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Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

  • yes, gimme

    Votes: 29 31.9%
  • not yet

    Votes: 15 16.5%
  • no way

    Votes: 47 51.6%

  • Total voters
    91
  • Poll closed .

flylowgethigh

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They lied about the source of this covid. They knew it was coming, and was timed for the US election. This was a big plot.

It wasn't so bad about the jabs coming out, and people being scared into taking them, even with the .guv paying for the BS, and the congress critters getting richer off he MRNA stawk. Grifters are gonna grift, and healthcare is gonna take up a lot more of the GDP pie. What was inexcusable was forcing people to take the experimental, non-recourse to the manufacturer jab. You just don't force people to take a drug. Fucking wrong. And people have died or gotten very sick. Where is freedom and liberty anymore?

When the smoke clears someday, I hope there are some serious consequences for the ones behind these events of the last few years.

That is IF the smoke ever clears, as there are other huge issues looming.
 

Gry

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as is often said by icmag's own "fact checker" ... bullshit

Years of advance research


The research that helped to develop vaccines against the new coronavirus didn’t start in January. For years, researchers had been paying attention to related coronaviruses, which cause SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) and MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome), and some had been working on new kinds of vaccine — an effort that has now paid off spectacularly.
“A lot went into the mRNA platform that we have today,” says immunologist Akiko Iwasaki at the Yale School of Medicine in New Haven, Connecticut, who has worked on nucleic-acid vaccines — those based on lengths of DNA or RNA — for more than two decades. The basic research on DNA vaccines began at least 25 years ago, and RNA vaccines have benefited from 10–15 years of strong research, she says, some aimed at developing cancer vaccines. The approach has matured just at the right time; five years ago, the RNA technology would not have been ready.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03626-1#content

For those who just can't do without the bullshit, we do have the claims of Malone, who would have the world believe he did it all alone.
 

troutman

Seed Whore
:woohoo:

fetch
 

BudToaster

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Bullshit.
First, it actually has to be bullshit. It has been used successfully in trials.
Of course you won’t read it, but here some literature. There’s more, but I won’t bother.

https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/c...o-treat-cancer

thank-you for the link ... it is all future tense

But no mRNA cancer vaccine has been approved by the US Food and Drug Administration for use either alone or with other cancer treatments.

lots of hopes and dreams. just because a tek enters trials does not mean it works or is approved. it is disingenuous to suggest otherwise. most failed trials are never reported as failed.
 

h.h.

Active member
Veteran
thank-you for the link ... it is all future tense



lots of hopes and dreams. just because a tek enters trials does not mean it works or is approved. it is disingenuous to suggest otherwise. most failed trials are never reported as failed.

Ask the Wright brothers. They failed too.
The statement was about cancer trials where it does show promise. I think I read 2008. Eleven years running. Individualizing the treatment seems to be the hurdle. I’m sure I’m simplifying it. However Gry’s statement was true as written.
Yes . There a lot of hopes and dreams backed by years of education and research. You read an article somewhere. Who should I listen to?
 

mexcurandero420

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Years of advance research


The research that helped to develop vaccines against the new coronavirus didn’t start in January. For years, researchers had been paying attention to related coronaviruses, which cause SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) and MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome), and some had been working on new kinds of vaccine — an effort that has now paid off spectacularly.
“A lot went into the mRNA platform that we have today,” says immunologist Akiko Iwasaki at the Yale School of Medicine in New Haven, Connecticut, who has worked on nucleic-acid vaccines — those based on lengths of DNA or RNA — for more than two decades. The basic research on DNA vaccines began at least 25 years ago, and RNA vaccines have benefited from 10–15 years of strong research, she says, some aimed at developing cancer vaccines. The approach has matured just at the right time; five years ago, the RNA technology would not have been ready.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03626-1#content

For those who just can't do without the bullshit, we do have the claims of Malone, who would have the world believe he did it all alone.

Works fine when you dreams probably, but not in daily life as the Belgium statistics show.
 

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Gry

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Works fine when you dreams probably, but not in daily life as the Belgium statistics show.
You must feel like you have an absolutely excellent grasp of the situation.
I have had the privilege of being around real well educated people on the
subject, and not a one of them sounded at all like you.

Would you care to share with us how it is you feel that you have a stronger or better understanding of the subject than others?
It is odd that I have yet to hear you say anything al all that would lead me too think that might be the case.
I do believe it is considered normal to cite the source of any studies one does refer to.
Were you of an impression that mentioning an unnamed study in Belgium would lend you credibility ?

My spouse was a MD/MPH, twenty fucking years ago, she would tell of god damned nightmare like programs
that big pharma had planned for us.
What she spoke of was a source of nightmares for me, and it has been tragic to have watched what she spoke of
unfold before me.
We are only at the onset of this crap, and it will go forward from here.
I have found it sad that not a one of the many so called opposition has yet to even discuss such a program.

I will say it again, my spouse spoke to me of forced vaccination programs that have already been
put into place, and it did not sound at all good to me than and less so now, but I have yet to even see such
things mentioned here.

Have no idea how old you are, but I am old enough that I do not worry about myself so much any more,
my concern is for children of the future, and what the quality of life will be like for them.
What kind of opportunities will they have ?

Let me ask you a question, what do you know of involuntary vaccination programs ?
 

Hammerhead

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I get that some are scared of progress no matter what it is. These new types of vaccines aren't something they can understand well so it scares them. Picking out the bad parts of studies is easy. It never ends the way they think they do. We used to get Heroin, Cocaine, and chloroform from the local store to treat anything. In 1895, Bayer found that, by boiling morphine for several hours, they could create diacetylmorphine as an over-the-counter drug under the trademark name Heroin.

A reiteration is warranted, HCQ is not even close to being on the same plane as the others however, it is interesting to observe how, sometimes, in crises, the quick dependence on the easiest available remedy supersedes better judgment.
 

dramamine

Well-known member
I get that some are scared of progress no matter what it is. These new types of vaccines aren't something they can understand well so it scares them. Picking out the bad parts of studies is easy. It never ends the way they think they do. We used to get Heroin, Cocaine, and chloroform from the local store to treat anything. In 1895, Bayer found that, by boiling morphine for several hours, they could create diacetylmorphine as an over-the-counter drug under the trademark name Heroin.

A reiteration is warranted, HCQ is not even close to being on the same plane as the others however, it is interesting to observe how, sometimes, in crises, the quick dependence on the easiest available remedy supersedes better judgment.

You ought to quote the source when you copy-paste stuff, instead of passing it off as your own words.
 

Hammerhead

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ICMag Donor
Veteran
You ought to quote the source when you copy-paste stuff, instead of passing it off as your own words.

lol, that's common stuff dude. We all know posting sources won't change any opinions umungsts you dumbasses. Go look it up yourself.
 

Hammerhead

Disabled Farmer
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Go look up the word .

edit: and thanks for calling me a dumbass for no reason at all.

You obviously have no clue what that even means. What I posted was not plagiarism dumbass. Trying to insult my intelligence by claiming plagiarism, yep you didn't do anything. The same typical shit you guys can't seem to notice.
 

dramamine

Well-known member
You obviously have no clue what that even means. What I posted was not plagiarism dumbass. Trying to insult my intelligence by claiming plagiarism, yep you didn't do anything. The same typical shit you guys can't seem to notice.

I'm just one guy, guy. And you cut and pasted what you posted from an article in the Mumbai Mirror.
 

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