Colorado House Bill 1284

[Mile Hi Dave]

Co-op as in share space, right? And when it comes to power I am talking about bringing in more power to the building. For example if you currently having 300amp service and you want to upgrade to 800 total it's gonna cost you $10,500. Get it? Does that make any sense to you? Not what the company is gonna charge for power, sweetie. I also think you are confused as to what a co-op is. I won't be asking other licensed growers or MMC's to share a grow space with me. (The point they want to make is that if they limit you to 5 patients each they dont want you and 10 of your buddies saying that you all work together and thats why there is 300 plants in your closet) There is no limit to the number of licenses that they will issue to any MMC. So I could have 100 dispensaries and 100 "optional" grows if I had the loot to hand over to these assholes. All would be licensed under me. Use your head buddy. For example2, If i own Davids dispensary and I want to grow enough variety and quality medicine to keep up I might "co-op" with like minded individuals, buy or rent a space and hire "employees" to grow my meds for me. No caregiver rights, no bullshit. Dispensaries will also be able to buy and sell 30% of their ON HAND inventory. So, David's dispensary might have a good wholesale agreement with other dispensaries. All of these people would be cooperating or working collectively. So I don't give a fuck when or what you got arrested for. That doesn't make you an industry shaker, it makes you an idiot.
I wasn't the one that started talking shit. I was giving people info (all of which had alot to say about how much they appreciated it) and you wanted to know why I heard it the way I heard it. I have no reason to lie. I was trying to help by spreading info around. Giving people certain things to look for and say "yeah i heard the same thing" or "they said this earlier, did it change?" etc. Its a forum in the purest form. YOU ARE TROLLING
Is that a walk in closet?

It's an interesting thought, but you can only sell 30% of ON HAND once...it's not like you will be able to sell 30% over and over...maybe you're getting some bad advice. They are bound and determined to force "verticle integration" or, to put it in layman's terms - forced partnerships...I really think you are reading something into that part of the Bill that really isn't there...that's only my opinion, and I hope I am wrong. This bill is designed to take out small businesses and create maga-dispensaries, which, you and i have to agree, is not going to be good for the patient, or any of us smaller growers. If you check the blog in the post a few prior to this, you will see Romer is already dictating changes. Funny how he is telling what is going to happen, even before it's been brought up in the House...wonder if any of the rest of the House has seen the article?

 

[warrenedson]

Romer is going to try to f things up today. It should be quite the show. Yes, he is planning on running for mayor. I will be voting for anyone but Romer, even Charlie Brown.

 

[Mile Hi Dave]

Romer is going to try to f things up today. It should be quite the show. Yes, he is planning on running for mayor. I will be voting for anyone but Romer, even Charlie Brown.

How can he go in and make all these wholesale changes without it going before the House again??

I'll be at the Capitol! For those that can make it...come and have your voice heard..it's a Public Hearing and you should be able to testify! If you can't....email addresses were previously posted....get to work!!!

 

[Mile Hi Dave]

Ok folks....you can sit on the sidelines & bitch....or you can participate... For those that can make it....please do! The rest of you, please take a few minutes out of your day and email/call your reps office, let them know how you feel!!!!

Some of the changes Romer wants to make: http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2010/04/chris_romer_wants_to_ban_21-ye.php

Please copy and repost this announcement.

Medical Cannabis Day of Action

Senate Local Government Committee
Hearing on HB1284
Tuesday, April 27, 2010
State Capitol Building
200 E. Colfax, Denver, CO 80201

11am-12pm: Grassroots Lobbying Tours of the Capitol
Grassroots lobbying tours led by community organizers from Mile High NORML
and the Colorado Coalition for Patients and Caregivers will leave from the
Cafeteria in the Basement at 11am and 12 noon. This will be an opportunity
to lobby senators before the hearing begins. See Mile High NORML's
grassroots lobbying demonstration video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APdu-hkFVfg

2:00 pm: Hearing on HB1284
Senate Local Government Committee
Old Supreme Court Chambers
Second Floor, North End, State Capitol Building
The south entrance is handicapped accessible.

*** Please arrive early to sign up to testify. ***

Sign-up inside the Old Supreme Court Chambers
Attire: Dress to Impress
Provisions: Bring food and water, as the hearing may last a while.

ACTION ALERT: HEARING ON HB1284
This is your *last chance* to give public testimony on House Bill 1284, a
bill designed to destroy the current medical marijuana program in
Colorado.

We are also urging you to CALL and EMAIL the Senate Local Government
Committee Members (see below.)

HB1284 is now a 72-page monstrosity that allows the Department of Revenue
to control the licensing and all standards of medical marijuana "centers."
On April 22, the bill passed the full House by a vote of 39 to 23. The
bill requires a dispensary to get a state license, a local license and a
cultivation license. A state license might cost up to $50,000, according
to Senator Chris Romer, one of the bill's sponsors. Most dispensaries will
not be able to comply with the requirement to cultivate 70% of their
medicine onsite.

HB1284 creates Medical Marijuana Enforcement Investigators, who could
investigate the center any time it is open, or appears to be open. They do
not need a search warrant, but they would have police powers to enforce
all Colorado laws. Senator Romer has said that dispensaries could expect
an auditor to be at their clinic every 5 to 7 days.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFXOxU5tNi8

HB1284 is fraught with problems. CTI proposes that the state instead set
up a commission to study the issue and introduce a sensible bill next
year, to make sure this complicated issue gets addressed properly.

HB1284 now moves on to a public hearing in the Senate Local Government
Committee, scheduled for Tuesday, April 27.

*This will be the last opportunity to give public testimony on the bill*

*CAREGIVERS TAKE ACTION*
Caregivers are urged to rally their patients to attend this hearing at the
Capitol. Forward this action alert to your email list and post it on your
website.

*LISTEN ONLINE*
You listen online to the Old Supreme Court Chambers.
http://www.coloradochannel.net/

*ANALYSES*
Click here to read a more detailed analysis of HB1284 from two attorneys.

Attorney Danyel Joffe's Action Alerts on HB1284
http://www.cannabistherapyinstitute.com/bills/hb1284.danyel.joffe.13.pdf
http://www.joffelawfirm.com/MedicalMarijuana.htm

Attorney Lauren Davis' Action Alert on HB1284
http://www.cannabistherapyinstitute.com/bills/hb1284.lauren.davis.html

Click here to read the latest version of HB1284 from the General Assembly
webpage:
http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2010a/csl.nsf/fsbillcont3/0C6B6577EC
6DB1E8872576A80029D7E2?open&file=1284_ren.pdf

*CALL AND EMAIL*

URGENT - URGENT - URGENT

Contact these Committee members by phone and email. Be *polite* and
professional. Ask them to vote No on HB1284 and instead form a Commission
of patients, caregivers, lawmakers and law enforcement that will draft a
bill that will work, instead of pushing through a 72-page regulatory
nightmare that will force all but the richest dispensaries out of
business.

*Senate Local Government Committee Members*

Sen. Gail Schwartz (D-Snowmass), Chair
District 5 (Alamosa, Chaffee, Conejos, Costilla, Delta, Gunnison,
Hinsdale, Mineral, Pitkin, Rio Grande and Saguache Counties) Capitol
Phone: 303-866-4871 E-mail: [email protected]

Sen. Joyce Foster (D), Vice-Chair
District 35 (Arapahoe and Denver Counties)
Capitol Phone: 303-866-4875
E-Mail: [email protected]

Sen. Bill Cadman (R)
District 10 (El Paso County)
Capitol Phone: 303-866-2737
E-mail: [email protected]

Sen. Mary Hodge (D)
District 25 (Adams County)
Capitol Phone: 303-866-4855
E-Mail: [email protected]

Sen. Ken Kester (R)
District 2 (Baca, Bent, Crowley, Custer, Fremont, Huerfano, Las Animas,
Otero and Pueblo Counties) Capitol Phone: 303-866-4877 E-Mail:
[email protected]

Sen. Kevin Lundberg (R)
District 15 (Larimer County)
Office Location: 200 E. Colfax
Denver, CO 80203
Capitol Phone: (303)866-4853
E-Mail: [email protected]

Sen. Linda Newell (D)
District 26 (Arapahoe and Jefferson County)
Capitol Phone: 303-866-4846
E-mail: [email protected]

COPY AND PASTE EMAILS:
[email protected],
[email protected],
[email protected],
[email protected],
[email protected],
[email protected],
[email protected]

 

[MillitantHippie]

anyone know if we will be able to listen to this on the live stream?

 

[K.J]

anyone know if we will be able to listen to this on the live stream?

*LISTEN ONLINE*
You listen online to the Old Supreme Court Chambers.
http://www.coloradochannel.net/

 

[Tripsick]

*LISTEN ONLINE*
You listen online to the Old Supreme Court Chambers.
http://www.coloradochannel.net/

My audio isnt working for that room.. others were working fine

2:00 pm: Hearing on HB1284

I should go down there i have the flu or something close...

 

[cobcoop]

yep isn't working for me either... Just static.

 

[BowlPacks]

Fuck..... there is just silence...

 

[Tripsick]

its on.. oops i guess i was on the wrong channel..

or this is something else.. they said most of you are not here for this..

Nope I'm in the right place but of course they are talking about something else.. Water conservation

 

[BowlPacks]

It started about 10 min ago. This may be good, They are giving Romer a lot of shit.

 

[Goba]

wow 24,503 patients on the registry and nearly 58,000 backlogged applications. Seems like the CDPHE is behind a little. Now I know where my renewal is.

 

[Tripsick]

lots of haters of MMC.
At least they only get 3 mins to talk shit.

Sounds like most support primary caregivers and use the "Think of the children defense" and Marijuana is dependent and 300+ people ended up in the ER last year nation wide for Marijuana..

Corry Has like 9 mins to talk lol they were all do you have that much to say? i guess they don't know him...

 

[scarred4life]

I can think of a lot of good, socially acceptable things that send way more than 300 people a year in the US to the er...kids too. What about bicycles, baseball bats, and peanut butter? How many people are hospitalized for these things each year? I think they should be banned. fucking totally illegal.

 

[Tripsick]

lol yeah its pretty fucking insane 300 people a year have panic attacks so bad that they end up in the ER and blame marijuana.

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I'm glad Corry is talking now

lol at the Bitch with the hand gesture remarks and internet rebuttal.. along with the phone ringing.. .umm a lot?
works for the patient.. but city's do want they want to do?

 

[milehighmedical]

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[warrenedson]

Today it was in Senate committee. Now it will go to the full Senate. No public comment but they are able to modify the bill. If there are significant modifications, whatever the hell that means, they have to send it to the House for a revote.

 

[Tela]

can anyone post the list of proposed changes that Corry was referring(no pun) to?

 

[scarred4life]

I like how they just passed L121. Now, all the applicants for MMC licensing will have to be ready to prove they grow 70% of their medicine when they submit by 7-15-10, while the legal protection of their potential license doesn't exist till 7-1-11.
And it's just great that they used Clendinin to uphold and pass the caregiver definitions while completely ignoring the glaring unconstitutionality of the 5 patient limit.

 

[Greenmopho]

I want to hear it in Local Government on Tuesday. Here are some changes. Let's talk before you draft.

1) I want all applications for MMJ centers due by July 1st with payment of non refundable application fee.

2) Must certify that they are growing 70% of the MMJ for their clinic by July 1st.

3) requires that MMJ centers with 300 patients or more must have licensed medical or message [massage?] professionals on site for at least 30 hours per week.

4) must be a Colorado resident for two years to own a MMJ center, be a partner or have a financial interest not including real estate lease.

5) Cities and Counties must certify that they have shut all MMJ centers that have not file State application fees by Sept 1st or no applications from that jurisdiction will be processed.

6) In cities greater than 35,000 and counties greater than 100,000 MMJ centers must be 1000 from schools no exceptions.

7) CDPHE can grant a waiver for onsite consumption for MMJ center if required to serve at least 10% of their patients but they must provide list of patients who are allowed to consume on site.

8) allows for sale of excess MMJ to one selected non profit which may be resold at cost plus 10% to MMJ centers to serve low income patients excluded from the 30% external limit.

9) provides for a non profit foundation organized solely for public university to apply for a research license and may sell excess MMJ to MMJ centers or edible licensee and may patent research or MMJ strains. This MMJ would not count against the MMJ centers 30% external limit.

Waiver for onsite consumption for MMJ center, but they must provide the list of patients that are consuming on site....so the cops can sit outside and pull you over as soon as you leave for driving under the influence, and you can't deny it because your name is on the list for on-site consumption....bullshit!

His %'s seem pretty off there, don't ya think? resold at cost plus 10%? is there any business that isn't allowed to make more than 10% profit? That is ridiculous...This does nothing to prove the origin of the product, all the Cali importers will have the upperhand with that one, because they will have a lower cost....

And wait, wait, wait....did I read that last part right? #9?

They will allow research institutions, universities, etc. (big pharma) to PATENT strains?!!?!?!?!? Is this serious? I know you can legally patent a plant in America, which is already bullshit. The Big Pharma companies will buy up the patents on all the strains and any of their genetic derivatives, and you will have to pay licensing fees to use them, or they will sue you into obscurity, much like Monsanto is doing with farmers that are refusing to grow GMO crops....If they owned the rights to some basic landraces, pretty much every hybridized strain could be traced back genetically to one of these landraces, and even the strains that you THINK you have worked so hard on to hybridize, you would not own them, and you would be sued for growing them....Sounds like a great world to me! I need to start patenting Oaxaca, Acapulco Gold, NL#5, Skunk#1, Highland Thai, Original Haze, and then I would pretty much own every other strain in the world based on that, since it would be patent infringement to genetically modify (breed, cross, etc) an owned strain.

Why don't we put this into perspective....The pharmaceutical industry is already the 2nd largest industry in the world, after oil. Most of their products are derivates of either crude oil, synthetic compounds, or opiates from Afghanistan. They own patents on all sorts of plants, microbes, compounds, etc, hoarding them, and limiting research. The cost for them to make 1 pill (percoset, oxycotin, vicodin, xanax, etc.) is actually around 5 to 10 cents, they usually charge around $5-10 dollars per pill, even more for the stronger stuff, and the price quadruples with black market demand. This is a minumum of 1000% profit, not to mention ONE of those pill can potentially kill you. They will dominate this industry and make Romer and a ton of lobbyists stinking rich, and buying up all or suing all the seed banks of the world for "patent infringement", until, just like food crops, it will be almost impossible to buy seeds that are not GMO and not owned and licensed by some huge multinational corporation. (see the U.S. Food Modernization Act, it will soon be illegal to grow a personal garden of ANY type of agricultural crops on your own property without an agricultural license, yes, those fruits from your own back yard will be illegal!)

They make the argument that marijuana isn't medicine, and if it is, the people that produce it should be helping the sick and shouldn't justifiably making ANY profit. Well, why don't we apply that to the pharmaceutical companies? They can only charge cost plus 10% of their medicines. That wouldn't make cancer treatment very profitable, would it? Chemo medicine is among the most expensive, and is THE most profitable drugs in the industry. They sell us the cancer for cheap, and want top dollar for their treatments, but when we find a natural alternative, they have to restrict it, control it, and eventually buy it all up....

Wow, what a world we are entering. Big brother is so big, he will even own marijuana soon...I suggest we beat them at their own game and start submitting patents to strains NOW! Flood the US patent office with them, even if it is rejected.

I actually heard a tobacco company in California is trying to patent "Purple Kush" and already has trademark copyrights on the name....

No one believes me, but in 10 years, you'll be smoking mass produced beasters prerolled in a pack, sitting in your house that the bank actually owns, built with Chinese drywall, and your kids will be hooked on all the latest attention deficit medications.....

Wait....this sounds like today!