this should be a sticky... to many people don't know you can clone a fully mature ready to harvest bud.
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Don't lose Good Genetics!! Clone your Bud.
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bambi
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question is why wouldn't one take a cutting ?
What I eventually learnt in past experience was to find the best clones/plants id have to start using the breeders magic number of = 6 clones or cuttings I must take from different branch sites if I wanted to find any different phenotype plants such as the indica or sativa pheno's I might get out of a skunk or some indica's finding the sativa and so on,
If I don't take 6 cuttings and say ive only got the one clone to work with then not all is lost, yet it will mean a lot more work from growing out many many dozens of clones taken from the one mum clone I took to start with to find these other phenotypes wanted for there traits whatever they might be,
sometimes the clone we choose can or will be a better looking and tasting plant than the seed plant on its own, yea very important the clones and must be questioned now n then if ya unaware of all this clone business,
Times ive failed at reveging a plant were to do with the plant not having much leaf left around the lower portions of a plant and in conjunction using a HPS light to revege, they much prefer the sun, led or Metal halide to get off to a good start etc.
What I eventually learnt in past experience was to find the best clones/plants id have to start using the breeders magic number of = 6 clones or cuttings I must take from different branch sites if I wanted to find any different phenotype plants such as the indica or sativa pheno's I might get out of a skunk or some indica's finding the sativa and so on,
If I don't take 6 cuttings and say ive only got the one clone to work with then not all is lost, yet it will mean a lot more work from growing out many many dozens of clones taken from the one mum clone I took to start with to find these other phenotypes wanted for there traits whatever they might be,
sometimes the clone we choose can or will be a better looking and tasting plant than the seed plant on its own, yea very important the clones and must be questioned now n then if ya unaware of all this clone business,
Times ive failed at reveging a plant were to do with the plant not having much leaf left around the lower portions of a plant and in conjunction using a HPS light to revege, they much prefer the sun, led or Metal halide to get off to a good start etc.
These clones have been under 20/4 T5 lighting for 3 weeks.
Very strange leaf growth, smooth edges?
That's normal. Cut away all of the straggly stuff early and make it clean. Let it concentrate on a few branches. It'll be vegging normally in a week or two from that point.
Thanks for that info...their in a race with 30 seeds
People without separate vegging and flowering areas who find genetics they want to re-run instead of starting from scratch each time. Could also be handy if something wipes out a veg room and genetics have to be saved.
St. Phatty
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I remember the first time I cloned.
I cloned a cannabis leaf. It rooted. So I had a fvcking leaf rooted, just sticking up.
I cloned a cannabis leaf. It rooted. So I had a fvcking leaf rooted, just sticking up.
If you love your mom stable the way it is make sure to get cuts to a few people you know you can trust in case of emergencies.
I have been able to return some cuts and receive some back in return. Many actually.
After a door gets kicked in; a few I have known regret being so stingy.
My .02 for what its worth.
I have been able to return some cuts and receive some back in return. Many actually.
After a door gets kicked in; a few I have known regret being so stingy.
My .02 for what its worth.
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Hey everyone,
A very interesting and informative thread,
Thanks
GA
A very interesting and informative thread,
Thanks
GA
Are you saying that you will get different phenotypes by taking cuttings from different parts of the same mother plant?
I would respectfully beg to differ, if so. The genetics will be identical. Clones from different parts of the plant may root at different speeds and the early veg plant may vary somewhat in things such as branchiness, but the eventual mature plant and flowers will be the same.
I wonder about genetic drift. I have kept a sfv og for over ten years and it is the same as she was when I got it.
alright mate, not saying ya wrong cos I've never heard of this before. but just wondering how does that work?
J
johndoe123
I have heard the same thing I belive it was brought up by sam the skunkman and dj short....
Shanti at MNS says the same. Honestly, I don't quite understand the bio/genetic process going on there, but I've quite a few very knowledgeable people say it is so.
I don’t think putting mother plants in sunlight really has anything to do with the genetics, it just more or less revitalizes the plant, makes it stronger and less prone to other factors that may affect its health like bugs and/or pathogens.
I just had a mother turn south on me and I tried everything to save her. I noticed a few spider mites and eradicated them but soon after branches started to wilt and die and it progressed, the whole plant finally succumbed. I’m thinking it may have got a virus or something. Fortunately I had a cut of that plant in the field so I gathered a few cuts. It had already started to flower but I’m pretty confident they’ll take.
I have another plant that was started as a germ test of some seeds I made. I had them outside in a secluded place and forgot about them. They went into flower very, very early and one of them stunk to high heaven. So I took a couple cuts of her to try and root (which they have) and hit a few branches of the original plant with some pollen I had. I’m kind of curious to see what comes out of this one.
I just had a mother turn south on me and I tried everything to save her. I noticed a few spider mites and eradicated them but soon after branches started to wilt and die and it progressed, the whole plant finally succumbed. I’m thinking it may have got a virus or something. Fortunately I had a cut of that plant in the field so I gathered a few cuts. It had already started to flower but I’m pretty confident they’ll take.
I have another plant that was started as a germ test of some seeds I made. I had them outside in a secluded place and forgot about them. They went into flower very, very early and one of them stunk to high heaven. So I took a couple cuts of her to try and root (which they have) and hit a few branches of the original plant with some pollen I had. I’m kind of curious to see what comes out of this one.
That makes sense. I don't tend to think about that aspect because I don't keep mothers, I just take cuts from keepers going into 12/12, root them and, repeat and rinse, so to say.
I did use mama bushes years ago, and yeh, they got really kind of f'ed up after a long run.
My friends up in the 707 or Humboldt area for the those outside California swear by revitalizing their cuts in the sun, though most couldn't tell you the science behind it. But it works for them.
I personally have never done it but I do restart moms evert 6 months or so or more if the mom looks slow or shows phantom deficiencys. So I trust their word and would do it to save a cut that my deceased bro gave me around 2000' or so. It is a prized sfv pheno that goes by bty in my area.
Maybe we can get lucky and SAM the skunk man will drop some knowledge on us to explain exactly how that is accomplished with the the time in the sun.
I personally have never done it but I do restart moms evert 6 months or so or more if the mom looks slow or shows phantom deficiencys. So I trust their word and would do it to save a cut that my deceased bro gave me around 2000' or so. It is a prized sfv pheno that goes by bty in my area.
Maybe we can get lucky and SAM the skunk man will drop some knowledge on us to explain exactly how that is accomplished with the the time in the sun.
It is an interesting question ... I'm guessing though, that, for many, if not most growers, taking a plant outside is not a option due to potential legal exposure.
