Don't lose Good Genetics!! Clone your Bud.

[foomar]

To be honest the light hours are a bit random over time , but if its mostly late flower clones in the bubbler i move it into the floweroom , and into the veg area if mostly from plants still vegging under 20/4.

Anecdotally , have had more luck with late flower clones if they root fast in 12/12 and then start a reveg after , esp males which often have a death wish cloned late.

After a month they all look the same whichever way.

Haveing good results useing just sea salt at 2g/litre , seawater is a nominal 35g/litre so its not that strong , expected a disaster but got masses of callous and a root explosion on some particularly old gnarly cuts off a year old mother and some standard stuff , better han plain water in comparison , but does not suit smaller cuts as well.

 

[unregistered190]

Great thread!

 

[floralheart]

Throw it under 24 hour light and pump it full of Nitrogen. What's the big secret?

 

[Mikenite69]

I usually always take my cuts when I flip my plants the first 3 weeks of flowering and I feel I always getting higher rates of clones surviving over taking them off vegging plants. The only difference they are a little slower at growing then when taking them in veg.

I have also cloned a bud before off a plant to see if it would and it worked perfectly fine. Great thread I am sure a lot of people don't try to do this. I always pinch the budlet off it once the clone is rooted also helps it to veg quicker.

 

[Seatown]

Fun topic. I'm in the process of trying to do the same to save a great cut of Nurse Jackie I stumbled across. Took 2 cuts from the bottom about 3 weeks back, and just now began seeing roots peeking out from the rockwool. Took a little longer than expected, but Im just happy to know she'll be around my garden a bit longer

 

[RoadRash]

The challenge escalates if you have to move.

Then it's a combination of gratitude to whoever you shared the genetics with, helping you re-assemble your plant family at the new spot.

Maybe combined with some very careful driving wearing very patriotic/ geeky looking clothes, shaved, with that "Proud Supporter of the Police Retirement League" bumper sticker ... with your plant family discretely hidden ... wherever.


Actually that's one of the reasons I want to learn to make S1 seeds, to preserve genetics for that rare case where I might be able to bring a clone.

 

[Ras Mason]

great thread but IMO the best way to not loose your genetics is by incrossing or F2'ing your clone. Find a male in the same pack that you found a female in..and actually do a seed run...Let the male pollinate your choice female..Voila those genetics for life..

Now people are gonna say well yes but you won't have the exact same plant..and I say you are right, but you have the opportunity now to find a better plant from your purchase from a pack of seeds and you have a back up of those genetics..I try and F2 every choice female I ever had...JUST my

peace
Chefboy

what about recessive and deleterious genes?

 

[Ras Mason]

here is a good example. I had forgotten to take a mother of my nebula 2.0 (pre-bx) the crusty baseball bat pheno.
heere she is and clones taken from her 10 days prior to harvest.

 

[Ras Mason]

Some very Wise and learned growers around here have once told me this: The best way to re-veg even a stubborn flowering plant is to have a pure homeo-bio-dynamic vegan diet for 6 months, then dilute urine with biophotonized water at 10 percent. Then perform the invocation of your holy guardian angel upon your solution and feed it to the plants while humming the vibration frequency of the sun.
i dare any motherfucker out here to accomplish this task.
I will reward with special genetics.
peace

 

[Hammerhead]

When I reveg witch isn't very often. I harvest most of the plant. I only leave on 1 branch to reveg. everything else is cut off. Is there much diff between cutting that branch off then waiting for it to root and reveg or just waiting for the branch to reveg.

 

[papaduc]

It depends on pot size etc etc obviously. If you're cutting back the rootball to the size of a seedcup and the branch is very small like a clone, then there's no difference. But I think - and I'm not sure because I've never tried it - that might be a more risky procedure in terms of the plant dying off completely.

One of the main reasons to take cuts from budding plants is because they take up no space in either the flower or veg room.

Another reason to take cuts from budding plants later than half way into flower is if for example you're doing a big seed run trying to find some keepers. Clones from budding plants stay in stasis for about 2 weeks. They stay the same size. You could do a seed run and take 2 cuts from 20 plants and by harvest time all 40 of those cuts would still be in a small box requiring no maintenance. By the time you know what if any keepers are there, the clones are just starting to reveg.

 

[Hammerhead]

I have taken cuts from flowering plants many times. These root pretty fast.. I have never taken cuts from plants that where ready to harvest. When I do reveg I do it like I mentioned never had an issue. If I know I will be doing a reveg I will leave a lower branch so there's not much stock left..I never flower these I let them finish the reveg then take cuts.. This is only done as last resort.That's good info though thanks for putting it up..

 

[papaduc]

No problem man.

I think the window between mid flower and harvest is the key point. A lot of people see good phenotypes after say week 5-6 and they think shit, never cloned it, and at that point they see revegging after harvest as their only option. People should know there's no point throughout the plant's life that clones can't be taken.

 

[Hammerhead]

I took 2. Maybe I can get these to root faster this way

 

[papaduc]

Ha, nice. Those are perfect and they'll root no problem.
Are they from something you were gonna reveg?

 

[Hammerhead]

No. Those are the Gogi. That Pheno is a bear to root. I took those just in case.

I just noticed I have other posts in this thread under my Banned username and Foomar made some f2 of my Purple Frostbyte

 

[Ras Mason]

the ones i posted up there taken like a few days before harvest fried and dryed under a fookin cfl....nevr happened to me...must have benn slightly too late...but it makes no sense...

 

[papaduc]

the ones i posted up there taken like a few days before harvest fried and dryed under a fookin cfl....nevr happened to me...must have benn slightly too late...but it makes no sense...

Big point about bud cloning.

Because the bud is in stasis waiting for some shoot to pop out of it, you've got to keep it from either drying (too much light/heat) or rotting (too much moisture)

Low light low moisture. Just let it sit there and it'll do it's thing.

 

[Ras Mason]

MAn, was i pissed, this is aspecial Nebula pheno before backcross,... fuckity fuck....

 

[Pinball Wizard]

Clones from 3 week flowering plants

Clones from 3 week flowering plants

These clones have been under 20/4 T5 lighting for 3 weeks.
Very strange leaf growth, smooth edges?