White Beard
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Kind of alarming how much meat *in* the ‘transcript’ has been stripped out already in the reporting (which makes BM’s claim of “cherry-picking” the bloody thing).“Transcript” is actually a 10 minute summary of a 30 minute convo.
Quidproquo=this for that.
Zelensky-“we almost have enough money to buy Javellins from U.S.”
Trump-“ I need you to do us a favor”, after withholding 400 million in military aid.
Funny how trump supporters don’t understand or acknowledge the obvious, just have to say biden enough times and it goes away in trumpland
For example, these paraphrases from the not-a-transcript:
Earlier...Zelensky brings up the topic of the pending aid
Trump goes on about how GOOD we’ve been to Ukraine, how much we’ve done for them, how much money we’ve given them, and what a very good deal it’s all been for Ukraine.
Zelensky, as you quote him.
Trump, as you quote him - but you leave out “though”: “though” makes the promise (the military aid) *conditional* on the “favor” being done. THIS is the shakedown: if you want *that*, you need to do *this* for ME....
So: I picked some more cherries for you, to fill out the gaps in your knowledge. Feel free to pick your own if you like. The only ‘parody’ here is the one you present of a sound, sensible comment based on the summarized document in question.He never threatened to withhold aid, and aid was not withheld until a month or so later. Your also cherry picking the hell out of the phone call, nice "parody". The emails are real and show that Biden may have had a conflict of interest, despite how much you don't like his reporting facts are facts.
Facts *are* facts and calling bullshit “facts” doesn’t fix it...and if you want to call that “reporting”, well, that’s on you.
As for “he never threatened to withhold aid”, I guess you never had a “deal” with your dad/boss that turned out to be conditional on YOU clearing a hurdle to make a point or you couldn’t possibly miss it. And, as redlaser points out, the aid WAS ALREADY HELD UP. Just to sharpen the point of the conversation between Zelensky and Trump.
Have fun with your red herring....