That would be 50 years ago. 1971 California minimum wage.
understand raising the minimum wage.
Fighting capitalism with capitalism, capitalism will win every time.
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understand raising the minimum wage.
Fighting capitalism with capitalism, capitalism will win every time.
Spent it all on beer at Cooks Corner…
'Boogieman'
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Indiana is a right to work state, many businesses are paying more due to the shortage of workers. Some are putting in pretty decent sign on bonuses. The steel mills are paying 30 an hour minimum.
And they’re blaming that on folks collecting unemployment.
I guess what you’re saying is that socialism has helped raise wages.
Sunshineinabag
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He's right
'Boogieman'
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Nope im saying people are lazy and don't want to work yet expect the american dream. People my age are getting a job, working the 90 days or whatever, then sitting around on their phones trying to get fired so they can collect unemployment. They could make real money but they are content on just getting by. Just another reason to vote with the conservatives as far as im concerned.
If everybody worked, wages would go down. People my age used to purposely fall down and get workman's comp. Maybe we should get rid of that too.
VenerableHippie
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Man, the thing is ... it's like Goethe wrote last century: "We learn best from those we love." (In german of course.) So if you have a, for example Grandad you really liked, and Grandad's against Commies cos he fought them in the war, and you're only small and don't know what a Commie is ... and you end up having a standard American education and never learn that it's possible to think for yourself ... and add some life stress, maybe also bad drugs ... oh, and alcohol to burn out the neuron pathways ... then, whenever you want to rail against something in Politics you'll revert and pull "Commies" out of the cobweb of your memory. Fuck discernment, Man. Fuck thinking for your self. Revert, revert, revert!
well, of all the nerve! lol...
owning my own labor is preferable to a dipshit telling me what to do for the rest of my life. socialism = economic freedom. capitalist thieves deserve the rope.
i think it's more than that. most of the people who think communism is taking over are completely out of touch with reality (you can see a few of them on this very forum). it comes from a long history of americans distrusting government and corporatists and snake oil salesman taking command of the narrative after that which completely confuse most people. once you exploit the anti government narrative of most older +45 types, they're literally open to beleving anything lol. including that commies are right around the corner ready to pounce at any moment.
i come from german and italian ancestry. my german side, my grandpa and his brother was hitler youth, they fled germany with my great grandma and they both eventually joined the US army. my italian side, same deal with my grandpa. i believe he was a mechanic in WW2. It's unfortunate my italian grandfather is seemingly unaware that many of his sons are repeating tucker carlson levels of white supremacy and fascistic talking points (ie- the white population is dying, etc). it's honestly embarrasing lol.
You’re just changing owners.
yes. instead of unelected jeff bezos telling the workers what to do, how to do it, etc, the workers elect their own boss democratically and they all equally own the means of production. that's preferable on many levels.
21'st century socialism = workers democratically owning the means of production
With all the follies of the Democratic system. A network of good ol boys and proxy voting. Electing their own masters. Masters none the same.
'Boogieman'
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Venezuela voted for socialism, they got a dictatorship instead. I would rather work for a wage and invest my money then eat out of a dumpster if things don't work out. 
