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heady blunts

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mmm me love snomoji! nom nom nom nom!

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Lester Beans

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Hi D.F

Love the new room design! Congrats on the Mars contest! I really want one of those 3000's, soon enough.

You project sounds great, about time someone is going for a high yielding elite! Our X-Ray project has done just that, great structure large yield potent and terpy! Next I am going to grow some Skunk. I haven't had any good skunk bud in a good while.

Best of luck to your genetic search! It will be fun watching the process!
 

dank.frank

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Just wanted to let everyone know - the necessary information has been given to Mars Hydro and things are en route to the safe addy.

I did keep my word from an earlier post and asked if it was possible to get a second light. Mars Hydro was kind enough to allow me to purchase a 2nd SP3000 prior to their full public release.

We are going to see what 2 x Mars Hydro SP3000 can do. That's been the trend here in this garden. 2 x 315w. 2 x XB200. 2 x SP3000.

I feel good about this decision. I'll let everyone know when things arrive and we'll do a full unboxing.

The light is said to cover 2' x 5' - my flowering space is 2.5' x 5'. I know that two lights is going to be a bit of overkill - but that is the entire point - and that's why they have dimmers. :joint:

This is the 5th time in the past calendar year, I've been gifted something from the vendors of this community. XB200. Karma Genetics testers. Epistar 160. Karma Genetics A5 lines. SP3000.

I won't even discuss the personal gifts.

I truly love this community. ICmag is so much more to me than just a forum. This is my home and where I belong. You are my people. You are my tribe. :respect:



dank.Frank
 

Mars Hydro Led

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Just wanted to let everyone know - the necessary information has been given to Mars Hydro and things are en route to the safe addy.

I did keep my word from an earlier post and asked if it was possible to get a second light. Mars Hydro was kind enough to allow me to purchase a 2nd SP3000 prior to their full public release.

We are going to see what 2 x Mars Hydro SP3000 can do. That's been the trend here in this garden. 2 x 315w. 2 x XB200. 2 x SP3000.

I feel good about this decision. I'll let everyone know when things arrive and we'll do a full unboxing.

The light is said to cover 2' x 5' - my flowering space is 2.5' x 5'. I know that two lights is going to be a bit of overkill - but that is the entire point - and that's why they have dimmers. :joint:

This is the 5th time in the past calendar year, I've been gifted something from the vendors of this community. XB200. Karma Genetics testers. Epistar 160. Karma Genetics A5 lines. SP3000.

I won't even discuss the personal gifts.

I truly love this community. ICmag is so much more to me than just a forum. This is my home and where I belong. You are my people. You are my tribe. :respect:



dank.Frank


Thanks for choosing us :huggg:
Cannot wait to see what SP3000 can do and make some comparison with other lights.
 

dank.frank

ef.yu.se.ka.e.em
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@MarsHydro - I try to keep it as clean as possible but I'd not nearly call it professional. To date, I've not been running a dehumidifier. I do have one on hand though. I do not run fully sealed rooms or use CO2. I don't use It's really just a home garden - with some DIY adaptations.

The main reason I frame and insulate is to better regulate temperature and fan/air noise.

@heady blunts - Snomoji - you know the deal. The truth is always in the offspring, but the gene pool is stacked right. Time will tell. If anything of real value is found, you know F.A.M.I.L.Y. comes first.

@Lester Beans - X-Ray sounds like a winner. I mean, it's the same things we all want in one plant...LOL...it's just actually finding it. You should run a thread on her and let us see what you've been working on.

@og.naj - Thanks! Looking forward to getting it finished up.

I've got roots on some of the Boz and some of the Luci/Sis. That's 11 days. About A week faster than I was getting roots before. I've really buckled down on my sanitation in the cloning arena and I think it's made a big difference the last two rounds I've taken.

Another round of Boz, M9, Lazy, Luci/Sis cuts will be taken this weekend. Plants are growing good and with new rooms coming, it won't hurt to have the next rounds already vegging out, you know, like it should be to begin with.

I need to get on that perpertual flow vibe...M9 needs mono-cropped, non-stop, on repeat.



dank.Frank
 

genetic freaked

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Yes this may be my creation since I put the pollen on the lucky lady but this is a joint project.. More of a Distance Breedlationship LOL..

We have spoken for hours about the possibilities of this seed line and in the next couple weeks we will be able to dive into this seed line..

I will be more active to showcase Snomoji with you..

You have always been spot on with what will come of a seed line so if what you say comes out everyone on IC is in for a treat..
 

dank.frank

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Better news - I picked up 2 x SP3000 from the safe addy earlier this afternoon. They seem to be in good shape. Packaging intact.

I'll be posting an unboxing and such later tonight. :respect:

The timing is perfect. I have enough rooted clones of the Boz to transplant into the main bed and get things vegging under these new lights.



dank.Frank
 

dank.frank

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I'm not sure about the SP250 - but the 3000 is - 42.5" long. 3.2" wide. 4.1" tall. 10.2 lbs.



dank.Frank
 

dank.frank

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Hello everyone. I'm sorry for the absence.

Truth is, I've just been battling a bout of serious depression. I honestly have no reason to be "down", but I've been fighting this off ever the middle of January.

The girl I was seeing, after only two days of being "official", decided to jump on a plane and run off to the same side piece she kept a 4 year affair with while she with the last guy she was dating for 8 years.

I knew she had her issues in the past when we met, but it seemed like her awareness of her faults meant she had grown past such mistakes and ignorance.

I was wrong, is the long story short. She really manipulated me and played me like a fiddle and I feel like fucking moron. I even tried to work through things with her for several months after and she just couldn't get her head screwed on straight.

In the process, she just strung me along with broken promises and used me for practice.

I've not spoken to her or seen her for months now and that was my decision. I got so fed up with her faking emotional weakness and social ignorance to manipulate me to get her way, that I literally spent the better part of 12 hours texting her, what perhaps was cruel, but in many ways the most 100% honest and factual, "fuck off". When I'm done, I'm done. I should have never accepted her half measures anyway. I'm really an all or nothing person.

I'm not mad at her anymore. I don't think about her daily anymore. If I do, it's with disgust and frustration. Not at her, but mostly at myself. I was lonely. I was weak. I've always deeply wanted to connect with someone and have it be real.

I compromised myself. I convinced myself after being alone for 8.5 years, the best option was honesty. True honesty. She started lying to me the second night we met and it's only after the fact that has all come to light. She never intended our interactions to last, because she began undermining any possibility since nearly day one, and she knew it - but she convinced me and once she had me hook, line and sinker, she allowed me to give and give and give and give -and she legitimately convinced me we were trying to build something together. I've never let someone into my life - into my world - my REAL world - as much as I did her.

I'm honestly just devastated by my own ignorance. There were two specific instances where I allowed her to talk me out of what was truly my gut instinct. My fucking INSTINCT. Things I knew to be correct because the universe showed me - how? I have no clue - but when you KNOW you are right and you allow someone a bit of breadth to prove you wrong - sigh - fucking stupid.

My instinct has told me at times to pack up and tear down the garden only to learn cops came the next morning. My instinct has saved me COUNTLESS TIMES.

I can't believe I was so stupid to break Rule #1. - TELL NO ONE.

I should have walked away then, when she pressed me for more. I've posted about the sacrifices I've chosen to make as a grower and safety should always come first. Even so, I don't feel as if I have a security risk. She already did the damage she intended.

All this is to say:

I've been seriously lacking motivation. I've been dealing with a massive hole in my life - one I spent years and years growing past. I was VERY content with my world as it was, but I have to admit, sharing this world and this experience we call life - with someone, makes it all so much more meaningful...

Which is what is bothering me the most. Why can't I find the motivation to live life as exuberantly when I'm alone - when it's just me? Why don't I have the passion to exist if I don't have someone to exist for? Why don't I view myself as "someone"?

It's become this existential bull shit net I'm just flopping around in.

Cannabis was always my escape from the rest of it. It was mine. My secret. That changed with this past experience and now even the garden seems different and doesn't provide the solace it once did.

I'm sorry. I'll get my shit together. I'm getting there. Spent the 4th with F.A.M. and that helped. Yesterday, I was driving and suddenly, for no reason, I sort of got over it.

Time heals all wounds. I've got plenty to share and discuss in this thread - I've just got to find the motivation.

Much love, ICmag.



dank.Frank
 

Bmac1

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Hey frank, good to see you back. I know it's tough not to blame yourself but we are all mostly fumbling our way around a dark room looking for a light switch. Every once in a while we find one.


All the best man.
 

GET MO

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I’ve fought depression all thru my life since my mom passed when I was 8. I always self medicated with alcohol, which never really cured shit, prolly made it worse, but temporary escape and not give a fuck pill. One thing that kind of changed my outlook in a positive way is a book called The power of now by eckhart tolle. It really puts things in perspective and I recommend it to everyone whether going thru it or not. Reading in general has helped me, studying psychology and habit and communication, I got a lot of book recommendations if your ever interested for all different subjects, from the art of seduction to laws of success, but the power of now was something else.
Another thing that has helped me was psychedelic mushrooms. I think anyone who is suicidal or depressed should take a nice dose of mushrooms and see if their perspective isnt changed. Sorta like a reset button, people are scared they will become something they are not or something they fear but it doesnt change who you are, just opens up ones perception, like switching to a wide angle lens.
 

Prodigygrower

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Sorry to hear of your troubles brother. Take your time get your head together focus on things that make you happy. I wish had something meaningful to say about finding the rite one and love conquers all. The truth is I’ve been through my own bull shit and I’ve come to realize those who care the least have the most power. Saying that to say I’ve Ben fucked and never would I want to go through that or give another that power over me again. Probably not the healthiest way to live but it works for now. They say you find that all encompassing life changing love when your not looking so I haven’t been lol. Any way I’m always here if ya need to chat brother. Keep your head up and I can’t wait to see what you have cooking for the future.
 

Chunkypigs

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I've not exactly kept up with the current university/scientific research in states where things have been legalized. One of the key elements for controlling costs and increasing production efficiency is establishing nutrient thresholds.

Does anyone now of any university/scientific research that has established base NPK profiles for drug type cannabis? I know the information is out there for hemp, but I can't find it for cannabis.

The best I can tell, from studies done in Israel, a common NPK profile used in greenhouse systems is essentially 4-6-5. Using that as numbers to establish a base line for feeding on a per acre basis, we are looking at 200-300-250.

If cannabis was grown like a traditional row crop, where nitrogen leaching was a concern, the entire bulk of N-P-K is applied at the beginning of the season, followed by much smaller applications of N, usually about 1/5 the original amount, as the season progresses. We do much the same when we transplant into a larger container, providing a new dose of nutrients for the roots to spread into and feed the plant.

Before I go down a road that has likely already been traveled by those with more resources at there disposal for having true controls to contrast the variables with. Larger data sets to compile from which to draw more accurate conclusions.

Known per acre NPK profiles for drug cultivar cannabis?



dank.Frank

found this when I was looking for organic fert sources closer to me.

looks like they mention the studies used to base their figures on but didn't quote them directly.


Recommended fertility for field-grown hemp

For pre-plant, baseline fertility in field hemp, Seven Springs Farm* recommends the following diversified fertilizer application aimed at increasing soil biology and providing timely fertility to meet crop demands:

Primary fertility (N-P-K) per acre:
1000 lbs NatureSafe 8-5-5 (or one ton of Harmony/Symphony)
800 lbs Feather or Blood meal (or NS 13-0-0)
250 lbs Fish meal
250 lbs Alfalfa meal
40-80 lbs Humic DGSoil biology building and micro-nutrients per acre:
50-100 lbs Kelp meal
50-100 lbs Worm castings

For transplant water (to reduce transplant stress) per acre:

10.7 oz Maxicrop Soluble Seaweed Powder concentrate
This equals 214 lb N (+/- 150 plant available),
65 lb P,
55 lb K plus humic acid for increased uptake/efficiency and kelp and castings for micro-nutrients and biological stimulation.

A budget alternative, or for growers who prefer to handle pelleted fertilizer, use all of the following:
1250 lb NatureSafe 8-5-5,
850 lb NatureSafe 13-0-0, &
40-80 lbs Humic DG

This equals 210 lbs N (+/-150 plant available) - 62 lbs P - 62 lbs K

If a soil analysis shows a given deficiency or excess make adjustments accordingly.

*Recommendations are based on average crop demand numbers from field studies by Purdue, Penn State and NC State.

SEVEN SPRINGS FARM
Organic Farming & Gardening Supplies
426 Jerry Lane, Check, VA 24072
 

dank.frank

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@everyone - I appreciate you. :joint:

@Get Mo - I'll have to check that book out. Thanks for the recommendation.

@Chunkypigs - This is what I'm rolling with. This is based on a standard lbs per acre formulation, just broken down to smaller scale for at home growers. I'm fully confident running these basic NPK profiles, with some of their suggestions modified a bit, would produce the quality for flowers were are expecting and used to seeing, while at the same time, building the soil FASTER. 3 years vs 5 years, in terms of building organic matter and fostering bacterial, fungal and microbial communities.

I appreciate you sharing their take on it though - but I don't think that is going to result in the same product we equate to as "dank".

You can base amend the whole field that way, but I'd suggest you have drip lines and fertigation systems in place, because you are going to need them if the plants get any size to them at all.

EWC - 100# per acre. That's about 3 bags of Wiggle Worm on an ENTIRE acre. That's not doing anything but helping the bulk amendment mix stick together as it goes through the spreader. As far as soil fertility, that's moot at that scale.

That's the problem I have with most of these suggestions. (and I respect the source, so no offense intended) I know exactly how much a cannabis plant can consume.

It's exactly why, I'd rather plant 2 acres at a cost of $12-15k per acre to amend the soil properly. I'm not trying to feed a plant it's most basic needs. I'm trying to build the soil and ensure that my crop potential increases every year as a result of having improved the soil quality. After 3 years, input cost decrease substantially, as soil health has improved. Not generically either, but in specific areas. Organic matter. CEC and proper saturation ratios.

The list goes on - but the best investment you can ever make as an organic farmer is into the soil. If the soil is right, it'll grow anything you want, including a crop with high nutritional demands like cannabis or CBD Hemp, and to a lesser degree, fiber or seed hemp.

Anyway...lol... - 740-1110-945

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Point being, I think they are under feeding a bit, if they are trying to produce truly dank CBD flower. (that being an assumption) Also, if their data is derived from university studies, it is likely based on OLD data and commercial fiber types with very very limited to no cannabinoid production. Just an assumption.



dank.Frank
 
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Blazeee

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I’ve fought depression all thru my life since my mom passed when I was 8. I always self medicated with alcohol, which never really cured shit, prolly made it worse, but temporary escape and not give a fuck pill. One thing that kind of changed my outlook in a positive way is a book called The power of now by eckhart tolle. It really puts things in perspective and I recommend it to everyone whether going thru it or not. Reading in general has helped me, studying psychology and habit and communication, I got a lot of book recommendations if your ever interested for all different subjects, from the art of seduction to laws of success, but the power of now was something else.
Another thing that has helped me was psychedelic mushrooms. I think anyone who is suicidal or depressed should take a nice dose of mushrooms and see if their perspective isnt changed. Sorta like a reset button, people are scared they will become something they are not or something they fear but it doesnt change who you are, just opens up ones perception, like switching to a wide angle lens.

I've had a couple people recommend The Power of Now to me. I think i will finally order it after your post. Ive never really been one for books, i can read a 100 page + thread on here no problem, but have always struggled to get in to books.
 

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