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Ah, I guess am update here is long overdue.
After a good week of neglect I came back to this
The hose line dropped on the durbies, the sensors didn't plug and the babies got overwatered, thank goodness they're young.
Detail of the JLB
these look healthy and vigorous. Same pot, same conditions:
dunno why they didn't develop as well.
Me Durbies
don't worry about the pipe, it didn't do damage and it's not hard plastic, the young'un is just leaning against it.
After a good week of neglect I came back to this
The hose line dropped on the durbies, the sensors didn't plug and the babies got overwatered, thank goodness they're young.
Detail of the JLB
these look healthy and vigorous. Same pot, same conditions:
dunno why they didn't develop as well.Me Durbies
don't worry about the pipe, it didn't do damage and it's not hard plastic, the young'un is just leaning against it.
Little corner of curiosities.
I love the trifoliar symmetry that these Durbans are showing, I'm hoping for å little dimorphism to generate progeny
Then, there's this little fella that is JLB it seemed to have started as tricotyl but ended up "correcting" back to the usual two way split.
I love the trifoliar symmetry that these Durbans are showing, I'm hoping for å little dimorphism to generate progeny
Then, there's this little fella that is JLB it seemed to have started as tricotyl but ended up "correcting" back to the usual two way split.
BC LONE WOLF
Well-known member
If the pheno is superior from the pack why not?
Thinking of leaving it out of the breeding program out of fear the trifoliate could affect outcome of your F1s?
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I would still use them and separate the seeds from the pack, if your F1s have a commercial destination I can understand.
She looks awesome. Could give you a fasciated main cola.
Thinking of leaving it out of the breeding program out of fear the trifoliate could affect outcome of your F1s?
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I would still use them and separate the seeds from the pack, if your F1s have a commercial destination I can understand.
She looks awesome. Could give you a fasciated main cola.
Hehe, you never know,
my initial thought was to set them aside and hope for one male and one female, so I can bump the chances for CannaTris
in the future generations, and hopefully make it a stable trait.But then I am seeing that this one is rather the more vogorous of all the 5 Durbans, so I'm on the fence, my reason dictates I should use it for breeding, cons: downstream someone might not appreciate the trait.
dilemma....
EDIT: even worse, there might be a very unappealing recessive I am not seing rn.
Wwbsox
Active member
I don't know my ass from a hole in the ground, but... I will give you my buck-two-eighty-nine reply.
Is it possible that these anomalies are caused from in-breeding these pure strains? And if so, would using them exacerbate the effect? Compare it to plants that have a tendency to hermie. If you are using those plants in your breeding, the progeny will continue to display that trait, correct? In the end, your call, but I think you are doing great things!
Thank u. I appreciate feedback, this diary is both a way to show the genetics I work with (or torture would be a better description) and as a wall to bounce ideas off.
From my observations these "trifoliates" have not come out of my own inbreeding, as I try (big emphasis on try) not to inbreed too much and I try not to bottleneck as I carry out open pollination when I'm maintaining a line, unless I'm making a new cross (if they are not spectacular, I usually do small batch not meant for commercial distribution or being part of my conservation "effort") .
That said, they seem rather vigorous compared to other mutations I've come across, and its other Durban siblings too. Hence my sudden interest in actually trying to cross it. Now, seeing that the JLB also showed one tristemmed (that "corrected" itself by the first internode tho) does make me think it might be an inbreeding trait, as the breeder is adamant about it's inbred status.
However, considering that JLB stems from Africa (partially) as does Durban i see it more as a shared ancestry trait and because I have observed more random trifoliates show up from the Durban (I started from 10 durban seeds of which I selected 3 females and 2 males both of which cross pollinated the three females, but I'm unaware if they're inbred or open pollinated or crossed before I started working with them, I'd love to send it to a gene lab for markers.) which is supposedly less selected than the JLB I'm more prone to think that in the JLB the trait has been selected against (which imo explains why all my JLB trifoliates try to correct into difoliate asap, survival bitches!).
All this is but conjecture.
State of the art
Wwbsox
Active member
On the other hand... really healthy looking. I know you are looking for a Durban male for this cross, but if that was a female, with 50% more bud sites, oh yeah!!
Hello my fellow Cannagraphers, today we have a big annonse to make:
We have identified our first mamas! The Bois are taking their time showing some cojones, but that's only normal when you're facing the death sentence. Here's the first Turban female (hehe get it? Murban, Durban, Turban... 1,2,3? Cause it's three leaved? No? Fine, still, I'll call it Turban to differenciate it from Durban)
It ended up being the tall one as I had hoped, now I'm crossing all appendages in the hopes the li'l Turban is a male, so I can lock in the trait.
Here is the first Jamama (Jamaican mother)
We have identified our first mamas! The Bois are taking their time showing some cojones, but that's only normal when you're facing the death sentence. Here's the first Turban female (hehe get it? Murban, Durban, Turban... 1,2,3? Cause it's three leaved? No? Fine, still, I'll call it Turban to differenciate it from Durban)
It ended up being the tall one as I had hoped, now I'm crossing all appendages in the hopes the li'l Turban is a male, so I can lock in the trait.
Here is the first Jamama (Jamaican mother)
Seems like all the Jammies might be mommas, but I'm still waiting on the pistil to show up... 
Anywhoo on an unrelated side, here's a picture of a Destroyed Durban at day 76 from seed under 12/12 now 3-4weeks 11/13 and it doesn't look like it's finishing any time soon
Anywhoo on an unrelated side, here's a picture of a Destroyed Durban at day 76 from seed under 12/12 now 3-4weeks 11/13 and it doesn't look like it's finishing any time soon
