Coronavirus.. outlook

[St. Phatty]

how important is the zinc ?

what kind of zinc ?

Martenson takes Zinc Piccolinate. Good enough for me.

so what natural has zinc, besides licking all the galvanized water containers ?

Store your water in a galvanized container ?

I would be concerned about the form of zinc - zinc can be mildly neurotoxic.

guess I won't lick the galvanized container.

Piccolinate it is, maybe.

 

[Im'One]

I have been taking c and d pretty reglar and elderberry gummies when i can also take my CENTRUM silver...lol
I put zinc ointment in my nose when i rarely go out, even with the mask. I gargle twice a day with alcohol based listerine too. I want to smoke doobies but limit myself to gummies and bourbon...all the usual precautions of staying home and stripping outside when we do go out to get our supplies. Wash the groceries on the back porch and throw away all packaging into a burn pile with the gloves and wash masks and clthes. The laundryroom is the room off the back porch. Farm house design made sense...for covid.

 

[Teddybrae]

For me, Cruise Ships are one of the more disgusting facets of the Baby Boomers urge to spend their wealth before they die.

You will probably know most of the Covid cases in one state of Oz were brought on a Princess Line vessel which apparently had been incubating the disease for weeks while at sea. There's a Class Action brewing against the Shipping Line.

We were aware that there must be rubbish from these vessels ... but the figure you quote Moose is terrifying. And there are ... what ... hundreds of these Vessels floating around the 'beauty spots' of the world?

Oh well. The mighty Dollar rules ...

The Princess Cruise Line has cancelled their 2020 summer cruises to Alaska, due to the pandemic..

I guess Juneau will miss out on at least SOME of that (reported) 3 million lbs. of trash the cruise ship industry brought to Juneau last year..

 

[moose eater]

I'd been looking for a saw palmetto supplement for some time, then spotted one that also had 15 mg of zinc from various sources. Problem solved, with a bonus.

Only draw-back is purely aesthetic; the things are large black, rubber-looking, sealed/molded/formed capsules. If appearances were something that mattered, I'd envision these as being encrypted with a banner reading, "DEATH PILL'.

They look like some sort of Darth Vader suppository.

 

[moose eater]

For me, Cruise Ships are one of the more disgusting facets of the Baby Boomers urge to spend their wealth before they die.

You will probably know most of the Covid cases in one state of Oz were brought on a Princess Line vessel which apparently had been incubating the disease for weeks while at sea. There's a Class Action brewing against the Shipping Line.

We were aware that there must be rubbish from these vessels ... but the figure you quote Moose is terrifying. And there are ... what ... hundreds of these Vessels floating around the 'beauty spots' of the world?

Oh well. The mighty Dollar rules ...

It's not just the waste they deposit to the dumps when they harbor, it's the INCREDIBLE amount of refuse of a variety of sorts they put directly into the oceans via bilge, and elsewise.

Imagine a GIANT apartment complex, with all of the human waste, and other waste, going straight into the water.

We used to say, in regard to pollution that was more difficult to contend with, that, "Dilution is the Solution.' A pat saying, even among hardcore environmentalists where the oceans were concerned. Heavy metals, nuclear contamination, and lots of other issues, were all treated as though they were more or less effectively dealt with when dumped into a giant body of water.

The MASSIVE floating Island of plastic and other waste in the Pacific has put some accent on how long we can go, using a given body of water as a 'suitable' dumping ground.

 

[tobedetermined]

For me, Cruise Ships are one of the more disgusting facets of the Baby Boomers urge to spend their wealth before they die.

I totally agree. Off topic but . . . every touristic destination within a 1 hour drive of a cruise port in the Mediterranean is now (or was?) absolutely mobbed by cheap ignorant herds of tourists who spill out of their buses to follow the flag, bowling over anybody that gets in their way.

 

[moose eater]

I totally agree. Off topic but . . . every touristic destination within a 1 hour drive of a cruise port in the Mediterranean is now (or was?) absolutely mobbed by cheap ignorant herds of tourists who spill out of their buses to follow the flag, bowling over anybody that gets in their way.

I think the original part that was on-topic with the issue of COVID-19-related developments, had to do with Princess Cruises cancelling their 2020 summer cruise season to Alaska, due to the pandemic..

We'll lose some tourist money, but (despite the loss of that $ coming at a time that our economy here was already dwindling, pre-Virus), we'll gain in other (sometimes less tangible) aspects.

 

[Guest]

I totally agree. Off topic but . . . every touristic destination within a 1 hour drive of a cruise port in the Mediterranean is now (or was?) absolutely mobbed by cheap ignorant herds of tourists who spill out of their buses to follow the flag, bowling over anybody that gets in their way.

Never been on a cruise ship in my life. BUT we were kind of considering trying one next thanksgiving. Until now, still not out of the question at some point. I figured its better than the years of spending it with fam we dont like. Maybe just a long weekend in the Keys or something warm. But not till next year probably.

 

[St. Phatty]

It's not just the waste they deposit to the dumps when they harbor, it's the INCREDIBLE amount of refuse of a variety of sorts they put directly into the oceans via bilge, and elsewise.

That was one of the first subjects Google censored, back in the early 00's.

They refused to run ads for Oceana, who was trying to educate about that exact subject.

 

[Teddybrae]

Yes. I imagined lots of filth from bilge flushing etc. Ships regularly dump waste, flush bilges in the open ocean anyway.

An Apartment block is an excellent simile for these floating Behemoths.

"Dilution is the Solution"? Yes, all we can do once the poison is manufactured is to spread it as thinly as possible. Unfortunate that the Ocean is not big enough for us!

It's not just the waste they deposit to the dumps when they harbor, it's the INCREDIBLE amount of refuse of a variety of sorts they put directly into the oceans via bilge, and elsewise.

Imagine a GIANT apartment complex, with all of the human waste, and other waste, going straight into the water.

We used to say, in regard to pollution that was more difficult to contend with, that, "Dilution is the Solution.' A pat saying, even among hardcore environmentalists where the oceans were concerned. Heavy metals, nuclear contamination, and lots of other issues, were all treated as though they were more or less effectively dealt with when dumped into a giant body of water.

The MASSIVE floating Island of plastic and other waste in the Pacific has put some accent on how long we can go, using a given body of water as a 'suitable' dumping ground.

 

[Im'One]

Wife and i were talking tonight about the serious stuff of making a will, weiting down medicines lists, inventory property in case one of us gets unlucky. Chances are if one is the other will be. We are an older couple a long way from my daughter. We need to plan for this. I am almost stoic but i know her odds would not be good with her pre existing conditions, bad heart, back issues, etc.

I want to take her to see Denali some how some day if we get through this shit storm

 

[moose eater]

I hope you're both able to see the Mountain, IO.

Stay safe, be conscientious about items you bring into your home, who comes and goes, all the stuff you already know to do.

Denali (US Park Service) cancelled opening the road into the Park due to the pandemic. They're saving it for you!

 

[Dr. Purpur]

Wife and i were talking tonight about the serious stuff of making a will, weiting down medicines lists, inventory property in case one of us gets unlucky. Chances are if one is the other will be. We are an older couple a long way from my daughter. We need to plan for this. I am almost stoic but i know her odds would not be good with her pre existing conditions, bad heart, back issues, etc.

I want to take her to see Denali some how some day if we get through this shit storm

You want to set up a living trust, to protect assets. I did one 12 years ago

 

[moose eater]

The stats dashboard I've been using most often has apparently (as of a day or 2 ago) removed the listing of Canada as its own section, instead generically incorporating Canada as ONE number under N. America, thus, there's no specific listing of/for the provinces, territories, or Nunavut.

Likewise, the listing of 'American'/US territories or properties no longer lists American Samoa at all, as far as I can see.

https://ncov2019.live/data

American Samoa and Nunavut were the highlights of my days for a while, as they both had nice round goose-eggs for # of confirmed infections, thereby representing some form of clarity or hope in the here and now..

Meanwhile the US rate of mortality for the Virus is currently at 34,522, and Alaska is up to a confirmed 300 cases testing positive, with 9 deceased.

Alaska is still not willing to close the upcoming commercial salmon fishery, despite knowing several key points; The Alaska Department of Fish & Game, as well as the Board of Fisheries are NOT health organizations, but regulators for the fishing industry, yet seem to be having an undeserved say re. a health-related decision; 1,000's & 1,000's of (mostly) non-resident cannery and processing workers would be needed to make this happen; the grunt labor that works for cheap, long hours, and basically helps the commercial fishery to exist..

AND

With most, or all dine-in restaurants across the Country properly closed, early speculation on prices for most bulk-caught salmon at the dock has it at between .30 cents and .50 cents/lb., with many of the commercial fishermen also coming from Outside (Lower-48).

There are plenty of opportunities to shake one's head until their neck hurts.

Movie time, something non-pandemic, then my delayed shop chores & projects call.

 

[Medfinder]

Chicago hospital treating severe Covid-19 patients with Gilead Sciences’ antiviral medicine remdesivir in a closely watched clinical trial is seeing rapid recoveries in fever and respiratory symptoms, with nearly all patients discharged in less than a week, STAT has learned.

Remdesivir was one of the first medicines identified as having the potential to impact SARS-CoV-2, the novel coronavirus that causes Covid-19, in lab tests. The entire world has been waiting for results from Gilead’s clinical trials, and positive results would likely lead to fast approvals by the Food and Drug Administration and other regulatory agencies. If safe and effective, it could become the first approved treatment against the disease.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/16/early-peek-at-data-on-gilead-coronavirus-drug-suggests-patients-are-responding-to-treatment/

 

[I'mback]

The stats dashboard I've been using most often has apparently (as of a day or 2 ago) removed the listing of Canada as its own section, instead generically incorporating Canada as ONE number under N. America, thus, there's no specific listing of/for the provinces, territories, or Nunavut.

Likewise, the listing of 'American'/US territories or properties no longer lists American Samoa at all, as far as I can see.

https://ncov2019.live/data

American Samoa and Nunavut were the highlights of my days for a while, as they both had nice round goose-eggs for # of confirmed infections, thereby representing some form of clarity or hope in the here and now..

Meanwhile the US rate of mortality for the Virus is currently at 34,522, and Alaska is up to a confirmed 300 cases testing positive, with 9 deceased.

Alaska is still not willing to close the upcoming commercial salmon fishery, despite knowing several key points; The Alaska Department of Fish & Game, as well as the Board of Fisheries are NOT health organizations, but regulators for the fishing industry, yet seem to be having an undeserved say re. a health-related decision; 1,000's & 1,000's of (mostly) non-resident cannery and processing workers would be needed to make this happen; the grunt labor that works for cheap, long hours, and basically helps the commercial fishery to exist..

AND

With most, or all dine-in restaurants across the Country properly closed, early speculation on prices for most bulk-caught salmon at the dock has it at between .30 cents and .50 cents/lb., with many of the commercial fishermen also coming from Outside (Lower-48).

There are plenty of opportunities to shake one's head until their neck hurts.

Movie time, something non-pandemic, then my delayed shop chores & projects call.

Here you go Moose. From the Great White North. Cheers
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/coronavirustracker/

 

[moose eater]

Thanks, IB.

I'll check Nunavut regularly now.

Somewhere out there is a link to American Samoa.

I have thought to myself, admittedly cynically, that maybe the reason the 2 places continued to report 0 infections was that nobody cared enough to give them any tests.

But I'll hang onto my preferred outlook that there's at least 2 places on the globe that have zero infections, and they're sitting back there, fat and happy, smoking ganja, carving Frobisher Bay soap stone into pipes, and getting by, wondering what all the hubbub is about.

Edit: My fave places are still holding steady, IB, with YT still at 8, NWT remaining at 5, and Nunavut at 0000000000000000000000000000. Bless the Northland!!!
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re-Edit: My cynical supposition was not misplaced. American Samoa has no way to conduct tests.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...-s-coronavirus-conundrum-no-way-test-n1167776

Nunavut seems to be in better shape, appearing to have tests, and individual follow-up.

https://www.gov.nu.ca/health/information/covid-19-novel-coronavirus

 

[I'mback]

Thanks, IB.

I'll check Nunavut regularly now.

Somewhere out there is a link to American Samoa.

I have thought to myself, admittedly cynically, that maybe the reason the 2 places continued to report 0 infections was that nobody cared enough to give them any tests.

But I'll hang onto my preferred outlook that there's at least 2 places on the globe that have zero infections, and they're sitting back there, fat and happy, smoking ganja, carving Frobisher Bay soap stone into pipes, and getting by, wondering what all the hubbub is about.

Edit: My fave places are still holding steady, IB, with YT still at 8, NWT remaining at 5, and Nunavut at 0000000000000000000000000000. Bless the Northland!!!

For what is worth good buddy. Inuits diet is special. There was a documentary about it some years ago. I don't remember all the details but... Similarly so is the Mediterraneans diet. Us North Americans do not know how to eat. The whole world have been telling us this for years. The data that is coming out of Italy was a shocker. I believe the large demographic of elderly in Italy with pre-existing conditions might have had something to do with it. Because most Italians have good juju. My wife is well versed on who, or should I say where the healthiest people live on this planet. Basically in this order:

• anything from the ground
• meat without legs (fish & sea food)
• if you have to have legs, make it two (fowl)
• last but not least 4 legged beast, which should be minimal.

Mediterraneans use copus amounts of olive oil, not like us with vegetable oil. Inuits eat a lot of fish, oily fish...

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/13-benefits-of-fish-oil

Because edible plants are scarce in the Arctic, the Inuit ate mostly meat they got from hunting. They ate animals such as caribou, seals, walruses, polar bears, arctic hares, musk oxen, birds such as ptarmigan, and fish such as arctic char, salmon and whitefish.

How did Inuit avoid scurvy?
Native foods easily supply those 10 milligrams of scurvy prevention, especially when organ meats—preferably raw—are on the menu. ... Traditional Inuit practices like freezing meat and fish and frequently eating them raw, she notes, conserve vitamin C, which is easily cooked off and lost in food processing.

 

[moose eater]

An Arctic Biology Prof. at University of Alaska-Fairbanks, a wonderful guy named Doug Schammel (spelling?), now deceased, years ago (early 1980s) brought arteries from cadavers into class. Some from remote NW Coast Inupiat/Inupiaq persons, and some from your average urban folks. The elasticity in the NW/N Coastal Inupiat/Inupiaq veins/arteries back then was visibly different. Lots of health left to/in them. The urban cadavers blood vessels were one step away from thick banjo strings.

Yet walrus, fish, seal, whale, etc., is far heavier in some fats, and serious heavy metals too, in some cases..

Those of us raised on Oscar Mayer bologna and Cheetos... well…. we get what we put in.

 

[St. Phatty]

DEAR DIARY What is the Color of Your Sputum

yes, there's a form for that.

from

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCA65ghLMXY