kind of like malaria, except that it's contagious
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Coronavirus.. outlook
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Klompen
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So it really depends where it is in the body. There's many tissues that would quickly dispatch antibodies and clean house, but there are other tissues that might be harder to root out the virus cells. Then the next question becomes: Do the virus particles die on their own after a while even if the body misses a few? I think it would be nice to have a virologist weigh in.
St. Phatty
Active member
normally California is a net tax exporter, they pay more to the US gov than they get.
same for New York I think.
The country wants to know if they give back the money, will CA and NY take back nadler, schiff, pelosi, schumer?
coconutcurry
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St. Phatty
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it would tend to hide in locations that are avascular - no blood vessels.
e.g. the human cornea.
Medfinder
Chemon 91
California’s coronavirus outlook worse than researchers expected, as cases and deaths rise
Christopher Murray, director of the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, said Sunday that the institute’s latest projections suggested the nationwide fatality count would reach 137,000 by Aug. 4. The current total is nearly 80,000.
Researchers are now predicting that California could see more than 6,000 COVID-19 deaths by the end of August, up about 1,420 from projections they released last Monday. It’s the fifth-largest increase in projected death tolls among U.S. states, after Pennsylvania, Illinois, Arizona and Florida.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-11/californias-coronavirus-outlook-worse-than-researchers-expected-as-cases-deaths-rise%3f_amp=true
s - Countries - Death Rate - Symptoms - Incubation - Transmission - News
Coronavirus Cases:
4,373,821
view by country
Deaths:
294,327
Recovered:
1,621,591
ACTIVE CASES
2,457,903
Currently Infected Patients
2,411,576 (98%)
in Mild Condition
46,327 (2%)
Serious or Critical
Show Statistics
CLOSED CASES
1,915,918
Cases which had an outcome:
1,621,591 (85%)
Recovered / Discharged
294,327 (15%)
Deaths
Christopher Murray, director of the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, said Sunday that the institute’s latest projections suggested the nationwide fatality count would reach 137,000 by Aug. 4. The current total is nearly 80,000.
Researchers are now predicting that California could see more than 6,000 COVID-19 deaths by the end of August, up about 1,420 from projections they released last Monday. It’s the fifth-largest increase in projected death tolls among U.S. states, after Pennsylvania, Illinois, Arizona and Florida.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-11/californias-coronavirus-outlook-worse-than-researchers-expected-as-cases-deaths-rise%3f_amp=true
s - Countries - Death Rate - Symptoms - Incubation - Transmission - News
Coronavirus Cases:
4,373,821
view by country
Deaths:
294,327
Recovered:
1,621,591
ACTIVE CASES
2,457,903
Currently Infected Patients
2,411,576 (98%)
in Mild Condition
46,327 (2%)
Serious or Critical
Show Statistics
CLOSED CASES
1,915,918
Cases which had an outcome:
1,621,591 (85%)
Recovered / Discharged
294,327 (15%)
Deaths
coconutcurry
High
Anti shutdown protesters from rural area demonstrate in City, get infected and spread the virus on the countryside.
Congratulation!
https://www.salon.com/2020/05/12/mi...ral-areas-whitmer-tells-pence-in-leaked-call/
Congratulation!
https://www.salon.com/2020/05/12/mi...ral-areas-whitmer-tells-pence-in-leaked-call/
Cannabis extracts are showing potential in making people more resistant to the novel coronavirus, says an Alberta researcher leading a study.
After sifting through 400 cannabis strains, researchers at the University of Lethbridge are concentrating on about a dozen that show promising results in ensuring less fertile ground for the potentially lethal virus to take root, said biological scientist Dr. Igor Kovalchuk.
“A number of them have reduced the number of these (virus) receptors by 73 per cent, the chance of it getting in is much lower,” said Kovalchuk.
https://calgaryherald.com/cannabis/cannabis-shows-promise-blocking-coronavirus-infection-alberta-researcher/?fbclid=IwAR01dDbK4CtRYlLe5q505sHZDKEbISRcqfzptqk0E5JMIaLuy1QCWpuU6MM
After sifting through 400 cannabis strains, researchers at the University of Lethbridge are concentrating on about a dozen that show promising results in ensuring less fertile ground for the potentially lethal virus to take root, said biological scientist Dr. Igor Kovalchuk.
“A number of them have reduced the number of these (virus) receptors by 73 per cent, the chance of it getting in is much lower,” said Kovalchuk.
https://calgaryherald.com/cannabis/cannabis-shows-promise-blocking-coronavirus-infection-alberta-researcher/?fbclid=IwAR01dDbK4CtRYlLe5q505sHZDKEbISRcqfzptqk0E5JMIaLuy1QCWpuU6MM
Pathologists see a lot of damage in deceased corona patients.
The current coronavirus causes much more than just pneumonia. That confirms pathological research in people who died of or with Covid-19. The NOS discussed this with four pathologists. Their work normally consists of 99 percent research on the tissues of living patients. Now there is more focus on the so-called autopsies, among the deceased. That research should provide a better understanding of the disease.
"We come across a huge range of abnormalities. We see different patterns of damage in the lungs alone," says Jan von der Thüsen, chest pathologist at Erasmus MC. "We see broken alveoli, blood clots in large blood vessels, damage to the smallest capillaries and scar tissue."
The amount of blood clots in the pulmonary arteries is particularly striking, says Katrien Grünberg, professor of pathology at Radboud university medical center. These clots block blood vessels, so tissues behind them do not absorb enough oxygen. "Usually you have to look for clots, but now I often see several in one patient. It's really in your face."
Clean up virus
Grünberg also finds the combination of acute and chronic damage remarkable. "In the lungs, for example, you can see both fluid that has just leaked from the blood vessels and scar tissue that arose earlier. We don't yet understand what that means. Does the body not clear the virus? Does the body maintain the disease after the virus has disappeared? ?
Heart, kidneys and even the brain can also become inflamed. "Until now we do not find virus particles in the brain, but the immune cells in the brain are larger and more active than normal," says neuropathologist Marianna Bugiani of the Amsterdam UMC. "In addition, we find immune cells in the brain that do not normally occur there. This may explain why some patients temporarily lose their sense of smell, become confused or have difficulty moving."
Connection points for treatment
The purpose of the autopsies is to better understand how the coronavirus damages our body. "We want to know what happens in the tissues of patients and find clues for diagnostics and treatments," says Von der Thüsen.
New insights into the major disease often arise in contacts with colleagues from other disciplines, such as intensivists, infectiologists, radiologists and clotting specialists. "For example, if I show IC doctors my pictures and tell them that I see fluid in the lungs, I suddenly see that they understand why breathing is going the way it is," says Grünberg. "And when I show clots, my colleagues understand what that means for the treatment."
A webinar is currently being organized to share all knowledge nationally, says Joost Bart, pathologist at the UMCG and chairman of the Dutch association for pathology. He also has contact with colleagues in other European countries. "The insights they gain are very similar to what we learn here."
Permission
Currently, between 50 and 100 autopsies have been performed in the Netherlands, Von der Thüsen estimates. He takes stock of the investigations that are ongoing and is working on a proposal for more cooperation. The majority of patients died in ICU. Patients or their relatives must explicitly consent to the study.
The pathologists take extra precautions in corona patients. "We normally wear protective clothing, a surgical mask and splash goggles," says Grünberg. "Now we wear special mouth masks that are suitable for risky actions. Over that we wear a plastic cap that protects our entire face from splashes. We also avoid actions that can cause small droplets, such as rinsing instruments."
Residual damage
The pathologists still have many questions about the disease that is gripping the world. How do those blood clots form, for example? Von der Thüsen wants to investigate which immune cells and proteins are present in tissues to find out which inflammatory mechanisms are active in which phases of the disease. He hopes that this knowledge offers starting points for treatments.
Grünberg keeps thinking about the people who have been seriously ill and stuffy at home. "I wonder what their lungs look like. Do they recover completely or is there any residual damage? I think it is very important to also follow people who have become less seriously ill over time and to also examine them in the long term."
There are more questions like this. Why is it that the disease tends to be more serious in the elderly? How can we explain overweight as a risk factor? And do we see differences between people who were in IC for a long and short time? In short, the investigation is far from complete.
The current coronavirus causes much more than just pneumonia. That confirms pathological research in people who died of or with Covid-19. The NOS discussed this with four pathologists. Their work normally consists of 99 percent research on the tissues of living patients. Now there is more focus on the so-called autopsies, among the deceased. That research should provide a better understanding of the disease.
"We come across a huge range of abnormalities. We see different patterns of damage in the lungs alone," says Jan von der Thüsen, chest pathologist at Erasmus MC. "We see broken alveoli, blood clots in large blood vessels, damage to the smallest capillaries and scar tissue."
The amount of blood clots in the pulmonary arteries is particularly striking, says Katrien Grünberg, professor of pathology at Radboud university medical center. These clots block blood vessels, so tissues behind them do not absorb enough oxygen. "Usually you have to look for clots, but now I often see several in one patient. It's really in your face."
Clean up virus
Grünberg also finds the combination of acute and chronic damage remarkable. "In the lungs, for example, you can see both fluid that has just leaked from the blood vessels and scar tissue that arose earlier. We don't yet understand what that means. Does the body not clear the virus? Does the body maintain the disease after the virus has disappeared? ?
Heart, kidneys and even the brain can also become inflamed. "Until now we do not find virus particles in the brain, but the immune cells in the brain are larger and more active than normal," says neuropathologist Marianna Bugiani of the Amsterdam UMC. "In addition, we find immune cells in the brain that do not normally occur there. This may explain why some patients temporarily lose their sense of smell, become confused or have difficulty moving."
Connection points for treatment
The purpose of the autopsies is to better understand how the coronavirus damages our body. "We want to know what happens in the tissues of patients and find clues for diagnostics and treatments," says Von der Thüsen.
New insights into the major disease often arise in contacts with colleagues from other disciplines, such as intensivists, infectiologists, radiologists and clotting specialists. "For example, if I show IC doctors my pictures and tell them that I see fluid in the lungs, I suddenly see that they understand why breathing is going the way it is," says Grünberg. "And when I show clots, my colleagues understand what that means for the treatment."
A webinar is currently being organized to share all knowledge nationally, says Joost Bart, pathologist at the UMCG and chairman of the Dutch association for pathology. He also has contact with colleagues in other European countries. "The insights they gain are very similar to what we learn here."
Permission
Currently, between 50 and 100 autopsies have been performed in the Netherlands, Von der Thüsen estimates. He takes stock of the investigations that are ongoing and is working on a proposal for more cooperation. The majority of patients died in ICU. Patients or their relatives must explicitly consent to the study.
The pathologists take extra precautions in corona patients. "We normally wear protective clothing, a surgical mask and splash goggles," says Grünberg. "Now we wear special mouth masks that are suitable for risky actions. Over that we wear a plastic cap that protects our entire face from splashes. We also avoid actions that can cause small droplets, such as rinsing instruments."
Residual damage
The pathologists still have many questions about the disease that is gripping the world. How do those blood clots form, for example? Von der Thüsen wants to investigate which immune cells and proteins are present in tissues to find out which inflammatory mechanisms are active in which phases of the disease. He hopes that this knowledge offers starting points for treatments.
Grünberg keeps thinking about the people who have been seriously ill and stuffy at home. "I wonder what their lungs look like. Do they recover completely or is there any residual damage? I think it is very important to also follow people who have become less seriously ill over time and to also examine them in the long term."
There are more questions like this. Why is it that the disease tends to be more serious in the elderly? How can we explain overweight as a risk factor? And do we see differences between people who were in IC for a long and short time? In short, the investigation is far from complete.
Medfinder
Chemon 91
Worldometer
COVID-19 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC
Last updated: May 14, 2020, 13:15 GMT
Graphs - Countries - Death Rate - Symptoms - Incubation - Transmission - News
Coronavirus Cases:
4,464,255
view by country
Deaths:
299,410
Recovered:
1,678,246
ACTIVE CASES
2,486,599
Currently Infected Patients
2,440,825 (98%)
in Mild Condition
45,774 (2%)
Serious or Critical
Show Statistics
CLOSED CASES
1,977,656
Cases which had an outcome:
1,678,246 (85%)
Recovered / Discharged
299,410 (15%)
Deaths
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COVID-19 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC
Last updated: May 14, 2020, 13:15 GMT
Graphs - Countries - Death Rate - Symptoms - Incubation - Transmission - News
Coronavirus Cases:
4,464,255
view by country
Deaths:
299,410
Recovered:
1,678,246
ACTIVE CASES
2,486,599
Currently Infected Patients
2,440,825 (98%)
in Mild Condition
45,774 (2%)
Serious or Critical
Show Statistics
CLOSED CASES
1,977,656
Cases which had an outcome:
1,678,246 (85%)
Recovered / Discharged
299,410 (15%)
Deaths
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well isn't that misleading
so yeah, congratulations - thats what we call yellow journalism
sensationalist bullshit
I ask why do folks make personal attacks against the messenger of a message they do not agree with?
The doctor in this video experienced attacks on him and his family for speaking out.
So I ask is this designed to shut down the message?
Or is it Bigotry?
Great video medfinder!!!
This one is very logical. He makes many very important points.
