Do-it-yourself Haze

[OldCoolSativa]

Some pics at ~ 9 weeks...

@ojd's Sour Thai Nevil - not a pearl pheno like I'd hoped but has dense buds and a wonderful, complex aroma. Should be done by 11-12 weeks.

Holy Hanh - I did not grow this plant well; it never really seemed happy and it was generally lacking vigor. Harvested at 9 weeks. The other HH plant, a runt, was useless and was culled at 9 weeks; I may get a 1/2 oz of bud from it.

OHz - two clones from the seed I originally popped last summer. Still stretching at 9+ weeks. Metal shop aromas.

I put clones of the Nevil's Haze x THH #1 and #3 (sourced from @flower~power) into flower two weeks ago and they're doing fine...pics next time.

 

[OldCoolSativa]

Here's a pic of the grow last night coming up on 10 weeks. Pretty interesting that the OHz is just getting started with flower formation while the Sour Thai Nevil as almost finished at this point. Clone of the Holy Hanh plant is front center, clone of the Sour Thai Nevil plant is middle row left side, and the NH x THH clones from @flower~power are in the middle row center and right. These clones have only been under 12/12 for two weeks; NH x THH #1 is less vigorous but unreal terps, while #3 is very vigorous.

 

[Maria Sanchez]

Hola @OldCoolSativa

Thank you for sharing these amazing grows.
These Nevil Grail Project plants are out of this world.
Glad you made some cuts.

 

[ojd]

Glad to see you run the Sour Thai Nevil aka Super Silver Sour Thai Nevil, its defo 1 of my favourites.
Shame you didn't get a pearl pheno as I know your was hoping for 1.
The Pearl pheno is not the best pheno of all phenos my opinion, still amazing and very special, and the purest Sativa pheno from the Sour Thai Nevil with an incredible taste and Cleanest High I've ever experienced with zero Indica detected, but I preferred several other phenos, but honestly loved all phenos.

I made a new x with the Pearl pheno of Sour Thai Nevil x Dankincense Male ( NH23 x Kariba x Original Diesel) NH23 x Kariba leaner , I don't see there being alot of interest in the Pearl pheno X's due to yield and flower time (12weeks minimum) but will send you a few packs to check out if interested) as your defo a Sativa warrior and did a great show on the first round and this new run with the 1 Sour Thai Nevil.

Anyone down to run a log on icmag.com of the Sour Thai Nevil , Pearl pheno x's hit me up

Sour Thai Nevil clone ( Pearl pheno) x Dankincense Male ( NH23 x Kariba leaner)

Sour Thai Nevil 2 clone ( Pearl pheno) x Chem d Madness Male ( Chem d clone x NH21 x Mullumbimby Madness Long Male ( Nevil Schoenmakers)

 

[OldCoolSativa]

Glad to see you run the Sour Thai Nevil aka Super Silver Sour Thai Nevil, its defo 1 of my favourites.
Shame you didn't get a pearl pheno as I know your was hoping for 1.
The Pearl pheno is not the best pheno of all phenos my opinion, still amazing and very special, and the purest Sativa pheno from the Sour Thai Nevil with an incredible taste and Cleanest High I've ever experienced with zero Indica detected, but I preferred several other phenos, but honestly loved all phenos.

I'm growing some crosses I made from that wonderful Outback haze #1 x (NH21 x MML) back in 2021-2022 and I'll be adding to this thread. But first I wanted to touch on the Sour Thai Nevil that I grew last year. As @ojd noted, I didn't get the pearl pheno; the plant I grew seemed to be about 70% sour deez. Holy shit was it potent. I mean ridiculously potent. I had a couple whiteys when smoking it and the most recent one, last summer, gave me pause to seriously consider taking a long break from smoking weed. It was too much for me, and for the woman I was dating at the time. So @ojd deserves props for yet another really powerful cross. That one just wasn't my style. My kids loved it though.

More to come shortly on the latest grow.

 

[flower~power]

had a couple whiteys when smoking it and the most recent one, last summer, gave

Happens to the best of us

 

[Maria Sanchez]

But first I wanted to touch on the Sour Thai Nevil that I grew last year. As @ojd noted, I didn't get the pearl pheno; the plant I grew seemed to be about 70% sour deez. Holy shit was it potent. I mean ridiculously potent. I had a couple whiteys when smoking it and the most recent one, last summer, ...

Haha, okay, it wasn't just me then having that with the SSSTN.
Once or twice within 5 minutes of bong hits.
Once or twice up to like an hour or so after.
Don't stand up too fast on this girl, either.
(Though mine was maybe 50/50 on the SSSDH and the NvThai ratio.)

 

[flower~power]

usually don’t experience potency like that unless it’s through an extraction

 

[ojd]

I'm growing some crosses I made from that wonderful Outback haze #1 x (NH21 x MML) back in 2021-2022 and I'll be adding to this thread. But first I wanted to touch on the Sour Thai Nevil that I grew last year. As @ojd noted, I didn't get the pearl pheno; the plant I grew seemed to be about 70% sour deez. Holy shit was it potent. I mean ridiculously potent. I had a couple whiteys when smoking it and the most recent one, last summer, gave me pause to seriously consider taking a long break from smoking weed. It was too much for me, and for the woman I was dating at the time. So @ojd deserves props for yet another really powerful cross. That one just wasn't my style. My kids loved it though.

More to come shortly on the latest grow.

We had no Sour Diesel phenos show up but you must be thinking of a SSSDH pheno ( SSH x Sour Diesel) , both strains used the SSSDH and Swiss Thai nevil are both potent so definitely a potent hybrid overall.


Look forward to your pics of the X you made with my Outback Haze x NH21 x Mullumbimby Madness that you ran before ( was a killer show you put on for us )

 

[OldCoolSativa]

Here are some hazes I have about 2.5 weeks into 12/12. I'm running them with some Colombian sativas that I describe in another thread. They're all in 3.5-gal fabric pots in organic soil in an 8' x 4' tent under 640 W of home-made LED COBs.

First up are some Outback haze #1 x (NH21 x MML) F2s I made from seed from @ojd. Here's the awesome female I used...she wen141 days:

Outback haze #1 x (NH21 x MML) mother of F2s

And here's the sire of these F2s:

Outback haze #1 x (NH21 x MML) sire of F2s

Outback haze #1 x (NH21 x MML) F2s at 2.5 weeks of 12/12

 

[OldCoolSativa]

Next haze on deck is the same outback haze mother as above crossed to an Angeldorado male that I selected from six males. Angeldorado is a cross I made from an Angel's Breather F2, the churchiest, trippiest, best tasting weed I've ever grown, crossed to the same 1978 Colombian gold male pollen that I used to make puntodroado and puntodorado BX. So this plant combines the best genetics sativa and haze I've found, all exhibiting fenotrigo flower structure and 18-21-week flowering time.

Angel's Breathe F2, the mother of Angeldorado

Rather than typing Outback haze #1 x (NH21 x MML) every time, I'm just going to refer to the mother of these hazes as Australian Outback Haze. I have one flowering in the tent and another growing outdoors at 42N.

Australian Outback Haze x Angeldorado

Australian Outback Haze x Angeldorado - outdoors at 42N

 

[OldCoolSativa]

Last but not least is a Nevil's Haze x Tom Hill haze (NHxTHH) that I grew outdoors last year that was pollinated by four selected punto rojo males. The NH x THH #3 mother plant was gifted to me as a clone by @flower~power , grown from seed from @MAHA KALA. This was outstanding herb, and even though it didn't properly finish at 42N, it still provided a great, powerful high and lots of seed.

I have one (NHxTHH) x punto rojo in the tent and two others, including a nice looking male, growing outdoors. Textbook Christmas-tree structure on the one that's flowering.

(NHxTHH) x punto rojo indoors

(NHxTHH) x punto rojo male outdoors

 

[flower~power]

Last but not least is a Nevil's Haze x Tom Hill haze (NHxTHH) that I grew outdoors last year that was pollinated by four selected punto rojo males. The NH x THH #3 mother plant was gifted to me as a clone by @flower~power , grown from seed from @MAHA KALA. This was outstanding herb, and even though it didn't properly finish at 42N, it still provided a great, powerful high and lots of seed.

I have one (NHxTHH) x punto rojo in the tent and two others, including a nice looking male, growing outdoors. Textbook Christmas-tree structure on the one that's flowering.

(NHxTHH) x punto rojo indoors
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(NHxTHH) x punto rojo male outdoors
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Holy cow

 

[flower~power]

I forgot your dogs name ? such a sweetie pie … they got along famously

 

[OldCoolSativa]

That’s Amigo!

 

[flower~power]

Hey there Amigo

 

[OldCoolSativa]

Indoor Hazes at 5 weeks

These hazes are coming along nicely after 5 weeks of 12/12 in the tent. The (NH x THH) x PR looks to be the fastest girl in the tent, which is sort of what I was aiming for. As a general rule, my breeding strategy is to select the most feral-looking sativa and haze plants that flower the longest in an effort to move the needle toward the psure sativa archetypes of what I believe is the best weed the world has known. However, with this line of NH x THH, I've grown it outdoors and crossed it to outdoor-grown Colombian sativas to see if I can get sativa plants that can finish, or get close to finishing, at 42N.


(NH x THH) x PR

Australian Outback Haze x Angeldorado

Australian Outback Haze F2 plant a

Outback Haze F2 plant b

Australian Outback Haze F2 plant c

 

[OldCoolSativa]

Here's what the outdoor haze plants are doing in early August

Australian Outback Haze x Angeldorado and (NHxTHH) x PR - outdoors at 42N
Planted in the corner of my potager, this beautiful plant is about 6.5 ft tall and very happy right now. The smaller plant to the right is (NH x THH) x punto rojo.

And this is the (NH x THH) x punto rojo male.

 

[OldCoolSativa]

Here are the indoor hazes at six weeks. The three on the right are Australian outback haze F2s. Back left is Australian Outback Haze x Angeldorado. Front left is (Nevil's haze x Tom Hill Haze) x punto rojo. Smaller than the others, but looking to be a nice yielder and pretty fast...maybe 12 weeks? One of my goals last year when I used four selected punto rojo males to on open pollinate the (NH x THH)#1 and #3 plants I grew outdoors last year was to expose these tropical genetics to a New England climate to see if the offspring might be faster to flower. While shorter flower time is antithetical to my primary breeding philosophy, this is a little side experiment and it yielded lots of seeds to play with.

 

[Maria Sanchez]

@OldCoolSativa -- what's the light cycle where you are when they start to flower?
That middle girl in the tent, that's going to be a monster cola my friend!