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moose eater
soul transport?
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maybe, interesting idea i'd say
ufo's date back in history quite far
looks like they've always been with us
M
moose eater
Had a sort of epiphany last evening, nearly midnight, laying there tired, nearly done with trimming, etc. Listening to someone babble about air-headed nothingness on the tube.
Similar in depth to when you lose your car/truck keys, and search relentlessly, then ruthlessly to find them, tearing stuff apart, looking every place you've been, only to find them virtually staring at you in the center of the kitchen table, or, worse yet, in your hand. but without the frantic energy involved in such a search. This one just kind of slid into place for me.
Laying there, and who knows why(??), suddenly I found myself first contemplating the world from a botanical/biological perspective. Plants and critters.
The concept of 'eternal; life' and 'reincarnation' popped into my head, but from that botanical/biological perspective.
Getting rid of all the ethereal what-ifs worshipped by umpteen religions, with little more than mere faith to support elaborate claims of this, that, or the other, and sticking to a plausible concrete framework, it occurred to me that when we die (presuming we don't selfishly incarcerate our flesh in a tomb or crypt, pumped full of chemistry that prevents us from decomposing and feeding the worms, earth, etc.) we inevitably are consumed by living organisms.
Those organisms are eaten by other plants, animals humans, etc. and turned into other microbial critters. The cycle continues. Over and over, in theory, for ever, and ever.
And if a plant or animal that has partaken of the microbes, plants, trees, etc., ingests some part of us, how many times removed, especially if a human partakes of that plant or animal, how ever many generations removed, then we become a part of that being. A form of reincarnation, though not as soul-or-spirit specific as often thought of.
So as an Agnostic, I found a real and plausible road to both eternal life and reincarnation in the real world. And it was so basic and obvious, it was embarrassing.
There ya' go. A course of thoughts partly inspired by the widow bomb I just took from the lights, to let die.. I may have to save her via cuttings for reconsideration. She's earned an appellate review or trial, at least.
Similar in depth to when you lose your car/truck keys, and search relentlessly, then ruthlessly to find them, tearing stuff apart, looking every place you've been, only to find them virtually staring at you in the center of the kitchen table, or, worse yet, in your hand. but without the frantic energy involved in such a search. This one just kind of slid into place for me.
Laying there, and who knows why(??), suddenly I found myself first contemplating the world from a botanical/biological perspective. Plants and critters.
The concept of 'eternal; life' and 'reincarnation' popped into my head, but from that botanical/biological perspective.
Getting rid of all the ethereal what-ifs worshipped by umpteen religions, with little more than mere faith to support elaborate claims of this, that, or the other, and sticking to a plausible concrete framework, it occurred to me that when we die (presuming we don't selfishly incarcerate our flesh in a tomb or crypt, pumped full of chemistry that prevents us from decomposing and feeding the worms, earth, etc.) we inevitably are consumed by living organisms.
Those organisms are eaten by other plants, animals humans, etc. and turned into other microbial critters. The cycle continues. Over and over, in theory, for ever, and ever.
And if a plant or animal that has partaken of the microbes, plants, trees, etc., ingests some part of us, how many times removed, especially if a human partakes of that plant or animal, how ever many generations removed, then we become a part of that being. A form of reincarnation, though not as soul-or-spirit specific as often thought of.
So as an Agnostic, I found a real and plausible road to both eternal life and reincarnation in the real world. And it was so basic and obvious, it was embarrassing.
There ya' go. A course of thoughts partly inspired by the widow bomb I just took from the lights, to let die.. I may have to save her via cuttings for reconsideration. She's earned an appellate review or trial, at least.
A Little bit late but I just see OASIS for the 1st time live, uplugged on MTV.
hasta luego
hasta luego
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Huckster79
This is probaby why we should all journal and write down our knowledge on different things... wouldnt any of us value such a thing from our parents or grandparents?
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Huckster79
Had a sort of epiphany last evening, nearly midnight, laying there tired, nearly done with trimming, etc. Listening to someone babble about air-headed nothingness on the tube.
Similar in depth to when you lose your car/truck keys, and search relentlessly, then ruthlessly to find them, tearing stuff apart, looking every place you've been, only to find them virtually staring at you in the center of the kitchen table, or, worse yet, in your hand. but without the frantic energy involved in such a search. This one just kind of slid into place for me.
Laying there, and who knows why(??), suddenly I found myself first contemplating the world from a botanical/biological perspective. Plants and critters.
The concept of 'eternal; life' and 'reincarnation' popped into my head, but from that botanical/biological perspective.
Getting rid of all the ethereal what-ifs worshipped by umpteen religions, with little more than mere faith to support elaborate claims of this, that, or the other, and sticking to a plausible concrete framework, it occurred to me that when we die (presuming we don't selfishly incarcerate our flesh in a tomb or crypt, pumped full of chemistry that prevents us from decomposing and feeding the worms, earth, etc.) we inevitably are consumed by living organisms.
Those organisms are eaten by other plants, animals humans, etc. and turned into other microbial critters. The cycle continues. Over and over, in theory, for ever, and ever.
And if a plant or animal that has partaken of the microbes, plants, trees, etc., ingests some part of us, how many times removed, especially if a human partakes of that plant or animal, how ever many generations removed, then we become a part of that being. A form of reincarnation, though not as soul-or-spirit specific as often thought of.
So as an Agnostic, I found a real and plausible road to both eternal life and reincarnation in the real world. And it was so basic and obvious, it was embarrassing.
There ya' go. A course of thoughts partly inspired by the widow bomb I just took from the lights, to let die.. I may have to save her via cuttings for reconsideration. She's earned an appellate review or trial, at least.
I had very similiar revalation once and may have posted it on here. Kinda makes me want to not be embalmed and sealed in a casket and vault...
I wonder if a new world of funeral services could be created where our remains are turned into fertilizer not burnt to ash nor sealed off from decomposition chemically and sealed off physically from the earth via casket and vault.
Instead of a cemetary of sad headstonez it would be acres of flowers, huge beautiful garden parks with paths and benches and fountains and the flowers and trees you are enjoying are a living continuation of the "deceased"
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Huckster79
The ideas been thpught through! In detail by a woman in calofornia.
http://grist.org/living/how-human-composting-will-change-death-in-the-city/
http://grist.org/living/how-human-composting-will-change-death-in-the-city/
I always thought of a sea burial as being the fastest way to process any nutritional value our bodies might have after we expire......Give me to the sharks, and let 'em have at it.
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moose eater
Ran out of rep again.
Yes, there are already 'natural burial' sites in North America, and maybe elsewhere. One I saw in a documentary had trails, with brush, flowers, etc., sometimes rocks marking places.
Some places you have to have a permit for a 'natural burial,' in part due to hygiene/health concerns. They (if I recall correctly) mandate refrigeration pre-burial for natural burials where I am, if I recall correctly. Maybe that was for a natural burial transport permit. (*Back then I was researching being buried in the Yukon Territory, but that plan went away due to tribal/First Nations complications).
I'm thinking there's also issues re. nearby water tables, aquifers, tributaries, etc.
I researched this a few years back.
Cremation primarily returns calcium, some potassium, and micro-nutes. Natural burial returns the whole gamut, ranging from nitrogen when the composting body is more fresh, then working its way through phosphorous, then the others that would normally be left after cremation.
And yeah, my old giant malamute has a McFarland lilac planted over him. Why not a giant, pruned, perpetual sativa tree?
Yes, there are already 'natural burial' sites in North America, and maybe elsewhere. One I saw in a documentary had trails, with brush, flowers, etc., sometimes rocks marking places.
Some places you have to have a permit for a 'natural burial,' in part due to hygiene/health concerns. They (if I recall correctly) mandate refrigeration pre-burial for natural burials where I am, if I recall correctly. Maybe that was for a natural burial transport permit. (*Back then I was researching being buried in the Yukon Territory, but that plan went away due to tribal/First Nations complications).
I'm thinking there's also issues re. nearby water tables, aquifers, tributaries, etc.
I researched this a few years back.
Cremation primarily returns calcium, some potassium, and micro-nutes. Natural burial returns the whole gamut, ranging from nitrogen when the composting body is more fresh, then working its way through phosphorous, then the others that would normally be left after cremation.
And yeah, my old giant malamute has a McFarland lilac planted over him. Why not a giant, pruned, perpetual sativa tree?
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Huckster79
There are green burial cwmwtaries all over! Just google it, there were like 10 in my state. Wow im kinda geeked, this as a real option seems so complete and how it should be... i think i found how im fgoing out...
i'm donating my remains to the Body Farm in knoxville. they stretch you out in nature & do research as you deteriorate for forensic purposes. when they are finished, the remains are cremated. i always liked the plains indians idea of tree/platform burial where the birds took care of the problem...
if i never ever eat at mcdonalds,
then why do my armpits smell
exactly like a big mac?
then why do my armpits smell
exactly like a big mac?
is that a riddle lol
i think it’s one for bill nye the science guy
M
moose eater
Special sauce??
How real is reality, I better say,: Wie wirklich ist die Wirklichkeit.
St. Phatty
Active member
Wow, 250 pages of Deep Thoughts.
Stoners Rule !
Stoners Rule !
M
moose eater
I'm putting on my Santa hat.. But it doesn't make me Santa.. Dammit!!
