MileHighGlass
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I was going to say 3k-5k all day
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I was going to say 3k-5k all day
Bobby_Stainless
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Some guy on IG paid 110k for it...
Chump change?
iirc in that cylces of the moon rig there is like moondust in one of the marbles, and one of the marbles was shot into space or something crazy like that, maybe im just making that up...
but i'm always in favor of artists at the top of their game getting whatever someone is willing to pay, should say "as much as someone is willing to pay"
but i'm always in favor of artists at the top of their game getting whatever someone is willing to pay, should say "as much as someone is willing to pay"
..... Id like to see confirmation that the check cleared the bank...
Bobby_Stainless
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I think that is some drug dealer type bullshit, but yeah, I am glad for Sagan and Deppe.
I saw a local gas station had a sign posted on their door that on a set date they will no longer be accepting checks.
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Having a piece sell that high is great, not just for the artist who made it but for glass artists everywhere.
Functional glass art that is truly beautiful deserves to fetch the same huge prices as paintings in urban galleries, I hope this becomes a trend.
Functional glass art that is truly beautiful deserves to fetch the same huge prices as paintings in urban galleries, I hope this becomes a trend.
MileHighGlass
Senior Member
Something to keep in mind is that large growers will buy glass pieces from someone as a way of funneling money. Now the 110k doesn't seem smart, but it is possible.
I don't know all of the ins and outs, but there are people laundering money via expensive glass pieces.
Being that it is art, how can you put a price on it? The artist sets the price, and that's the price right?
I just learned about this not to long ago. Growers are driving up the prices on glass pieces just like they do on real estate here in Denver.
I don't know all of the ins and outs, but there are people laundering money via expensive glass pieces.
Being that it is art, how can you put a price on it? The artist sets the price, and that's the price right?
I just learned about this not to long ago. Growers are driving up the prices on glass pieces just like they do on real estate here in Denver.
Bobby_Stainless
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Now that makes sense. Artist kept 20, and kicked back 90 in cleaned money.
I also understand the value of art, but 110k for a 10 inch rig, is excessive. Moon rocks or not.
I also understand the value of art, but 110k for a 10 inch rig, is excessive. Moon rocks or not.
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seems like a real long shot buying glass pieces and hoping to get close to what you paid for it, especially the more expensive pieces. The artist can come up with whatever price they want, if its not sold its collecting dust somewhere. If your talking about the artist kicking back most of the sale to someone else, anything's possible but that's a huge potential charge for little relative gain to the artist.Something to keep in mind is that large growers will buy glass pieces from someone as a way of funneling money. Now the 110k doesn't seem smart, but it is possible.
I don't know all of the ins and outs, but there are people laundering money via expensive glass pieces.
Being that it is art, how can you put a price on it? The artist sets the price, and that's the price right?
I just learned about this not to long ago. Growers are driving up the prices on glass pieces just like they do on real estate here in Denver.
MileHighGlass
Senior Member
There's gain to the artist. You get way more for a piece. You get to post that someone paid this much. Then your products are worth more. you collected the extra to pay the taxes on whatever the fake sell amount was plus way more than someone would have paid for the piece in a legit transaction. Etc, Etc..
Yeah, I'm not doubting this business plan makes sense to some. When your making 100k single glass sales, you would have to assume I.R.S. goons are too stupid to understand a twenty + fold markup compared to a similar piece. If its all under the table it doesn't matter, but if you wanted to survive an audit you'd be on thin ice. A case of risk vs. reward for me really, min 3 years prison for a money laundering conviction plus 15k + fines. Plus growing up my dad got audited twice, and he works as a teacher, pretty straight job and so is he. I'm guessing MHG has some glass to move, which figures into this somehow. I get it, worked full time a few years producing ceramics and sculpture, getting a following can take time and bills need to get paid.
MileHighGlass
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huh? I'm not selling 100k pieces. We sell inexpensive pieces.
I've been audited twice, and no matter how tight you think your accounting is, it isn't.
There are always mistakes made. We are only human after all.
You're 9 time more lilely to be audited if you file. Those that have never filed will more n likely never get audited.
And before anybody starts in with the "you have to pay" bull shit, I'm going to say first that Title 26, Internal Revenue Code, has never been legally ratified.
For more info search for "Joe Bannister, ex IRS CID Agent".
And before anybody starts in with the "you have to pay" bull shit, I'm going to say first that Title 26, Internal Revenue Code, has never been legally ratified.
For more info search for "Joe Bannister, ex IRS CID Agent".
imo kinda a big deal.... the definition of a club could be (will be) broadly interpreted by law enforcement.
huh? I'm not selling 100k pieces. We sell inexpensive pieces.
I've been audited twice, and no matter how tight you think your accounting is, it isn't.
There are always mistakes made. We are only human after all.
Earlier in the thread there was mention of a 110k sale of a glass piece by Bobby.. Haven't even heard of one that high by anyone else.
yhea, maybe not THAT high, but have you been to illuzions lately? there are 10k+ pipes in there that actually turn over.... i've heard tell of some super high end denver glass going for 5 digits, which imo is pretty damn impressive for an artist to get that much for functional glass, bigups to them.
Illuzions sells nice glass. My taste runs to simple functionality like this-
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=52773&pictureid=1460027
Like all old hippies, I'd rather spend time using the pipe than cleaning it. My wife bought it for me as a retirement present. It's from Illuzions.
looks like it gets the job done without breaking the bank
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