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Deep State: Exposed

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I assume he is talking about Mike Pence, I don't see that happening and I'm from Indiana.

I can’t stand pence. He has no backbone and goes where ever his moist finger in the wind tells him. Terrible governor and anti legalization. No way he will ever be a seriously considered candidate after the next 4 years. Another mitt romney light.
 

h.h.

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Looks like you're the bootlicker now. Nothing new from the TDS crowd. If they weren't prosecuted by a guy with no prosecution powers, that's a complete exoneration. The FISA process is going to be reworked to prevent crooked cops from abusing it again. You don't rework legal policy over, a few clerical errors.

Horowitz will be in front of the Senate on Wednesday., I am sure we will learn more.
Bullshit. GOP clowns.

You like the lies.
 

med4u

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4 corrupted unverified fisa reports 3 signed by Comey 1 by Rosenstein
Without which there would be no Russian probe
Tip of the iceberg...17 significant omissions or errors in fisa app
Even one is too many in the "most professional law enforcement agency in the world"
This is not just about trump..this is our top cops playing fuckery in our government...all of us should be very concerned...and yes someone should be held accountable
The IG only points out broken shit within the system or the system itself
Durham is going after those that broke it and the laws inside or out of Gov bounds
Only a fool would find this trivial or acceptable
 

h.h.

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4 corrupted unverified fisa reports 3 signed by Comey 1 by Rosenstein
Without which there would be no Russian probe
Tip of the iceberg...17 significant omissions or errors in fisa app
Even one is too many in the "most professional law enforcement agency in the world"
This is not just about trump..this is our top cops playing fuckery in our government...all of us should be very concerned...and yes someone should be held accountable
The IG only points out broken shit within the system or the system itself
Durham is going after those that broke it and the laws inside or out of Gov bounds
Only a fool would find this trivial or acceptable

Grasping at straws.
Rather sad how low trumpies minions will sink in their hatred of country.
 

Badfishy1

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4 corrupted unverified fisa reports 3 signed by Comey 1 by Rosenstein
Without which there would be no Russian probe
Tip of the iceberg...17 significant omissions or errors in fisa app
Even one is too many in the "most professional law enforcement agency in the world"
This is not just about trump..this is our top cops playing fuckery in our government...all of us should be very concerned...and yes someone should be held accountable
The IG only points out broken shit within the system or the system itself
Durham is going after those that broke it and the laws inside or out of Gov bounds
Only a fool would find this trivial or acceptable

Oh they’re scared. MediaMatters and ShariaBlue stalwarts are working over time. Some would say fools others would say sheep. The TDS crew can’t see past their unfounded blind rage. Can’t wait for Nancy and Schiff the nonce to lead the lemmings off the cliff.
 

med4u

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As you know this entire thread is dedicated to opinions....
This does not change or alter facts that are being revealed
To hide your head in the sand will only lead to being kicked in the ass
The real pain is comming and you cannot abate or negate that fact
 

armedoldhippy

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the IG report is on all of the news channels today. it said that yes, the FBI made some missteps, but that the investigation was begun & carried out legally. i'm sure that won't sink through some of y'alls skulls, as dense as you are. keep picking at what flaws you find for comfort. trump is guilty, and he's not the only one with his dick in the wringer...a mistake in how an investigation was carried out does not nullify the findings, sorry.:biggrin:
 

Absolem

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As you know this entire thread is dedicated to opinions....
This does not change or alter facts that are being revealed
To hide your head in the sand will only lead to being kicked in the ass
The real pain is comming and you cannot abate or negate that fact

From the News division at Fox News

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/7-takeaways-from-the-fisa-report

"We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the FBI’s decision to seek FISA authority on Carter Page," the report said.

"[W]e found that each investigation was opened for an authorized purpose and, in light of the low threshold established by department and FBI predication policy, with adequate factual predication," the report said.

Horowitz added that "even as the FBI developed this information, we found no evidence that the Crossfire Hurricane team reconsidered its reliance on the Steele reporting in the FISA renewal applications."

It has been long-reported that ex-counterintelligence agent Peter Strzok was the FBI official who formally opened the Crossfire Hurricane investigation in July 2016, but the inspector general report revealed that it was actually his supervisor, Bill Priestap, who ultimately made the decision


You should try the News side of politics sometime. All your talking points have been destroyed. All you can grasp is opinions pieces by a drunk.
 

med4u

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Indictments are forthcoming from Durham...I think that is clear...the demos have spent their load...now it is fully in the hands of the Republicans,John Durham and the American people to have the final say ...my guess is none of you will be happy with the resulting outcome
The pain is on the way....
 
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Mr D

A liberal Clinton voter's take on the IG report.


The analysis of the report by Justice Department inspector general Michael Horowitz greatly depends, as is often the case, on which cable news channel you watch. Indeed, many people might be excused for concluding that Horowitz spent 476 pages to primarily conclude one thing, which is that the Justice Department acted within its guidelines in starting its investigation into the 2016 campaign of President Trump.

Horowitz did say that the original decision to investigate was within the discretionary standard of the Justice Department. That standard for the predication of an investigation is low, simply requiring "articulable facts." He said that, since this is a low discretionary standard, he cannot say it was inappropriate to start. United States Attorney John Durham, who is heading the parallel investigation at the Justice Department, took the unusual step to issue a statement that he did not believe the evidence supported that conclusion at the very beginning of the investigation.

Attorney General William Barr also issued a statement disagreeing with the threshold statement. In fact, the Justice Department has a standard that requires the least intrusive means of investigating such entities as presidential campaigns, particularly when it comes to campaigns of the opposing party. That threshold finding is then followed by the remainder of the report, which is highly damaging and unsettling. Horowitz finds a litany of false and even falsified representations used to continue the secret investigation targeting the Trump campaign and its associates.

This is akin to reviewing the Titanic and saying that the captain was not unreasonable in starting the voyage. The question is what occurred when the icebergs began appearing. Horowitz says that investigative icebergs appeared rather early on, and the Justice Department not only failed to report that to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court but removed evidence that its investigation was on a collision course with the facts.


The investigation was largely based on a May 2016 conversation between Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos and Australian diplomat Alexander Downer in London. Papadopolous reportedly said he heard that Russia had thousands of emails from Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton. That was viewed as revealing possible prior knowledge of the WikiLeaks release two months later, which was then used to open four investigations targeting the campaign and Trump associates. Notably, Democrats and the media lambasted Trump for saying the Justice Department had been "spying" on his campaign, and many said it was just an investigation into figures like Carter Page. Horowitz describes poorly founded investigations that included undercover FBI agents and a variety of different sources. What they really discovered is the main point of the Horowitz report.

From the outset, the Justice Department failed to interview several key individuals or vet critical information and sources in the Steele dossier. Justice Department officials insisted to Horowitz that they choose not to interview campaign officials because they were unsure if the campaign was compromised and did not want to tip off the Russians. However, the inspector general report says the Russians were directly told about the allegations repeatedly by then CIA Director John Brennan and, ultimately, President Obama. So the Russians were informed, but no one contacted the Trump campaign so as not to inform the Russians? Meanwhile, the allegations quickly fell apart. Horowitz details how all of the evidence proved exculpatory of any collusion or conspiracy with the Russians.

Even worse, another agency that appears to be the CIA told the FBI that Page was actually working for the agency in Russia as an "operational contact" gathering intelligence. The FBI was told this repeatedly, yet it never reported it to the FISA court approving the secret investigation of Page. His claim to have worked with the federal government was widely dismissed. Worse yet, Horowitz found that investigators and the Justice Department concluded there was no probable cause on Page to support its FISA investigation. That is when there was an intervention from the top of the FBI, ordering investigators to look at the Steele dossier funded by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign instead.


Who told investigators to turn to the dossier? Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe. He was fired over his conduct in the investigation after earlier internal investigations. Horowitz contradicts the media claim that the dossier was just a small part of the case presented to the FISA court. He finds that it was essential to seeking FISA warrants. Horowitz also finds no sharing of information with FISA judges that undermined the credibility of the dossier or Christopher Steele himself. Surprisingly little effort was made to fully investigate the dossier when McCabe directed investigators to it, yet investigators soon learned that critical facts reported to the FISA court were false. FISA judges were told that a Yahoo News article was an independent corroboration of the Steele dossier, but Horowitz confirms that Steele was the source of that article. Therefore, Steele was used to corroborate Steele on allegations that were later deemed unfounded.

The report also said that Steele was viewed as reliable and was used as a source in prior cases, yet Horowitz found no support for that and, in fact, found that the past representations of Steele were flagged as unreliable. His veracity was not the only questionable thing unveiled in the report. Steele relied on a character who, Horowitz determined, had a dubious reputation and may have been under investigation as a possible double agent for Russia. Other instances were also clearly misrepresented.

The source relied on by Steele was presented as conveying damaging information on Trump. When this source was interviewed, he said he had no direct information and was conveying bar talk. He denied telling other details to Steele. This was all known to the Justice Department, but it still asked for warrant renewals from the FISA court without correcting the record or revealing exculpatory information discovered by investigators. That included the failure to tell the court that Page was working with the CIA. Finally, Horowitz found that an FBI lawyer doctored a critical email to hide the fact that Page was really working for us and not the Russians.


Despite this shockingly damning report, much of the media is reporting only that Horowitz did not find it unreasonable to start the investigation, and ignoring a litany of false representations and falsifications of evidence to keep the secret investigation going. Nothing was found to support any of those allegations, and special counsel Robert Mueller also confirmed there was no support for collusion and conspiracy allegations repeated continuously for two years by many experts and members of Congress.

In other words, when the Titanic set sail, there was no reason for it not to. Then there was that fateful iceberg. Like the crew of the Titanic, the FBI knew investigative icebergs floated around its Russia investigation, but not only did it not reduce speed, it actively suppressed the countervailing reports. Despite the many conflicts to its FISA application and renewals, the FBI leadership, including McCabe, plowed ahead into the darkness.

Jonathan Turley is the chair of public interest law at George Washington University and served as the last lead counsel in a Senate impeachment trial. He testified as a Republican witness in House Judiciary Committee hearing in the Trump impeachment inquiry. Follow him @JonathanTurley.

Hey WTF happened to Bribery and quid pro quo in the articles of Impeachment? :deadhorse
 
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Mr D

IG reports that Schiff lied in his intelligence committee FISA report and Nunes was 100% correct in his FISA report.

Since Schiff and Nunes had access to the same document when compiling there reports why did Schiff choose to lie?

The IG was so concerned by these "extensive compliance failures" that is has now initiated additional "oversight" to assess how FBI in general complies with "policies that seek to protect the civil liberties of U.S. persons."

IG reminds that it did "did not analyze all of the decisions in the Crossfire Hurricane investigation," but had a more limited scope. This is where Durham comes in because crossfire hurricane is in his scope.......
 

med4u

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Complains non stop about liberals and their opinions. Then posts an opinion piece to back up his claims.

Greg Jarrett does his best work in an airport bar.

Funny you should mention working from the bar...since this is where the infamous Steele dossier originated
Spewed rumors and innuendo from a bunch of drunks
 

packerfan79

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the IG report is on all of the news channels today. it said that yes, the FBI made some missteps, but that the investigation was begun & carried out legally. i'm sure that won't sink through some of y'alls skulls, as dense as you are. keep picking at what flaws you find for comfort. trump is guilty, and he's not the only one with his dick in the wringer...a mistake in how an investigation was carried out does not nullify the findings, sorry.:biggrin:

Hey, remember when you said the Steele dossier was verified. Lol.
 
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