secrecy imposed on all specialists in astronautics. I can now reveal that every day, in the USA, our radar instruments capture objects of form and composition unknown to us. And there are thousands of witness reports and a quantity of documents to prove this, but nobody wants to make them public.
Why? Because authority is afraid that people may think of God knows what kind of horrible invaders. So the password still is: We have to avoid panic by all means."

"I was furthermore a witness to an extraordinary phenomenon, here on this planet Earth. It happened a few months ago in Florida. There I saw with my own eyes a defined area of ground being consumed by flames, with four indentions left by a flying object which had descended in the middle of a field. Beings had left the craft (there were other traces to prove this). They seemed to have studied topography, they had collected soil samples and, eventually, they returned to where they had come from, disappearing at enormous speed...I happen to know that authority did just about everything to keep this incident from the press and TV, in fear of a panicky reaction from the public.

In June 1965, astronauts Ed White (first American to walk in space) and James McDivitt were passing over Hawaii in a Gemini spacecraft when they saw a "weird-looking metallic object." The UFO had long arms sticking out of it. McDivitt took pictures with a cine-camera. Those pictures have never been released.

In December 1965, Gemini astronauts James Lovell and Frank Borman also saw a UFO during their second orbit of their record-breaking 14 day flight. Borman reported that he saw an "unidentified spacecraft some distance from their capsule." Gemini Control, at Cape Kennedy told him that he was seeing the final stage of their own Titan booster rocket. Borman confirmed that he could see the booster rocket all right, but that he could also see something completely different.

During James Lovell's flight on Gemini 7:

Lovell: BOGEY AT 10 O'CLOCK HIGH.

Capcom: This is Houston. Say again 7.

Lovell: SAID WE HAVE A BOGEY AT 10 O'CLOCK HIGH.

Capcom: Gemini 7, is that the booster or is that an actual sighting? Lovell: WE HAVE SEVERAL...ACTUAL SIGHTING.

Capcom: ...Estimated distance or size?

Lovell: WE ALSO HAVE THE BOOSTER IN SIGHT...



Donald Slayton a Mercury astronaut revealed in an interview he had seen UFOs in 1951:


"I was testing a P-51 fighter in Minneapolis when I spotted this object. I was at about 10,000 feet on a nice, bright, sunny afternoon. I thought the object was a kite, then I realized that no kite is gonna fly that high."
As I got closer it looked like a weather balloon, gray and about three feet in diameter. But as soon as I got behind the darn thing it didn't look like a balloon anymore. It looked like a saucer, a disk.

About the same time, I realized that it was suddenly going away from me -- and there I was, running at about 300 miles per hour. I tracked it for a little way, and then all of a sudden the damn thing just took off. It pulled about a 45 degree climbing turn and accelerated and just flat disappeared."


On July 17, 1962 Major Robert White reported a UFO during his fifty-eight-mile high flight of an X-15. Major White reported:


"I have no idea what it could be. It was grayish in color and about thrity to forty feet away."
Then according to a Time Magazine article, Major White exclaimed over the radio:


"There ARE things out there! There absolutely is!"


On May 11, 1962 NASA pilot Joseph Walker said that one of his tasks was to detect UFOs during his X-15 flights. He had filmed five or six UFOs during his record breaking fifty-mile-high flight in April, 1962. It was the second time he had filmed UFOs in flight. During a lecture at the Second National Conference on the Peaceful Uses of Space Research in Seattle, Washigton he said:


"I don't feel like speculating about them. All I know is what appeared on the film which was developed after the flight." - Joseph Walker
To date none of those films has been released to the public for viewing.

Eugene Cernan was commander of Apollo 17. In a Los Angeles Times article in 1973 he said, about UFOs:


"...I've been asked (about UFOs) and I've said publicly I thought they (UFOs) were somebody else, some other civilization."


In 1979 Maurice Chatelain, former chief of NASA Communications Systems confirmed that Armstrong had indeed reported seeing two UFOs on the rim of a crater. Chatelain believes that some UFOs may come from our own solar system -- specifically Titan.


"The encounter was common knowledge in NASA, but nobody has talked about it until now."
"...all Apollo and Gemini flights were followed, both at a distance and sometimes also quite closely, by space vehicles of extraterrestrial origin - flying saucers, or UFOs, if you want to call them by that name. Every time it occurred, the astronauts informed Mission Control, who then ordered absolute silence."

"I think that Walter Schirra aboard Mercury 8 was the first of the astronauts to use the code name 'Santa Claus' to indicate the presence of flying saucers next to space capsules. However, his announcements were barely noticed by the general public. It was a little different when James Lovell on board the Apollo 8 command module came out from behind the moon and said for everybody to hear: 'PLEASE BE INFORMED THAT THERE IS A SANTA CLAUS.' Even though this happened on Christmas Day 1968, many people sensed a hidden meaning in those words."

The rumors persist. NASA may well be a civilian agency, but many of its programs are funded by the defence budget and most of the astronauts are subject to military security regulations. Apart from the fact that the National Security Agency screens all films and probably radio communications as well. We have the statements by Otto Binder, Dr. Garry Henderson and Maurice Chatelain that the astronauts were under strict orders not to discuss their sightings. And Gordon Cooper has testified to a United Nations committee that one of the astronauts actually witnessed a UFO on the ground. If there is no secrecy, why has this sighting not been made public?


NASA's Scott Carpenter

"At no time, when the astronauts were in space were they alone: there was a constant surveillance by UFOs."

 

[T.Baggins]

they're doing some UFO stuff on history channel right now...iv noticed the Alien UFO topic is increasingly receiving more main stream news media attention..

Japanese UFO and ET
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTUzWZwo3K8

 

[sirgrassalot]

New NASA photos show Apollo leftovers

New NASA photos show Apollo leftovers

I'm giving the Pleiadians LoL fair notice we're taking back our moon, now off with yah & the lunatics you have mining the dark side. You can run but you can't hide.

Like the footprints of a samsquanch.

WASHINGTON (AP) — First-ever NASA photos of the moon show the leftovers from man’s exploration 40 years ago.

The photos from space pinpoint equipment left behind from Apollo landings, and even the well-worn tracks made by astronauts on the moon surface. They were released Friday, in time for the 40th anniversary of the first moon landing on July 20, 1969.

The images are from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, which was launched last month and now circles the moon in search of future landing sites. A photo of the Apollo 11 site shows the Eagle lunar module used by Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin.

“It was really great to see the hardware sitting on the surface, waiting for us to come back,” said Arizona State University scientist Mark Robinson, who runs the camera on the orbiter. “You could actually see the descent module sitting on the surface.”

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Science/2009/07/17/10173361-ap.html

NASA
http://www.nasa.gov/missions/solarsystem/f_leftovers.htmll

One good photo of an extraterrestrial craft anyone, that's all I ask....Nothing eH just a bunch of who shot John & some very vivid imaginations. Including a few book deals for the gullible to purchase.

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

regarding nasa and astrobiology and aliens, well, who assumed that aliens have biological organisms to begin with?

paz

 

[ksac]

Anecdotal evidence and blurry pictures is not good enough to say that extraterrestrials exist. Where is the physical evidence? How can you be so sure about something without any verifiable scientific evidence?

 

[MarquisBlack]

Everyone's a scientist these days...

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance."

 

[sparkjumper]

No the height of ignorance if many people so thoroughly convinced of the validity of a subject without there being any evidence to back that subject up whatsoever.And its even more ignorant that so many would attempt to change someones view on the subject.I happen to believe there is life in the universe and in our own solar system.I believe we have undoubtly been visited at times throughout history.But I wouldnt consider myself to be a part of you band of idiots that insist if others dont agree with our view,they themselves are some kind of morons.Shame on you supposed oprn-minded people.

 

[T.Baggins]

Edger Mitchell
an American pilot and astronaut. As the lunar module pilot of Apollo 14, he spent nine hours working on the lunar surface in the Fra Mauro Highlands region, making him the sixth man to walk on the Moon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Mitchell

what does he say
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhNd...orum/thread483277/pg2&feature=player_embedded

 

[sirgrassalot]

Edger Mitchell
an American pilot and astronaut. As the lunar module pilot of Apollo 14, he spent nine hours working on the lunar surface in the Fra Mauro Highlands region, making him the sixth man to walk on the Moon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Mitchell

what does he say
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhNd...orum/thread483277/pg2&feature=player_embedded

We've discussed this lunatic already. LoL


Mitchell's interests include consciousness and paranormal phenomena. During the Apollo 14 flight he conducted private ESP experiments with his friends on Earth.[2] In early 1973, he founded the nonprofit Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) to conduct and sponsor research into areas that mainstream science has found unproductive, including consciousness research and psychic events.

[edit] Remote healing

Mitchell says that a teenage remote healer who lives in Vancouver and uses the pseudonym Adam Dreamhealer helped him heal of kidney cancer at a distance. Mitchell said that while he never had a biopsy (the definitive test for cancer), "I had a sonogram and MRI that was consistent with renal carcinoma." Adam worked (distantly) on Mitchell from December of 2003 until June of 2004, when the "irregularity was gone and we haven't seen it since".[3]


Books

* The Way of the Explorer: An Apollo Astronaut's Journey Through the Material and Mystical Worlds (1996), G. Putnam & Sons, hardcover, ISBN 0-399-14161-8, 2008 paperback edition: ISBN 1-56414977-3, audio cassette edition: ISBN 1-57270-019-X
* Psychic Exploration: A Challenge for Science (1974), G. Putnam & Sons, ISBN 0-399-11342-8

 

[T.Baggins]

oh sorry, i forgot...its only when your in agreement with our government will you be considered "respected" around here... how many times have you been to space??
why would he say these things if he didn't believe they were true? It is easy to say that these folks are nuts or just seeking attention, but the ridicule and personal attacks that happen to them can't be worth it to the individual who speaks out on the issue.
They risk jobs, careers, reputations and the support of friends and families sometimes.
why to sell a book?
Why go to that much effort and bs if they don't believe what they are saying?
I don't see an upside it

 

[trouble]

kinda outlandish for you to come on here and try to run cooper through the mud.. and to compare him to Hitler or Manson is absolutely ridiculous.

Milton Cooper did an outstanding job of running himself through the mud. Theres nothing I can say about the man that would make look more foolish than his own claims.

What I find more outlandish than Coopers claims is how anyone could read one of his books and come away a "Believer". Most of Coopers readers apparently have neither the intellect nor sense to understand that they are being spoon-fed a bunch of confadulation by a mentally-ill con-man. The same people that believe that the Jews kill and eat Christian babies. I find it a truely stunning indictment on our educational system.

Here are a few of my favorite Milton Cooper threories in his own words, not mine, that can be found in his many books of rubbish:

"Aliens are not only here but, have been here for a long time. The Aliens have a standing treaty with the United States Government, in which the United States trades human citizens to the Aliens to use as food and guinea pigs, in exchange for technology."

"JKF was assassinated because he discovered the Aliens were behind the illegal drug trade in America. A grand conspiracy by a cable of government elitist comprised of the Bilderberg Group, Illuminati, and both Gray & Reptilian Aliens"

"The movies "Close Incounters of the Third Kind" & "ET" are both LIGHTLY FICTIONALIZED versions of true events that really occured."

"The Russians and USA both have had basses on Mars and the Moon for decades, to cull the best scientific brains by kidnaping and relocating them to these bases."

Need I continue?

It's obvious that Milton Coopers theories are the distillation of the fantasies of the extremely sick dysfunctional raving paranoiacs found on your average mental ward.

the man was a true freedom fighter till the end,

Milton Cooper was no more a "Freedom Fighter" than the "Partridge Family" was a real rock band.

Milton Cooper was nothing more than a sick psychotic con-man, whos delusional beliefs attracted a group of psychotics followers like a porch lamp attacts moths. Who used Aliens as a way of validating their own personal war on reality.





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[T.Baggins]

the truth is stranger than fiction....

 

[MarquisBlack]

No the height of ignorance if many people so thoroughly convinced of the validity of a subject without there being any evidence to back that subject up whatsoever.

There absolutely IS evidence, but it's open to interpretation.

And its even more ignorant that so many would attempt to change someones view on the subject.

Isn't that what you and your lot have been doing? And much more aggressively than the "believers". Me, I'm not on either side. I just respond to hostility.

Trouble, William Cooper was absolutely nuts. But that could have been a result of his actually being harassed/fed misinformation by Government Agents. I don't pretend to know, but one thing is for sure, he predicted that NASA would allow Galileo to impact Jupiter. That's enough to make me pay attention.