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Leetdood's growing struggles
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Basically got lucky just following lcs soilless mix, ceramic metal halide 400w bulbs, cold concrete basement. Thanks again to @Burn1 for
https://www.icmag.com/threads/organics-for-beginners.48694/
https://www.icmag.com/threads/organics-for-beginners.48694/
Forgive my shitty plants and pictures
But here is goji margy #3, a male pheno. The daddy likely will get culled since the clones are doing well. Probably take photos first for posterity.
It has a lime/lemon raunchy stem rub. It's pinesoul x frozen margy so that tracks. Frozen margy is a mouthful but it's all sour chem and og.
I have dragon hammer, doc d made it and it's nobody's nursery selection, so I told them I might pair the two. Gonna send doc d these pics. It's nice and robust for a heirloom Mashup. Very sharp and raunchy smell, exactly like I wanted. So gonna keep the best parts of pinesoul and all the other cultivars involved. But have it be robust and good for production. Possibly wash, even. Still need to wash DH after a solid run.
But here is goji margy #3, a male pheno. The daddy likely will get culled since the clones are doing well. Probably take photos first for posterity.
It has a lime/lemon raunchy stem rub. It's pinesoul x frozen margy so that tracks. Frozen margy is a mouthful but it's all sour chem and og.
I have dragon hammer, doc d made it and it's nobody's nursery selection, so I told them I might pair the two. Gonna send doc d these pics. It's nice and robust for a heirloom Mashup. Very sharp and raunchy smell, exactly like I wanted. So gonna keep the best parts of pinesoul and all the other cultivars involved. But have it be robust and good for production. Possibly wash, even. Still need to wash DH after a solid run.
Trying to describe what a legal (white) market looks like to homie in Ukraine. It's really an odd situation, where growers proclaim stuff like "Make Weed Illegal Again."
Humidity seems to be staying above 50% so I'm gonna chop the plants in a short bit, hang dry, and try and manage the temperature to drop a bit. Made 2 buckets feed to continue watering and cutting plants back after I do that.
Recommended homie grow the following:
Fems
Airlock (as24 x trop cherry)
Bolo runtz x permanent marker
(Rainbow belts x apple Mintz) x trop cherry
Regs, 10
Papaya punch x peach ringz x strawberry meltshake
To get an idea of what some view as "cutting edge" in this market. Any thoughts? He's already grown some stardawg, i95, Mac, alien sourz, and AnB s1s. But I'd love some feedback on what you guys think is prevalent in this legal market that's worth growing out. Ukraine might be getting more dank!
Humidity seems to be staying above 50% so I'm gonna chop the plants in a short bit, hang dry, and try and manage the temperature to drop a bit. Made 2 buckets feed to continue watering and cutting plants back after I do that.
Recommended homie grow the following:
Fems
Airlock (as24 x trop cherry)
Bolo runtz x permanent marker
(Rainbow belts x apple Mintz) x trop cherry
Regs, 10
Papaya punch x peach ringz x strawberry meltshake
To get an idea of what some view as "cutting edge" in this market. Any thoughts? He's already grown some stardawg, i95, Mac, alien sourz, and AnB s1s. But I'd love some feedback on what you guys think is prevalent in this legal market that's worth growing out. Ukraine might be getting more dank!
I took a lot of pics so it's a 2 parter
4 to 5 hours after end of day 66 (so day 67 but only those few hours of darkness)
This is strawberry gary
As predicted it was difficult and tricky but do able to extract the plants. I have to re arrange the plants in the tent later but they're all stable as is. Tried to get some whole plant shots etc in there but I'm not good at taking photos with my tablet camera.
Very good quality, swell, fade
Not amazing yield but it's good by my standards surely, with only a 1 gal plastic pot. I find the plastic pots sometimes let me go a bit smaller in volume and have fast dryback where you can kinda feed hard or crop steer. Not sure how to describe that otherwise. But you can see the results right?
4 to 5 hours after end of day 66 (so day 67 but only those few hours of darkness)
This is strawberry gary
As predicted it was difficult and tricky but do able to extract the plants. I have to re arrange the plants in the tent later but they're all stable as is. Tried to get some whole plant shots etc in there but I'm not good at taking photos with my tablet camera.
Very good quality, swell, fade
Not amazing yield but it's good by my standards surely, with only a 1 gal plastic pot. I find the plastic pots sometimes let me go a bit smaller in volume and have fast dryback where you can kinda feed hard or crop steer. Not sure how to describe that otherwise. But you can see the results right?
Both sherb (x2) and as24 come down in three days. So that'll be half the tent crossed off and done. Smoke samples next, of course.
For now as I mentioned I try and manage the environment and continue the cutting back. Hope to make that list I mentioned.
Also need to prep for upcoming washes
For now as I mentioned I try and manage the environment and continue the cutting back. Hope to make that list I mentioned.
Also need to prep for upcoming washes
dood i feel you on the drying process! something i don't rush and just keep parameters in check. if it snaps it goes in the bag. don't like when it is drying too fast 
vacuum bags with boveda work for me and jar or ziploc for temporary storage
tempted to try those terploc bags to check if there's any notable difference 
do you trim dry or wet? what's your storage method?
thanks for delivering blasts from the past, first successful organic grows
do you plan to flower the males and do some stress testing?
will end the lengthy reply here
happy growing dood!
vacuum bags with boveda work for me and jar or ziploc for temporary storagetempted to try those terploc bags to check if there's any notable difference do you trim dry or wet? what's your storage method?
thanks for delivering blasts from the past, first successful organic grows
do you plan to flower the males and do some stress testing?
will end the lengthy reply here
happy growing dood!
dood i feel you on the drying process! something i don't rush and just keep parameters in check. if it snaps it goes in the bag. don't like when it is drying too fast
do you trim dry or wet? what's your storage method?
thanks for delivering blasts from the past, first successful organic grows
do you plan to flower the males and do some stress testing?
will end the lengthy reply here
happy growing dood!
The Grove (terploc) bags work amazing but
A) you need to be *extremely* careful with the zippers. They will tear.
B) I realized I had the tendency to seal them up like a ziploc. But how they work is they regulate the internal environment via the material, in theory. So what's the point if you're gonna squish all the bud together and restrict air flow? Gotta leave the buds a little loose, is what it seems like.
C) I probably need hygrometers.
I trim dry, because in my experience wet trimming is inferior. It's easier, I guess, but the result is essentially fresh open wounds all over the bud. Not saying you can't do that, do what works for you, you know? Facilities do it. But I definitely prefer to hang whole plant dry when possible. Sometimes a stalk breaks off or you gotta cut a plant into sections, that's ok. But hang whole plant dry is generally what seems to be craft standard.
Just means you need a careful steady or gentle hand for trimming.
I do plan to flower the males but right now what's important is finishing the immediate jobs, overgrown plants etc. I made the clone list, seems like underdog and some sour apple jaxx need cloning at least. Double Burnout #2 too it looks like. But there's 16 pairs (or more each) of rooted clones. And something like 17 types rooting. So overall lots getting done, just gotta make sure every plant is properly backed up. Don't want to start flower and find out something was overlooked in a rush.
Also something someone said to me, regarding trimming or drying or curing or whatever, we shoot for an ideal but it's gonna all smoke fine in the end. People used to dry on paper plates and in paper bags and sold that just fine. No need to get too particular if it's a waste of energy or effort.
great info on the terploc bags 
that's a lot of varieties, take your time for the best outcome
if you ever run out of post-it notes, get a cheap whiteboard they're so helpful, makes it easier to be organized and you'll end up making more notes than usual 
happy growing when the lights get back on!
that's a lot of varieties, take your time for the best outcome
if you ever run out of post-it notes, get a cheap whiteboard
they're so helpful, makes it easier to be organized and you'll end up making more notes than usual happy growing when the lights get back on!
Yeah the terploc/Grove bags are amazing but they're kind of fragile.
Like here
So you really have to grasp and carefully open the exact place where it opens. It's kind of a planned obsolescence thing. If they fixed this issue nobody would buy as many when they eventually rip or fail. My issue with Mason jars is when you take stuff out, it slowly dries with the extra exposure and head space. This doesn't really happen with Grove bags.
Just the annoying zip thing. Homie mentioned it to me.
Like here
So you really have to grasp and carefully open the exact place where it opens. It's kind of a planned obsolescence thing. If they fixed this issue nobody would buy as many when they eventually rip or fail. My issue with Mason jars is when you take stuff out, it slowly dries with the extra exposure and head space. This doesn't really happen with Grove bags.
Just the annoying zip thing. Homie mentioned it to me.
Watering plants and having plants dry generates humidity. But exchange with outside or the portable air conditioner will strip it. So at different times of the year it's easier or harder, depends on how many plants growing, how many lights running, how many plants drying. I had a lot of Corey hanging up for a while and that was a humidity sink helping hold the humidity at a general level. But I smoked almost all of that now. Just that, some mb15, and seed plants left that are already dry. Strawberry Gary and Not HP13 likely take 6 to 7 more days to dry. They really fattened and swelled up nicely with beautiful plump buds so I can tell it's a bit like the skunk #11 situation I described earlier. Longer rather than shorter dry.
Really setting off my allergies a bit but not like dragon hammer. Dragon Hammer was, 48 hours after chop (I dry in my bedroom where i smoke, chill, and sleep) I was just horribly stuffed up. Dragon Hammer is really great by the way. Nobody calls it a heady indica which I agree with, but he says more of a sour afghani in effect which I don't quite agree with. To me it's like sour in front, og afghani in back. Smoke enough and it's like that full body og/Corey/afghani effect. Like you're in stunlock mode. The plant itself flourished while half my flower run died when I was mostly immobile recovering from surgery. The stems, my lord. It was like towers of bud like how sour does, but og shaped buds. But with the afpak dad (I think afkansastan x x18?) Those stems, they held up all those stacked nodes of huge og style buds. Let me link my reel here.
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So it's really blurry til the end. But check out those stems. Those stems are like I wanna say a dime thick a long way up. Thats what I like. Og plants love to flop over on you, sour too. They're all like, "I CANT SUPPORT MYSELF IM ALREADY MAKING THE DANK! GIVE ME A HAND!" But dragon hammer,
it just grew itself and thrived where half the run straight up died. Basically didn't give a shit about any of the harsh conditions or pH lockout or off feed or irregular watering. None of that was on purpose I was just in recovery. But it really didn't care. Sherb too.
But yeah that lemon (citrus-y) cedar dank smell, it set my allergies off like nothing else. Rubbed off on my forearms too. Made them really swell and itch right away.
Mean gene has mentioned it about pollen but repeated exposure to this stuff can make you allergic and even get worse. So I guess be careful guys. I just take pills to deal with it but try and not like inhale pollen or get too much resin on myself. Was defoliating with my other cousin this one time and he got hives so bad right away.
Smoking cured or dry bud isn't as bad, it seems to be worst with the wet resin for some reason. I saw someone say they use honey somehow to either protect or get it off, I don't remember. I got some on myself adjusting plants yesterday on top of harvesting and honestly I should've done a scrub down cause I basically kept itching all day and night at resin spots on my arms.
Really setting off my allergies a bit but not like dragon hammer. Dragon Hammer was, 48 hours after chop (I dry in my bedroom where i smoke, chill, and sleep) I was just horribly stuffed up. Dragon Hammer is really great by the way. Nobody calls it a heady indica which I agree with, but he says more of a sour afghani in effect which I don't quite agree with. To me it's like sour in front, og afghani in back. Smoke enough and it's like that full body og/Corey/afghani effect. Like you're in stunlock mode. The plant itself flourished while half my flower run died when I was mostly immobile recovering from surgery. The stems, my lord. It was like towers of bud like how sour does, but og shaped buds. But with the afpak dad (I think afkansastan x x18?) Those stems, they held up all those stacked nodes of huge og style buds. Let me link my reel here.
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So it's really blurry til the end. But check out those stems. Those stems are like I wanna say a dime thick a long way up. Thats what I like. Og plants love to flop over on you, sour too. They're all like, "I CANT SUPPORT MYSELF IM ALREADY MAKING THE DANK! GIVE ME A HAND!" But dragon hammer,
it just grew itself and thrived where half the run straight up died. Basically didn't give a shit about any of the harsh conditions or pH lockout or off feed or irregular watering. None of that was on purpose I was just in recovery. But it really didn't care. Sherb too. But yeah that lemon (citrus-y) cedar dank smell, it set my allergies off like nothing else. Rubbed off on my forearms too. Made them really swell and itch right away.
Mean gene has mentioned it about pollen but repeated exposure to this stuff can make you allergic and even get worse. So I guess be careful guys. I just take pills to deal with it but try and not like inhale pollen or get too much resin on myself. Was defoliating with my other cousin this one time and he got hives so bad right away.
Smoking cured or dry bud isn't as bad, it seems to be worst with the wet resin for some reason. I saw someone say they use honey somehow to either protect or get it off, I don't remember. I got some on myself adjusting plants yesterday on top of harvesting and honestly I should've done a scrub down cause I basically kept itching all day and night at resin spots on my arms.
So we circle back around to the title... "growing struggles"
Sometimes you get a sudden slap in the face from reality. This is why we must always be ready to accept new information and improve.
Farmer joe and slownickel always been promoting that you cannot have healthy mother stock without a root callus. Slo basically says, it could be shitting out beast roots by the yard, if there's no callus, it's vulnerable.
Well
How does this clone look? OK for mother stock?
A big rough but wait, let's turn it around. Serious plant gore incoming, GORE ALERTTTTT
So I checked another one of the same line that had looked problematic, I decided fuck it, let's really check
Yikes
So you know, I guess im rooting with the end exposed to the side or bottom from now on for that callus. Yikes dog. That's fucked up and explains a lot about poor plant health. There's compounding factors but the bottom line is a plant can only protect itself if it has its defenses up. Don't leave this back door open!
Apologies for the grossness, just reality sometimes shows why we must improve and recognize where we are making mistakes.
Sometimes you get a sudden slap in the face from reality. This is why we must always be ready to accept new information and improve.
Farmer joe and slownickel always been promoting that you cannot have healthy mother stock without a root callus. Slo basically says, it could be shitting out beast roots by the yard, if there's no callus, it's vulnerable.
Well
How does this clone look? OK for mother stock?
A big rough but wait, let's turn it around. Serious plant gore incoming, GORE ALERTTTTT
So I checked another one of the same line that had looked problematic, I decided fuck it, let's really check
Yikes
So you know, I guess im rooting with the end exposed to the side or bottom from now on for that callus. Yikes dog. That's fucked up and explains a lot about poor plant health. There's compounding factors but the bottom line is a plant can only protect itself if it has its defenses up. Don't leave this back door open!
Apologies for the grossness, just reality sometimes shows why we must improve and recognize where we are making mistakes.
that sounds like a strong reaction.
i always wear long sleeves when handling the plants. for harvest i also wear old, long clothes. tried the onesies you can get for renovation too but they can get hot inside after some hours. thinking about it maybe a pair of working onesies and keep them in the washing rotation or a pair of multi-use kitchen gloves you always wear and desinfect them afterwards.
sorry just throwing in some ideas
stay safe dood!
by the way, did you try a gmo cut or cross and if so, what do you think about it?
sorry just throwing in some ideas
stay safe dood!
by the way, did you try a gmo cut or cross and if so, what do you think about it?
No need to be sorry mate, I appreciate the suggestions
Yes I've tried gmo several times, once from a poor run of it. A joke I made when I showed the pics from that run goes something like
"That's the worst gmo I've ever seen"
*captain jack accent* "Ah, but you know it's me!"
Works better with the pics
Current ranking goes something like
#1 irene
#2 gmo
#3 highway robbery #4 (stardawg meets ogkb pheno of i95 x chimera 3)
#4 Tahoe and Corey tied. Tahoe smokes better but Corey is a rockstar grower imo.
#5 undetermined, strawberry gary/sherb/anb/bubba Current contenders I feel. Really hard to decide without smoking a ton of it which I have the above except irene. Irene was just that fucking exceptional.
So my buddy asks me "what's a root callus?"
Well thats a good question
Here's a partial one on Tahoe. You can see it isn't completely scabbed over. I had to clear roots away so it's likely a lack of oxygen preventing a full callus.
Here's a full callus on as24. It's hard to picture but zoom and you can see it's completely scabbed over. I had to carefully break it apart to show, see here.
