Criminal indictments coming for Trump.

['Boogieman']

Fixed that for you.

Socialism is the next step to communism, so thanks for making my point.

 

['Boogieman']

i've already explained why the trump movement is a proto-fascist movement til i'm blue in the face. hell, i've even posted short form documentaries for those who do not want to read about it. hell, i've even posted clips from tucker carlson's own mouth saying the republicans are moving fascist... and you reply to none of it lol.

also is your proof that the trump movement isn't fascist because black people got money? ah yes - fascism is when you make minority groups less financially secure.

You posted propaganda.

 

[GOT_BUD?]

Socialism is the next step to communism, so thanks for making my point.

Really? Maybe you should take a look at the former communist countries that are now socialist democracies.

But then that wouldn't fit your worldview, would it?

 

[Cannavore]

Bernie is not marxist or even communist

nor is he a socialist lol which is why i was confused why you even brought him up when i mentioned marx's critiques of capitalism have become a reality we all now live.

just a looney talking about free shit (cough taxpayer dollars)

by very definition, if it's funded by the taxpayers then it isn't free lol.

but he was the next step to getting there in your little playbook.

bernie was the guy who would have saved capitalism just as FDR did 100+ years ago with social democratic political reformation. if the ruling class is going to smear non socialists as socialists then fuck it, might as well just support actual socialists lol.

not sure if you know this but the elites smeared FDR as a socialist, commie, traitor, etc too. it's literally the same playbook used over and over and it somehow still tricks people.

 

[Cannavore]

Deceptive, you are comparing 2016 to 2020.

bernie would have won 2016 and potentially would have had the momentum behind him for 2020. and if bernie was president in 2020 when covid hit, 10's of millions of americans wouldn't have lost their income, health care, homes, life savings, jobs, etc from attempting to deal with all this. covid shined a light on the problems of our system, problems which bernie addressed better than anyone else in his platform, and the democrat neolibs did absolutely nothing to combat this. the dems couldn't even give everyone the amount in stimmy money that they promised lmao.

 

[Cannavore]

Socialism is the next step to communism, so thanks for making my point.

not really but heres a real question lol. i don't get why so many working class righties think communism is so bad?

labor would run the economy, not the rich coastal elites
and there's no federal government... aren't those some things ya'll would get down with? lol

 

[Cannavore]

On Fox News Thursday, Tucker Carlson and his guest, right-wing talk radio host Jesse Kelly, openly speculated that Republicans may soon get tired of "following the rules" and "pick a fascist" to lead the party.

"I think you make a really solid point about the sadness and powerlessness that people feel in the face of this," said Carlson. "And some people are just going to say, why should I follow the rules? Why should I be a good citizen if they don't have to follow the rules? I mean things kind of break down at some point, don't they?"

"They will break down, they are breaking down, Tucker," said Kelly. "I've said this before, and I'm telling you, I worry that I'm right, the right is going to pick a fascist within 10 to 20 years, because they're not going to be the only ones on the outs. There's 60, 70 million of us, we're not a tiny minority. And if we're all going to be treated like criminals, and all subject to every single law while antifa, Black Lives Matter guys go free and Hunter Biden goes free, the right's going to take drastic measures."


https://twitter.com/bad_takes/status/1375251130586963968

KELLY: The right is going to pick a fascist within 10 to 20 years --
CARLSON: Right. That's right.
KELLY: -- Because they're not going to be the only one -- the only ones on the outs.




is this propaganda too boogie?

 

[Cannavore]

I was thinking the same. Only in his country. He/she doesn't live in America.

i might be confusing him with "nice fella" but either way, the dudes posts are a red flag to me.

a far rightie nationalist who hates capitalism.... hmmmmmmmmmm LOL

 

[bigtacofarmer]

Bernie 2024

 

['Boogieman']

Really? Maybe you should take a look at the former communist countries that are now socialist democracies.

But then that wouldn't fit your worldview, would it?

Lol, like who China? Where anyone against the government goes to a reeducation camp or dissappears (whistleblowers during the beginning of covid for example) and they now have a dictator (thats basically what it is) for life? Or we can look at Venezuela, where they skipped the socialism part and went straight to dictatorship? No thanks.

 

['Boogieman']

not really but heres a real question lol. i don't get why so many working class righties think communism is so bad?

labor would run the economy, not the rich coastal elites
and there's no federal government... aren't those some things ya'll would get down with? lol

Communism has killed more then the Nazis, but I already know what your going to say, "not my version of communism". What happens to those who disagree with it, education camps?

I don't agree with taking businesses from those who built it, if you want more pay cool vote for it, earn it, start a business of your own perhaps. But I will never agree with the Marx philosophy.

 

['Boogieman']

On Fox News Thursday, Tucker Carlson and his guest, right-wing talk radio host Jesse Kelly, openly speculated that Republicans may soon get tired of "following the rules" and "pick a fascist" to lead the party.

"I think you make a really solid point about the sadness and powerlessness that people feel in the face of this," said Carlson. "And some people are just going to say, why should I follow the rules? Why should I be a good citizen if they don't have to follow the rules? I mean things kind of break down at some point, don't they?"

"They will break down, they are breaking down, Tucker," said Kelly. "I've said this before, and I'm telling you, I worry that I'm right, the right is going to pick a fascist within 10 to 20 years, because they're not going to be the only ones on the outs. There's 60, 70 million of us, we're not a tiny minority. And if we're all going to be treated like criminals, and all subject to every single law while antifa, Black Lives Matter guys go free and Hunter Biden goes free, the right's going to take drastic measures."


https://twitter.com/bad_takes/status/1375251130586963968

KELLY: The right is going to pick a fascist within 10 to 20 years --
CARLSON: Right. That's right.
KELLY: -- Because they're not going to be the only one -- the only ones on the outs.




is this propaganda too boogie?

It's a talk show. While I usually agree with Tucker, not the case with this or his views on cannabis.

 

[Amynamous]

Really? Smoking pot is more important than healthcare for everybody? More important than trying to alter the course of climate change? More important than investing in our nation's children? More important than investing into our country?

The 3.5 Trillion dollar bill isn't the homerun you're trying to claim it is. The original 10 trillion dollar one was. And while the Dems are trying to at least get on base, two assholes are standing at the plate waving to the lobbyists in the crowd at pitches whiz by ensuring the Dems lose the game entirely.

The only hope the Dems had at success in 2022 was making everybody's lives tangibly better.

In 1938 Democrats controlled 80% of the House, 80% of the Senate, and the White House. Why? Because they were making people's lives batter in a way they could see. We are in the midst of our generation's "great depression", and 2 people are more concerned about an incredibly small group of donors instead of the nation as a whole.

You put words in my mouth and go off on a wild tangent. Lol Again. Lol
If the dems had a bigger majority in the senate, then they could do whatever they wanted. They don’t. It’s an even split, and they are beyond lucky to have that. Manchin has made it abundantly clear that he’s not going along with the progressive’s plan. They should listen and take what they can get while they can and move on to other issues. Progressives can make their case to the American people and if people really support their ideas, then the people will vote them in and give them a super majority. That’s not where we are right now.
Big majorities =big plans.
Small majorities=small plans.

 

[Amynamous]

It's a talk show. While I usually agree with Tucker, not the case with this or his views on cannabis.

Speaking of Tucker, i just read that he said the trump administration had the FBI run the J6 insurrection from behind the scenes.
Sounds like even more treason, huh?

I wonder if the J6 committee is going to bring him in for questioning?

 

['Boogieman']

Speaking of Tucker, i just read that he said the trump administration had the FBI run the J6 insurrection from behind the scenes.
Sounds like even more treason, huh?

I wonder if the J6 committee is going to bring him in for questioning?

First the president or the administration doesn't direct the FBI. Second he said that the FBI tried to incite Trump supporters at the Capitol, I don't believe he said the Trump administration had the FBI do so and I watched it, what is your source? Honestly im sick of hearing about January 6th, Trump has my vote come 2024.

 

[Amynamous]

First the president or the administration doesn't direct the FBI. Second he said that the FBI tried to incite Trump supporters at the Capitol, I don't believe he said the Trump administration had the FBI do so and I watched it, what is your source? Honestly im sick of hearing about January 6th, Trump has my vote come 2024.

Really?! Because i can swear the redhats were screaming for four years that President Obama directed the FBI to spy on trump and his campaign.
Can’t have it both ways.
And you’re going to be hearing about J6 for a very, very long time.
It’s kind of a really, really big deal.

 

[Cannavore]

Communism has killed more then the Nazis, but I already know what your going to say, "not my version of communism". What happens to those who disagree with it, education camps?

well i dont really want to comment on this because i don't agree with anything the ussr did. and secondly yes its not just a meme lol, the USSR for example were basically fascists. nothing that i understand of socialism, communism, or marxism (not saying im a pro lol) has anything to do with what the soviet union did. the USSR was a bloated totalitarian beaurocracy.... being a leftist means pretty much the opposite of that..... anti capitalist, anti hierarchy, etc.

I don't agree with taking businesses from those who built it, if you want more pay cool vote for it, earn it, start a business of your own perhaps. But I will never agree with the Marx philosophy.

the common socialist argument is that you didn't necessarily make that business on your own or from scratch or w/e.... so why should you reap all the benefits? simply because you're the undemocratic "owner" of the business?

to simplify the argument let's say you're a capitalist business owner and your business is making furniture... the capitalist provides the capital, the landlord provides the land, and the workers provide the labor.... of the 3 types of people involved in this transaction, it's usually the worker that gets the shaft, right? no worker is paid the full value of what they produce, otherwise there would be no profit/surplus for the capitalist. so okay, but this also isnt taking into account the labor that was required by workers prior to your business even existing in making the tools and materials your workers are going to use to turn those raw materials into a sofa or a bed or whatever. these workers who are doing all the work for you aren't going to see any of the benefits of their labor but instead a wage aka a portion of the full value of their labor. plus those workers have no democratic say in the way the business is done. Since most of us and most of the world are indeed workers aka labor, i simply don't understand how labor would want to cuck itself in such a way that you're willfully under the tyrannical control of another private individual. in the workplace the worker has no say in anything except for what they're told to do day in an day out.

i think this is why we see less and less workforce participation especially amongst young individuals like ourselves. they have no stake in anything and all their income goes to living expenses. They're underpaid, underappreciated, working longer hours for wages after you adjust for inflation aren't any different than what people in the 80s were making etc. there's a measurable effect when you give workers something to work for - ie stake in ownership or a democratic say in how the business operates, people start to actually give a fuck (imagine that!). we don't have to get rid of markets to do any of this. in effect it's basically a updated form of capitalism to democratically include labor to the point where they should be the ones making the decisions (democratically).

i don't really see how anyone, especially someone of a working class background can deny or be against what i just said in the second part of my post unless you get into past genocide and murder which isn't in my vocabulary. nor does modern libertarian socialism have anything to do with the soviet union lol. "leftists" who are fans of the soviet union are known online as "tankies"... these people are vehemently hated amongst the libertarian left and democratic socialist circles. so not only do righties like you hate these people, i hate them too and so do most contemporary lefties.

 

[Cannavore]

McAuliffe loses VA race. A state Biden won by 10% of the vote.

vote blue no matter who hahahahahahahah.

watch the media blame bernie or the progressives or basically anyone but themselves for this.

 

[h.h.]

well i dont really want to comment on this because i don't agree with anything the ussr did. and secondly yes its not just a meme lol, the USSR for example were basically fascists. nothing that i understand of socialism, communism, or marxism (not saying im a pro lol) has anything to do with what the soviet union did. the USSR was a bloated totalitarian beaurocracy.... being a leftist means pretty much the opposite of that..... anti capitalist, anti hierarchy, etc.


the common socialist argument is that you didn't necessarily make that business on your own or from scratch or w/e.... so why should you reap all the benefits? simply because you're the undemocratic "owner" of the business?

to simplify the argument let's say you're a capitalist business owner and your business is making furniture... the capitalist provides the capital, the landlord provides the land, and the workers provide the labor.... of the 3 types of people involved in this transaction, it's usually the worker that gets the shaft, right? no worker is paid the full value of what they produce, otherwise there would be no profit/surplus for the capitalist. so okay, but this also isnt taking into account the labor that was required by workers prior to your business even existing in making the tools and materials your workers are going to use to turn those raw materials into a sofa or a bed or whatever. these workers who are doing all the work for you aren't going to see any of the benefits of their labor but instead a wage aka a portion of the full value of their labor. plus those workers have no democratic say in the way the business is done. Since most of us and most of the world are indeed workers aka labor, i simply don't understand how labor would want to cuck itself in such a way that you're willfully under the tyrannical control of another private individual. in the workplace the worker has no say in anything except for what they're told to do day in an day out.

i think this is why we see less and less workforce participation especially amongst young individuals like ourselves. they have no stake in anything and all their income goes to living expenses. They're underpaid, underappreciated, working longer hours for wages after you adjust for inflation aren't any different than what people in the 80s were making etc. there's a measurable effect when you give workers something to work for - ie stake in ownership or a democratic say in how the business operates, people start to actually give a fuck (imagine that!). we don't have to get rid of markets to do any of this. in effect it's basically a updated form of capitalism to democratically include labor to the point where they should be the ones making the decisions (democratically).

i don't really see how anyone, especially someone of a working class background can deny or be against what i just said in the second part of my post unless you get into past genocide and murder which isn't in my vocabulary. nor does modern libertarian socialism have anything to do with the soviet union lol. "leftists" who are fans of the soviet union are known online as "tankies"... these people are vehemently hated amongst the libertarian left and democratic socialist circles. so not only do righties like you hate these people, i hate them too and so do most contemporary lefties.

Businessmen are cool. But what we have are hoarders. Hoarding the land along with our natural resources. They waste what god put here for all. They claim that right because they know how to manipulate money. Capitalism feeds their way of corruption.

 

[Cannavore]

if businessmen were cool we wouldn't be in the situation we're in now. if all capitalists were clones of Dan Price I wouldn't have a problem. but that's not the world we live in. it's time to take their power and abolish billionaires.