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cannagirl
Way to go Romer, throw the state constitution right out the fucking window... Since when in a FREE-MARKET CAPITALIST SYSTEM do they limit profits?
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Colorado House Bill 1284
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Greenmopho
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I used to work in the academic field, and I used to help with grant proposal write-ups, essentially asking the government permission to do research on something, and then trolling for corporations that could drop a hefty donation to fund the research (usually just people's paychecks, rarely equipment). "Public" universities are only funded to do research in the interest of the government and large donating corporations. We could NOT do research on something in the University, unless we received a grant to do so, and we only received grants (or corporate donations) to do research on things that the corporations and the government saw financially viable. If we had a clue that something as simple as a banana could cure cancer, there would be no funding for it, because it wouldn't prove profitable, everyone would just grow their own bananas. Plus who wants to cure cancer anyway? Theres no money in that....
If "Public" Universities are doing "research" to patent strains, its only because someone further up the totem pole sees it as financially viable.
The universities are just a tool for doing research on what they can make money on, and that way, through academia, they can patent and buy up the entire market, and sue the average grower galore, which is way more effective then just arresting him! I know tons of people that don't care about getting busted, but no one wants to get sued!
This simply goes against nature, and doesn't put the patients or the average citizen in any better of a position as when it was completely illegal. This is the problem with capitalism, even our educational institutions are used for profit, at the expense of actual progress and true enlightening education. Shit, even nature is for profit in our system.
It should be a law that strains of marijuana could NOT be patented, and will always belong to the public domain, as cannabis itself should be....
If "Public" Universities are doing "research" to patent strains, its only because someone further up the totem pole sees it as financially viable.
The universities are just a tool for doing research on what they can make money on, and that way, through academia, they can patent and buy up the entire market, and sue the average grower galore, which is way more effective then just arresting him! I know tons of people that don't care about getting busted, but no one wants to get sued!
This simply goes against nature, and doesn't put the patients or the average citizen in any better of a position as when it was completely illegal. This is the problem with capitalism, even our educational institutions are used for profit, at the expense of actual progress and true enlightening education. Shit, even nature is for profit in our system.
It should be a law that strains of marijuana could NOT be patented, and will always belong to the public domain, as cannabis itself should be....
agree...
agree...
"Wow, what a world we are entering. Big brother is so big, he will even own marijuana soon..."
I just read that sentence mopho and i agree, it is nutty but thats where we are, Patents on plants is crazy!
we are in a golden era now, before big corporations have had their way with cannabis. they will move swiftly they know how to do this. monsanto, phillip morris, dupont, ahhhhh!
I heard a story about them developing a high thc strain and a high cbd/cbn strain, and dna mapping, genomes whatever, and thats the 2 you could legally have any thing else nono.
crazy crazy
anyway I think people should fear this, but I also think we asked for it and here it comes like a freight train...
so save yo seeds people!
agree...
"Wow, what a world we are entering. Big brother is so big, he will even own marijuana soon..."
I just read that sentence mopho and i agree, it is nutty but thats where we are, Patents on plants is crazy!
we are in a golden era now, before big corporations have had their way with cannabis. they will move swiftly they know how to do this. monsanto, phillip morris, dupont, ahhhhh!
I heard a story about them developing a high thc strain and a high cbd/cbn strain, and dna mapping, genomes whatever, and thats the 2 you could legally have any thing else nono.
crazy crazy
anyway I think people should fear this, but I also think we asked for it and here it comes like a freight train...
so save yo seeds people!
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scarred4life
One bright spot yesterday was Sen. Newell's advocacy for patient rights. We should all email and thank her for questioning Romer on various fronts and for telling him she'll vote no in the full senate vote unless he significantly changes the bill to reflect the wishes of the public.
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cannagirl
I really hope this bill will not pass the full senate vote. Its to politically risky, plus its an election year, write to your reps and tell them their political future depends on how they vote on this bill. They will tuck their tails in quick, but EVERYONE on this board complaining needs to be writing or calling each and every one of those senators.
HAVE YOU CALLED TODAY?????
HAVE YOU CALLED TODAY?????
Yes, never a single response...
StrictlyGateway
Member
from what i've seen...you're too late mrdank.
a guy with this big of a hard on for our community, couldn't possibly have one for anything else.....
The Colorado resident for 2 yrs to own an MMC provision is crap. Just canceled flight and meetings. Going to wait till they sort this out. Too risky. Yall have at it.
I know most of you are probably like good riddance but I want you to know that there are people outside of Colorado that truly want to help patients in a professional atmosphere and not run some fly-by-night Cali shadeball operation.
I know most of you are probably like good riddance but I want you to know that there are people outside of Colorado that truly want to help patients in a professional atmosphere and not run some fly-by-night Cali shadeball operation.
Greenmopho
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The Colorado resident for 2 yrs to own an MMC provision is crap. Just canceled flight and meetings. Going to wait till they sort this out. Too risky. Yall have at it.
I know most of you are probably like good riddance but I want you to know that there are people outside of Colorado that truly want to help patients in a professional atmosphere and not run some fly-by-night Cali shadeball operation.
I mostly agree...however seniority should be given to the locals, after all they've been fighting to make this happen, and then after them, there should be provisions for immigrants of non-mmj states. Cali and other mmj states' residents should have lowest priority, since they already have an mmj industry and can use the capital and thier influence to really dominate an industry, which has proven counter-active! Its like what Canada had to do when they discovered diamonds in the northwest territory....all the huge diamond companies try to buy it up, and Canada had to protect its own citizen's rights to mine and polish diamonds....didn't really work, DeBeers still owns all that shit!
All though, if this does pass...For other reasons, I might be headed to Oregon......or the Czech republic :smile:
Greenmopho
Member
In a Corporatocracy, the path to legalization translates to corporate take over...its the ONLY way they will allow it....
That's the only part of the bill I like.
The Colorado resident for 2 yrs to own an MMC provision is crap. Just canceled flight and meetings. Going to wait till they sort this out. Too risky. Yall have at it.
I know most of you are probably like good riddance but I want you to know that there are people outside of Colorado that truly want to help patients in a professional atmosphere and not run some fly-by-night Cali shadeball operation.
Oh bullshit. Where were you wanting to help patients 5 years ago? Only when people see an easy fast buck do they become interested in 'helping patients'. Give me a fucking break.
Ms_Weekend
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2 year resident is a good part....but any one with REAL $ can find a way around that......& most the cali ones already here will be grandfathered in, so what good does it do now?
one side of me hates the bill(the grower)....it will take away the whole supply & demand aspect we have now, small growers, good crops, spread the wealth, keeps us off the black market & somewhat legal.
the other side(pretend big disp owner, or outsider that doesnt know much about MMJ)......makes me think they are trying to get all the "home" growers/vendors gone, & would like meds produced in a secure big warehouse for each disp.....would be easier to watch, TAX, regulate, less home invasions & so forth. alot easier to keep an eye on 10 big disp than 500 small disp tucked back in med buildings & strip malls. & $35k a year + $10k for each grow would be small chips, if your lucky enough to be one of the big 10.......would push most growers back to the black market.
really hate to say this, but if it ends up like I said above......best way for the small grower to get back in the game would be call the DEA on all the big disp grows.
one side of me hates the bill(the grower)....it will take away the whole supply & demand aspect we have now, small growers, good crops, spread the wealth, keeps us off the black market & somewhat legal.
the other side(pretend big disp owner, or outsider that doesnt know much about MMJ)......makes me think they are trying to get all the "home" growers/vendors gone, & would like meds produced in a secure big warehouse for each disp.....would be easier to watch, TAX, regulate, less home invasions & so forth. alot easier to keep an eye on 10 big disp than 500 small disp tucked back in med buildings & strip malls. & $35k a year + $10k for each grow would be small chips, if your lucky enough to be one of the big 10.......would push most growers back to the black market.
really hate to say this, but if it ends up like I said above......best way for the small grower to get back in the game would be call the DEA on all the big disp grows.
I bet the DEA is happy with this bill and corralling all the large dispensaries together.
Makes raiding them easy when things change and they decide that dispensaries are fair game again.
But like what Ms Weekend said.. what stops anyone from turning these big dispensaries in for having more than 99 plants.
You know unhappy law enforcement officers trying to put "the Genie back in the bottle" or "the paste back in the tube"...
Makes raiding them easy when things change and they decide that dispensaries are fair game again.
But like what Ms Weekend said.. what stops anyone from turning these big dispensaries in for having more than 99 plants.
You know unhappy law enforcement officers trying to put "the Genie back in the bottle" or "the paste back in the tube"...
2 year resident is a good part....but any one with REAL $ can find a way around that......& most the cali ones already here will be grandfathered in, so what good does it do now?
one side of me hates the bill....it will take away the whole supply & demand aspect we have now, small growers, good crops, spread the wealth, keeps us off the black market & somewhat legal.
the other side......makes me think they are trying to get all the "home" growers/vendors gone, & would like meds produced in a secure big warehouse for each disp.....would be easier to watch, TAX, regulate, less home invasions & so forth. alot easier to keep an eye on 10 big disp than 500 small disp tucked back in med buildings & strip malls. & $35k a year + $10k for each grow would be small chips, if your lucky enough to be one of the big 10.......would push most growers back to the black market.
really hate to say this, but if it ends up like I said above......best way for the small grower to get back in the game would be call the DEA on all the big disp grows.
Yep. These big boys are going to invest money into grow ops and all these fees and think they will be protected from the DEA, and just wait when a republican president gets in there. I've said it before, this will be an effective way to kill off MMJ in Colorado.
They can never kill off the home growers who grow there own and share amongst patients (clones, meds over their limit, etc.). You know, like co-ops. I'm pretty sure those will always thrive...not much they can do about that.
i was risking an f in a non-med state 5 yrs ago. peace to you too.
