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Coronavirus.. outlook

Medfinder

Chemon 91
ast updated: April 17, 2020, 15:06 GMT
Graphs - Countries - Death Rate - Symptoms - Incubation - Transmission - News
Coronavirus Cases:
2,214,461
view by country
Deaths:
148,979
Recovered:
560,309
ACTIVE CASES
1,505,173
Currently Infected Patients
1,448,673 (96%)
in Mild Condition

56,500 (4%)
Serious or Critical
CLOSED CASES
709,288
Cases which had an outcome:
560,309 (79%)
Recovered / Discharged

148,979 (21%)
Deaths
 

St. Phatty

Active member
ast updated: April 17, 2020, 15:06 GMT
Graphs - Countries - Death Rate - Symptoms - Incubation - Transmission - News
Coronavirus Cases:
2,214,461
view by country
Deaths:
148,979

Why are some places counting Friday US deaths as 4000+ ?!

It's going at the rate of 2200 to 2600 a day right now.

If it really did go to 4000+ today then it will be 4000+ tomorrow, because systems involving 200 million people have MOMENTUM.

If they have a change in counting methods, they need to "break it out" in a different category.
 
M

moose eater

This was a single headline in the Anchorage Daily News online today;

'Alaska to Lift Ban on (Elective Surgeries), and Allow Take-Out Alcohol'

See, even in these times of uncertainty, there's good humor to be had.

Admittedly, the references had to do with a reaction to constitutional issues being raised when some in office saw this as an opportunity to deny surgical abortions.

The other reference in the headline was regarding Alaska's efforts to help or aid the proverbial local pub or bar, by allowing what's often referred to in Canada/Yukon Territory as 'off sales', where a drinking establishment can sell to-go packaged liquor, as well as serving drinks in the bar.

(In this case, they'll allow curb-side delivery/pick-up.. for the alcohol, not the abortions... More humor.... potentially.).

None the less, the headline was momentarily hilarious, in my opinion.
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
I dont have any answer why worldcovid tracking says what figures it says..

Right or wrong its info thats all...

The government's small business loan money is gone.

, the $349 billion emergency small business lending program officially tapped out. The Small Business Administration officially ran out of money for the Paycheck Protection Program, according to a message for lenders posted on the administration's website.

Negotiations on Capitol Hill have yet to generate a path forward to replenish the money, all as the US economy continues to stagger under the pressure of near-nationwide closures.

Glitches prevent $1,200 stimulus checks from reaching millions of Americans
Several million people who filed their taxes via H&R Block, TurboTax and other popular services were unable to get their payments. Some parents reported they didn’t get the $500 promised for their dependent children.

Many Americans woke up Wednesday expecting to find a payment of $1,200 or more from the U.S. government in their bank account, but instead they realized nothing had arrived yet — or the wrong amount was deposited. Parents of young children complained they did not receive the promised $500 check for their dependent children.

U.S. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has instructed the Internal Revenue Service to get payments out as fast as possible to help offset the pain of losing jobs and shutting down businesses, but numerous glitches — affecting filers who used tax preparers, parents of dependent children and people with 2019 tax returns still to be processed — are delaying payments and causing confusion.
 

watts

ohms
Veteran
A guy I know with 7 McDonald's restaurants got $200,000 per restaurant from the government. But no more money for small business...
 
M

moose eater

A not-too-surprising headline in the ADN this A.M. included that cannabis businesses would not be receiving any of the small business money.

My only surprise was that apparently -someone- thought they might, or there wouldn't have been a story.
 
M

moose eater

From MedScape this P.M.

re. reusing N95 masks

Edit: I neglected to include the link to the original article, and, as is typical of both Medscape's articles, and my not transferring embedded links to the articles, there's links within the article. So, if folks want additional, more thorough information, by all means, please see the original source:

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticl...417_MSCPEDIT&uac=348476AZ&impID=2350755&faf=1

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Exposing contaminated N95 respirators to vaporized hydrogen peroxide (VHP) or ultraviolet (UV) light appears to eliminate the SARS-CoV-2 virus from the material and preserve the integrity of the masks' fit for up to three uses, a National Institutes of Health (NIH) study shows.

Dry heat (70° C) was also found to eliminate the virus on masks but was effective for two uses instead of three.

Robert Fischer, PhD, with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases in Hamilton, Montana, and colleagues posted the findings on a preprint server on April 15. The paper has not yet been peer reviewed.

Four Methods Tested

Fischer and colleagues compared four methods for decontaminating the masks, which are designed for one-time use: UV radiation (260 – 285 nm); 70° C dry heat; 70% ethanol spray; and VHP.

For each method, the researchers compared the rate at which SARS-CoV-2 is inactivated on N95 filter fabric to that on stainless steel.

All four methods eliminated detectable SARS-CoV-2 virus from the fabric test samples, though the time needed for decontamination varied. VHP was the quickest, requiring 10 minutes. Dry heat and UV light each required approximately 60 minutes. Ethanol required an intermediate amount of time.

To test durability over three uses, the researchers treated intact, clean masks with the same decontamination method and assessed function via quantitative fit testing.

Volunteers from the Rocky Mountain laboratory wore the masks for 2 hours to test fit and seal.

The researchers found that masks that had been decontaminated with ethanol spray did not function effectively after decontamination, and they did not recommend use of that method.

By contrast, masks decontaminated with UV and VHP could be used up to three times and function properly. Masks decontaminated with dry heat could be used two times before function declined.

"Our results indicate that N95 respirators can be decontaminated and re-used in times of shortage for up to three times for UV and HPV, and up to two times for dry heat," the authors write. "However, utmost care should be given to ensure the proper functioning of the N95 respirator after each decontamination using readily available qualitative fit testing tools and to ensure that treatments are carried out for sufficient time to achieve desired risk-reduction."

Reassurance for Clinicians

The results will reassure clinicians, many of whom are already using these decontamination methods, Ravina Kullar, PharmD, MPH, an infectious disease expert with the Infectious Diseases Society of America, told Medscape Medical News.

Kullar, who is also an adjunct faculty member at the David Geffen School of Medicine of the University of California, Los Angeles, said the most widely used methods have been UV light and VPH.

UV light has been used for years to decontaminate rooms, she said. She also said that so far, supplies of hydrogen peroxide are adequate.

A shortcoming of the study, Kullar said, is that it tested the masks for only 2 hours, whereas in clinical practice, they are being worn for much longer periods.

After the study is peer reviewed, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) may update its recommendations, she said.

So far, she noted, the CDC has not approved any method for decontaminating masks, "but it has said that it does not object to using these sterilizers, disinfectants, devices, and air purifiers for effectively killing this virus."

Safe, multiple use of the masks is critical in the COVID-19 crisis, she said.

"We have to look at other mechanisms to keep these N95 respirators in use when there's such a shortage," she said.

Integrity of the fit was an important factor in the study.
"All healthcare workers have to go through a fitting to have that mask fitted appropriately. That's why these N95s are only approved for healthcare professionals, not the lay public," she said.

The study was supported by the National Institutes of Health; the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency; the University of California, Los Angeles; the US National Science Foundation; and the US Department of Defense.
 

St. Phatty

Active member
Boiling water kills the virus and doesn't hurt the N-95 mask.

Plus they have sterilizers at most hospitals.

Plus ovens @ 170 F kill it for sure.

They could do the sterilizing task with a cheap electric oven from the local electric supply.

The CDC is so hide-bound, they deserve to be de-funded like a lot of other organizations.

Why are the hospitals waiting for the CDC to tell them what to do, if they are ?!


Give Redfield the CDC guy and Trump a tent on LA Homeless Row.

Well they can have a home on Sonoma County's Homeless Row too - their summer home.
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
170 deg oven is what i am using

N95 then a cloth mask over the n95...
Googels hand sanitizer when out in public.

Lysol generic spray on mail packaging bags etc..
 
M

moose eater

I think I recall the study re. sterilization/reuse of masks being an NIH-sponsored one, but I'd have to go back to it to make sure.

We've been almost exclusively using 3 days of passive UV here in treating masks, and Lysol spray for reusing nitrile gloves.

A commonly known auto parts store has the mechanics' nitrile (black) gloves that are 2x's the thickness of the exam gloves (6 mil, versus 3 mil), thus even more durable for reuse, and fewer tears putting them on. They were on sale for $10.99/100 gloves, or 50 pairs.

Edit: At the bottom of the study I copied and pasted is this;

The study was supported by the National Institutes of Health; the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency; the University of California, Los Angeles; the US National Science Foundation; and the US Department of Defense.
 

Mr. J

Well-known member
I'm not doing any of that shit. This pussy ass virus ain't got nothing on me. I haven't been to the doctor in 19 years and I'm not about to break the streak, not even if I catch the Corona scratchy throat and sniffles.
 

St. Phatty

Active member
170 deg oven is what i am using

N95 then a cloth mask over the n95...
Googels hand sanitizer when out in public.

Lysol generic spray on mail packaging bags etc..

what kind of oven do you have ?

that's the lower limit on my oven too.

I left a TCL LX Alcatel 502 model cheapo smartphone in there for one full heating cycle - no problems.
 

Im'One

Active member


Its hard to believe a study when the number of false positives are not known.
Second, the way you die from the covid virus is horrific, alone, aurrounded by medical personnel who cannot touch or talk to you without a mask, strapped to a bed because you feel like you are drowning and are liable to fight in your feverish delusions, a tube down your throat...hell no.
Third we have a vaccine for the flu, that gives those of us who care a chance at preventing it.
Survivors of covid may have lasting lung damage and some will incur massive debt from spending weeks in icu.
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
Covid-19 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC
Last updated: April 18, 2020, 14:59 GMT
Graphs - Countries - Death Rate - Symptoms - Incubation - Transmission - News
Coronavirus Cases:
2,276,547
view by country
Deaths:
156,144
Recovered:
582,599
ACTIVE CASES
1,537,804
Currently Infected Patients
1,480,307 (96%)
in Mild Condition

57,497 (4%)
Serious or Critical
CLOSED CASES
738,743
Cases which had an outcome:
582,599 (79%)
Recovered / Discharged

156,144 (21%)
Deaths
 

ahortator

Well-known member
Veteran
Its hard to believe a study when the number of false positives are not known.
Second, the way you die from the covid virus is horrific, alone, aurrounded by medical personnel who cannot touch or talk to you without a mask, strapped to a bed because you feel like you are drowning and are liable to fight in your feverish delusions, a tube down your throat...hell no.
Third we have a vaccine for the flu, that gives those of us who care a chance at preventing it.
Survivors of covid may have lasting lung damage and some will incur massive debt from spending weeks in icu.

I really don't know. I posted it because it seems strange to watch on TV ICU, ER's and whole hospitals jamming. Such things don't happen with common flu.

Banks, corporations, businessmen and entrepreneurs want people continue working and spedning money as if nothing happens. As they hold the pan by the handle. I am sure this must enough serious to most governments agree to throw their economy to the trash in order to prevent massive death.

But all this is very strange. I really don't know.

About the massive debt for spending time in icu. We have not such problem here in Spain. And this is a much poorer and chaotic country than USA. We cannot understand from here why USA people have allowed such terrible situation. I remember Michael Moore's film Sicko and it is really terrible. I wonder why people allow that. Why people don't use the 2nd amendment to coquer such right. If the government don't give you a good health care system and education, taxes are a scam.
 
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