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Coronavirus.. outlook

I'mback

Comfortably numb!
What Im saying is " You should have been listening to me all along" Even now isn't too late, but Ive been slowly prepping for this for several years. Im ready for several different scenarios. Food, fuel, off grid hide out, supplies, seeds, green houses,4 generators, solar/ battery bank, invertors, etc.

Are you ready?
I see! A scared prepper. What was your stock pile for 1999/2000. I carry my smart stock pile in my head. BTW, they WILL find you :biggrin: ROTFL The SERIOUS prepper keeps his mouth shut and blends in :) e.g icognito
 

Dr. Purpur

Custom Haze crosses
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I see! A scared prepper. What was your stock pile for 1999/2000. I carry my smart stock pile in my head. BTW, they WILL find you :biggrin: ROTFL The SERIOUS prepper keeps his mouth shut and blends in :) e.g icognito

Ill feed them a "hot lunch" if they find me. :D
 

audiohi

Well-known member
Veteran
No evidence of clinical efficacy of hydroxychloroquine in patients hospitalized for COVID-19 infection with oxygen requirement: results of a study using routinely collected data to emulate a target trial

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.10.20060699v1

This study included 181 patients with SARS-CoV-2 pneumonia; 84 received HCQ within 48 hours of admission (HCQ group) and 97 did not (no-HCQ group). Initial severity was well balanced between the groups. In the weighted analysis, 20.2% patients in the HCQ group were transferred to the ICU or died within 7 days vs 22.1% in the no-HCQ group (16 vs 21 events, relative risk [RR] 0.91, 95% CI 0.47-1.80). In the HCQ group, 2.8% of the patients died within 7 days vs 4.6% in the no-HCQ group (3 vs 4 events, RR 0.61, 95% CI 0.13-2.89), and 27.4% and 24.1%, respectively, developed acute respiratory distress syndrome within 7 days (24 vs 23 events, RR 1.14, 95% CI 0.65-2.00). Eight patients receiving HCQ (9.5%) experienced electrocardiogram modifications requiring HCQ discontinuation. Interpretation These results do not support the use of HCQ in patients hospitalised for documented SARS-CoV-2-positive hypoxic pneumonia.

But, tRump has a hope for his followers.

Old Zev Zelenko is a right wing star. Most importantly, his client base and community is happy again now that he's taken the heat off of his initial cry for help.

New York initial results should be out soon.

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Medfinder

Chemon 91
True?..or False?..

Fauci’s NIAID Funded Wuhan Lab Scientists To Research Bat Coronavirus

Dr. Anthony Fauci’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) actually funded a study on Bat Coronavirus, which was a project that included scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, the Chinese lab at the center of controversy over their bat research. That study confirmed in 2018 that humans have died from coronavirus.

Here’s an excerpt from the April 4, 2018 NIAID website entry entitled “New Coronavirus Emerges From Bats in China, Devastates Young Swine”: “A newly identified coronavirus that killed nearly 25,000 piglets in 2016-17 in China emerged from horseshoe bats near the origin of the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV), which emerged in 2002 in the same bat species. The new virus is named swine acute diarrhea syndrome coronavirus (SADS-CoV). It does not appear to infect people, unlike SARS-CoV which infected more than 8,000 people and killed 774. No SARS-CoV cases have been identified since 2004. The study investigators identified SADS-CoV on four pig farms in China’s Guangdong Province. The work was a collaboration among scientists from EcoHealth Alliance, Duke-NUS Medical School, Wuhan Institute of Virology and other organizations, and was funded by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, part of the National Institutes of Health. The research is published in the journal Nature. The researchers say the finding is an important reminder that identifying new viruses in animals and quickly determining their potential to infect people is a key way to reduce global health threats.”
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
COVID-19 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC
Last updated: April 15, 2020, 14:42 GMT
Graphs - Countries - Death Rate - Incubation - Symptoms - News
Coronavirus Cases:
2,025,004
view by country
Deaths:
128,978
Recovered:
492,763
ACTIVE CASES
1,403,263
Currently Infected Patients
1,351,667 (96%)
in Mild Condition

51,596 (4%)
Serious or Critical
621,741
Cases which had an outcome:
492,763 (79%)
Recovered / Discharged

128,978 (21%
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
HEALTH
CDC director distances himself from Trump’s WHO criticism, saying the agencies ‘continue to have’ strong relationship

Just hours after President Trump announced his intention to cut off U.S. funding for the World Health Organization over its handling of the coronavirus crisis, the leader of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention demurred when asked if the global health agency had failed and if it was wise to halt funding the midst of a pandemic.

“CDC and WHO has had a long history of working together in multiple outbreaks throughout the world, as we continue to do in this one,” CDC Director Robert Redfield said Wednesday on “Good Morning America.” “And so, we’ve had a very productive public health relationship. We continue to have that.”
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
HUMAN TRIALS OF TWO CORONAVIRUS VACCINES START IN CHINA

China has started clinical trials on two potential COVID-19 vaccines, the country's official state-run press agency reported citing the State Council joint coronavirus prevention and control mechanism.

The experimental vaccines were created by teams at the Wuhan Institute of Biological Products, which is associated with the state-owned China National Pharmaceutical Group, and Sinovac Research and Development Co., Ltd, which is based in the Chinese capital of Beijing. Both trials have started, the report stated.

In the U.S...congress extends recess...

When will congress be back in session?
 

Swamp Thang

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Veteran
To any IC Mag writers living out in the boonies, who might be considering a spot of survival trapping to harvest meat, I HIGHLY recommend the book written on the subject by A.J Harding, and available for the cheap price of $7 at the Fur Fish and Game website.

https://www.furfishgame.com/store/product97.html]

A large number of highly innovative and ingenious traps and snare methods are detailed in this book with superb illustrations showing all details of the woodwork that each trap entails.

Armed with the information in this book, a determined trapper can bag game ranging in size from a filed mouse or pheasant, to a frigging rhinoceros, depending on one's location of course.

Oddly enough, this book was available as a free download a while back, but that freebie is evidently no longer on offer. Still and all, seven dollars is a really good deal on this book, considering the accumulated wealth of frontiersman knowledge that it contains.

Get a copy in these trying times, and Bob's yer uncle.
 

armedoldhippy

Well-known member
Veteran
To any IC Mag writers living out in the boonies, who might be considering a spot of survival trapping to harvest meat, I HIGHLY recommend the book written on the subject by A.J Harding, and available for the cheap price of $7 at the Fur Fish and Game website.

https://www.furfishgame.com/store/product97.html]

A large number of highly innovative and ingenious traps and snare methods are detailed in this book with superb illustrations showing all details of the woodwork that each trap entails.

Armed with the information in this book, a determined trapper can bag game ranging in size from a filed mouse or pheasant, to a frigging rhinoceros, depending on one's location of course.

Oddly enough, this book was available as a free download a while back, but that freebie is evidently no longer on offer. Still and all, seven dollars is a really good deal on this book, considering the accumulated wealth of frontiersman knowledge that it contains.

Get a copy in these trying times, and Bob's yer uncle.

thanks for posting this. but...how did you know about my uncle Robert? are you psychic?:biggrin:
 
M

moose eater

No evidence of clinical efficacy of hydroxychloroquine in patients hospitalized for COVID-19 infection with oxygen requirement: results of a study using routinely collected data to emulate a target trial

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.10.20060699v1



But, tRump has a hope for his followers.

Old Zev Zelenko is a right wing star. Most importantly, his client base and community is happy again now that he's taken the heat off of his initial cry for help.

New York initial results should be out soon.

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In fairness, I believe early on it was stated that this (and maybe other?) intervention was most promising if done in advance of the virus having run its course. In other words, before the series of symptoms had progressed to the later stage(s) of 'pink slime' in the resp. tubes, and gasping for air.
 

I'mback

Comfortably numb!
To any IC Mag writers living out in the boonies, who might be considering a spot of survival trapping to harvest meat, I HIGHLY recommend the book written on the subject by A.J Harding, and available for the cheap price of $7 at the Fur Fish and Game website.

https://www.furfishgame.com/store/product97.html]

A large number of highly innovative and ingenious traps and snare methods are detailed in this book with superb illustrations showing all details of the woodwork that each trap entails.

Armed with the information in this book, a determined trapper can bag game ranging in size from a filed mouse or pheasant, to a frigging rhinoceros, depending on one's location of course.

Oddly enough, this book was available as a free download a while back, but that freebie is evidently no longer on offer. Still and all, seven dollars is a really good deal on this book, considering the accumulated wealth of frontiersman knowledge that it contains.

Get a copy in these trying times, and Bob's yer uncle.
Fixed that for you :)
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/34110/34110-h/34110-h.htm

You can download it from there or read online. Google is our friend. :)

For others... The title of the book is: Deadfall and snares by A.J Harding
 

Swamp Thang

Well-known member
Veteran
Much thanks for digging up the link where the free download of this book is located, ImBack. I stumbled on that free download page years ago, and then lost track of it, until now thanks to this detective work you did.

Considering that the book's author died in 1930, the woodsman's skills he committed to writing, accompanied by those superb drawings, are all still very relevant and usable today, almost a century later. The sheer variety of dead-fall triggers in this book, make for some great reading in this time of primal survival.
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
Yes...then poof!!!!

Breaking!!!!!


WHO unsure if coronavirus patients can get infected second time!...

With regards to recovery and then reinfection, I believe we do not have the answers to that. That is an unknown,” the WHO’s executive director of emergencies, Dr. Mike Ryan, told a press briefing Monday.

South Korea: More recovered coronavirus patients test positive
At least 116 people cleared of the virus have tested positive again, raising questions for authorities.


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Coronavirus Distancing Until 2022?
If you thought the CDC’s warning was bad, Harvard researchers had an even more painful take. In a new report, they suggest that social distancing measures stay in place until 2022. In their view, a second wave is inevitable when the first lockdowns are eased. In the absence of a vaccine, few have had the chance to build immunity.

U.S. Economy Losing $25 Billion Every Day In Lockdown
Every day the U.S. remains in lockdown, the economy is taking a beating. St. Louis Federal Reserve President James Bullard predicts the U.S. is bleeding $25 billion every day in lost productivity.

In a particularly dire assessment, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) estimates the global economy will shed $9 trillion through 2021. They declared it the worst recession since the Great Depression.

Goldman Sachs jumped on the bandwagon, calculating that this recession will be four times worse than 2008.

Is The Economic Pain Priced Into The Dow Jones?
Despite the Dow’s initial 35% drop, U.S. stocks have bounced back into a technical bull market. At first glance, the stock market seems to be underestimating the possibility of more profound depression. But Goldman Sachs remains bullish, arguing that the Federal Reserve and Congress will prop up the market.
 
M

moose eater

As a curmudgeonly bastard, I'm content with social distancing 'til the Sun supernovas.

But I predict the cow moose in my 'hood may become more scarce..
 

St. Phatty

Active member
Coronavirus Distancing Until 2022?
If you thought the CDC’s warning was bad, Harvard researchers had an even more painful take. In a new report, they suggest that social distancing measures stay in place until 2022.


That only sounds painful because the US has done THE MOST PAINFUL, least effective quarantine.

You get the same amount of "quarantine effect" (reduces rate of transmission R0) by requiring people to wear masks.


Plus Trump is showing that he only has ONE speed, and it's Full Metal Moron.

He speaks of re-opening a restaurant, with social distancing and fewer tables, as if that's some kind of tragedy.


Is there anything distinctive about the sound of the Covid Cough ?

It's interesting how we can become angry quickly now, when someone coughs near us in the store, if they're not wearing a mask.

In today's shopping trip, about 1/2 the people at the $ store were wearing masks, the employees were not wearing masks.

At the hardware store, everybody waiting in line in the garden area was wearing a mask.

I pushed through the line and grabbed a 3 cubic foot bale of soil.

I could have said excuse me and waited. I think there's some merit to getting in and out quickly.
 
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