Colorado Growers Thread

[Avinash.miles]

couple interesting links related to the whole pesticide issue going on in colorado;

first, list of approved pesticides for use in cannabis production:
https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/si... can be used to produce marijuana 12-3-15.pdf

next, criteria for pesticides
https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/si...the production of marijuana in Colorado_0.pdf


one cool thing that i found is that you can submit a product for review by the colorado dept. of ag.

 

[SooperSmurph]

couple interesting links related to the whole pesticide issue going on in colorado;

first, list of approved pesticides for use in cannabis production:
https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/si... can be used to produce marijuana 12-3-15.pdf

next, criteria for pesticides
https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/si...the production of marijuana in Colorado_0.pdf


one cool thing that i found is that you can submit a product for review by the colorado dept. of ag.

lmfao more proof they have no idea what they're doing.

So many of the exact same products under different brand names with conflicting Yes and No answers for commercial and personal use, yay!

The products that were banned, other than obvious toxins, seem utterly random, and contradictory, lobbying finally showing its ugly head, people who failed to get the right kind of attention got their products pulled?

One of my favorites? Good old Bonide is approved, Bonide House & Garden formula, which has PETROLEUM (white gasoline) in it! Yay CO State regulators! They know how to tax us, but seemingly nothing else.

 

[LakeEffect]

when I worked at a grow shop in Ohio, we sold a product for spider mites called Avid. We kept it behind the counter and sold it by the ml. Pretty sure it wasn't legal. The owner advised extreme caution when handling it. You didn't want to get it on your skin. I don't see it on that list

 

[Avinash.miles]

nope, avid definitely is not on the approved for use list, rather it's on the "big no-no" list:
http://www.thecannabist.co/2015/10/05/colorado-proposes-stricter-rules-pot-pesticide-use/41907/

smurph: i'm just glad the state got it's act together enough to make a LIST< now that it's been compiled we can talk about what is ON the list. petroleum oil is pretty common pesticide, i'd never use it,or even suggest that others use it; but it's a widely used accepted mode of pest control in general (non-cannabis) agriculture. it's not the states job to tell people how to grow good herb... just how NOT to grow BAD herb.... (spray some flowers with petroleum oil right before harvest, submit it to the MED / CDA, and maybe some of those products would be taken off the list)

 

[Ganoderma]

(spray some flowers with petroleum oil right before harvest, submit it to the MED / CDA, and maybe some of those products would be taken off the list)

They need to include a time frame to that list.

 

[Avinash.miles]

exactly, ganoderma!
but like i said, it's not up to the state to tell/teach peeps how to grow fire herb (ain't that kinda what icmag is for? ) just protect patients and rec consumers from being poisoned. i duno if smoking some petroleum oil laced herb is any worse than eating a hotdog or smoking a cheap cigar/ cigarettes....

once agian, im just glad the state finally put a damn list together....

 

[Ganoderma]

i duno if smoking some petroleum oil laced herb is any worse than eating a hotdog or smoking a cheap cigar/ cigarettes....

Or breathing in all of those burnt petroleum gasses that all of those cars and trucks spew out.

 

[Ganoderma]

exactly, ganoderma!
but like i said, it's not up to the state to tell/teach peeps how to grow fire herb (ain't that kinda what icmag is for? ) just protect patients and rec consumers from being poisoned.

once agian, im just glad the state finally put a damn list together....

I've been telling my Doctors that "this" cyclic vomiting is from the shit that people have been spraying on their shit they have been growing and selling at the stores. Since all of these recalls due to pesticides, I haven't heard one peep negative this or that at my visits.

 

[Avinash.miles]

i have my own beliefs about "cannabis hypermesis syndrome"...
i'm sure it could be related to pesticide residue...

soon the labs will actually test a sampe from every batch before it hits shelves, like the law requires, then we won't be dealing with this recall bullshit.
imo the state is criminally negligent in it's oversight of the industry... in know that sounds fucked to say because the general atmosphere is that the overregulation of the industry & plant in general is BAD (i agree that regulating personal use of plant is wrong, like plant counts) but for the INDUSTRY there have to be standards.
IF the state required industry to test product for all parameters including pesticide/fungicide residuals (even biological tests for live spores, might lead down some sketchy flash heat sterilized herb scene) and required that labs be able to test for residuals before licensing them, and required tests be done on at least a large part of batches before hitting the shelves...
recalls wouldnt' be happening
there is a class action suit of patients against some company that can all prove being given herb from tainted batches....
that prolly wouldn't be happening either if the state upheld it's side of the bargain of regulating this industry along the channels that the legislature (hb 1284 and everything since it) has put forward.
\rant

 

[Bobby_Stainless]

Check these lil jokers out.

 

[!RA!]

Check these lil jokers out.
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What are you feeding them? They look nice and thick and healthy. Mine tend to be skinny and stretchy even close to the lights.

 

[!RA!]

Regarding an Icmag event, the powers that be spoke out against it. I understand their reasons so I can't be too disappointed.

In the mean time there are smaller scale cool events to check out and attend. For instance, The Frost Bowl that Mary Jane's Haberdasher is putting on - https://www.facebook.com/events/1496408250654253/ would probably be a cool one to check out. Does anybody know of any other similar type small scale cups going on?

Out of curiosity, what were their reasons for the nay vote?

 

[who dat is]

Check these lil jokers out.
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What are you feeding them? They look nice and thick and healthy. Mine tend to be skinny and stretchy even close to the lights.

They almost look more like ground cover than weed plants. Are those some Sour Bubble or Afghani crosses?

Out of curiosity, what were their reasons for the nay vote?

They cited the TOU, member safety, and past experiences with old format cannabis cups in Amsterdam. They handled it very well and didn't shoot me down hard. I still hope that as laws change and progress that this would certainly be a possibility on down the road, who knows? Until then, I would pay attention to your more local grassroots events and cups.

 

[!RA!]

They almost look more like ground cover than weed plants. Are those some Sour Bubble or Afghani crosses?



They cited the TOU, member safety, and past experiences with old format cannabis cups in Amsterdam. They handled it very well and didn't shoot me down hard. I still hope that as laws change and progress that this would certainly be a possibility on down the road, who knows? Until then, I would pay attention to your more local grassroots events and cups.

Thanks who dat. I may check out the one you mentioned down in Pueblo. Forgive the noob question, but what is TOU? I keep seeing it pop up but don't know what it is.

 

[Avinash.miles]

TOU = terms of use

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=274670

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=184917

 

[who dat is]

Thanks who dat. I may check out the one you mentioned down in Pueblo. Forgive the noob question, but what is TOU? I keep seeing it pop up but don't know what it is.

TOU = terms of use

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=274670

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=184917

Specifically this one,

17. Social events: Outside of events that take place in Amsterdam, 4:20 cup, High Times cup etc we do not condone, encourage, nor permit discussions for private meet-ups. It is our hope that members retain their anonymity afforded them through the use of this site. Any member who attempts to solicit or arrange meet-ups is subject to immediate banishment. It is ultimately up to each member to protect their own identity by remaining anonymous at all times. Posts pertaining to private meet-ups/social events via VM's, reported PM's, or events not approved by Admin will be deleted. If you wish to make known an event, you must contact Admin for event approval prior to posting.

Again, I hope that as laws change and the stance on cannabis gets more relaxed with eventual legalization at the federal level we won't have to worry about these things anymore.

 

[Jhhnn]

i have my own beliefs about "cannabis hypermesis syndrome"...
i'm sure it could be related to pesticide residue...

soon the labs will actually test a sampe from every batch before it hits shelves, like the law requires, then we won't be dealing with this recall bullshit.
imo the state is criminally negligent in it's oversight of the industry... in know that sounds fucked to say because the general atmosphere is that the overregulation of the industry & plant in general is BAD (i agree that regulating personal use of plant is wrong, like plant counts) but for the INDUSTRY there have to be standards.
IF the state required industry to test product for all parameters including pesticide/fungicide residuals (even biological tests for live spores, might lead down some sketchy flash heat sterilized herb scene) and required that labs be able to test for residuals before licensing them, and required tests be done on at least a large part of batches before hitting the shelves...
recalls wouldnt' be happening
there is a class action suit of patients against some company that can all prove being given herb from tainted batches....
that prolly wouldn't be happening either if the state upheld it's side of the bargain of regulating this industry along the channels that the legislature (hb 1284 and everything since it) has put forward.
\rant

I thought the issue w/ mold & mold spores is that the stuff is alive & might grow in your lungs rather than the chemistry. Or am I wrong?

Yeh, sure, better grown weed will have less mold & fewer spores than otherwise, but there's always some unless it's sterilized.

I figure if it were as big an issue as some make it out to be then a lot of old tokers from the 60's would be long dead from it rather than from other reckless psychonaut misadventures.

 

[Ganoderma]

Specifically this one,



Again, I hope that as laws change and the stance on cannabis gets more relaxed with eventual legalization at the federal level we won't have to worry about these things anymore.

When it's made legal at the Federal level is the key.

 

[!RA!]

I see, thanks all for the TOU clarification, makes sense now.

 

[Seaf0ur]

When it's made legal at the Federal level is the key.

I think its best to have more states legalize as opposed to a new blanket system being ironclad put in place while we are clearly are still figuring things out with regard to health and safety and logistics...
I dont want cannabis regulated by the people who cant fix the roads or the DMV and who are bringing in unskilled people while we still have homeless war veterans...
In my eyes, as long as there is a single solitary homeless war veteran who fought for our freedoms and cannot get assistance, we are officially full.
These people in Washington cannot be trusted to tie their shoes properly... and they are all sell-outs.