Colombian Landrace Sativa 2012

[RandyCalifornia]

From what I see in that Colombian herb study Charlie posted, where the strongest herb came from on that map is inconsequential. I think you can grow good herb all over Colombia, it's more about the genetics in the seed you start with(as well as local weather conditions), that's more important then the area it's grown, at least that is my opinion.

 

[bigherb]

Red rider

That Corinto Sounds Delicious from taste too effect an you know what they say too much of of good thing can be bad for you lol .Interesting though you note the uplifting spiritual effect but than the burnout .Sounds similar to Some Africans which can be energetic that fade into a sedation


Happy to hear you have decided on a house Best whises ,I look forward to your future Garden


Charlie Garcia

My Brother Glad too see you posting

Your a wealth of knowledge your insight an experience is always appreciated .

Thanks for the link

Im curious to know your opinion/experience ,Of the colombian an Thai strains which has been the longer flowering ?

After looking at the Map you provided it brought the topic to mind again of the Long flowering equatorials an the fact Colombia southern part sits on the equator .You also note the PR come from both north an South an its stated to take almost 6 months to flower that is probably the longest Flowering time of availble stock today


Another interesting note is its been said the faster flowering colombians were introduced to the market in the mid to late 70's .which coincides with the article sayin the increased cultivation began in colombia in 1975 after the Nam war ended . Which also makes sense why the Thai an other S.E asian's started to fade after 75 .No more soliders to transport it back to the US


Randy

Thankyou for your contributions aswell

I agree IME genetics is the #1 Factor in overall quality



1luvbigherb

 

[Rinse]

I think many hard hitting and racy sativa's can drag you down with the high as it fades, its the subtle clear head sativa's that can leave without a trace, or even leave you fresh with energy after the high wears off, these are special lines like Ethiopian Highlands and I hear some Mexicans and Vietnamese are like this.
To me these effects are far more valueble than the highest THC hybrids,
there is a warm richness to the high, with enhanced creativity.

 

[ThaiBliss]

I think many hard hitting and racy sativa's can drag you down with the high as it fades, its the subtle clear head sativa's that can leave without a trace, or even leave you fresh with energy after the high wears off, these are special lines like Ethiopian Highlands and I hear some Mexicans and Vietnamese are like this.
To me these effects are far more valueble than the highest THC hybrids,
there is a warm richness to the high, with enhanced creativity.

Rinse, I whole heartily agree. A whole bunch of great weed came to mind as I was reading your post. But, sometimes the "drag you down" effects of hard hitters can be mitigated with proper titration. I don't know how many times I have shared killer strong weed that I love, and have heard people say they smoked a joint and they were terribly paranoid, or way too high. They hated it. Then I think holy shit, you smoked a whole joint of that! I would never have even considered smoking that much of the killer strong weed. People just get in a particular smoking habit, and don't adjust to the new unique circumstances. I think they miss out on unique experiences that they can have with proper titration.

For what it's worth... my two cents,

ThaiBliss

 

[charlie garcia]

Strongest herb seems to come from the cripa areas, dont think local sativas had such high THC. As long ago stated by R Clarke, lots of Colombianas seem to have some CBD too and you can feel it in your eyes getting little heavier when smoked.

The Punto Rojo release can be selected in 16 weeks but latest individuals may require 20-22 weeks. St Marta is thin and very tall sativa and long flowering. Male structure is more delicate, not much vigorous and finished in 16 weeks in fact. Comes from central part of the country.

Pics of a cross Corinto/Punto Rojo, nice colors but not too long lasting effect. Initial rush and cerebral high but gave me a bit of headache as well. (Pics were uploaded somewhere else but cant find them so do it again)

Some effects of strong sativas general may leave you exhausted due lots of tension and energy spent, you know those kind of highs were 5 initial minutes seem to last hours
best
kaiki

 

[red rider]

Sorry I had to step out for a bit. All this information seems to be true to my experience and is much appreciated. I'll elaborate asap right now I'm focusing on relocating. And one factor I'd like to add is I live in a "zona fria" and although the temps are above freezing, it feels cold. But my seedlings are thriving! More soon and thanks to all the great posts!

red rider

 

[Raco]

Made a cross in the past with a Panama but didnt catched much attention it seemed.

And I made the same cross at the same time...and both sets of seed were shared...and afaik, those were hoarded...for sure

I crossed one of the F1 males to a Tom´s Haze girl...scary highs LOL

 

[charlie garcia]

jeje more pics of the "big colombia" cross, Panama/Punto Rojo.

There are territorial, politic and narco issues in the country which makes not so easy to access to some areas
best
kaiki

 

[Rinse]

Rinse, I whole heartily agree. A whole bunch of great weed came to mind as I was reading your post. But, sometimes the "drag you down" effects of hard hitters can be mitigated with proper titration. I don't know how many times I have shared killer strong weed that I love, and have heard people say they smoked a joint and they were terribly paranoid, or way too high. They hated it. Then I think holy shit, you smoked a whole joint of that! I would never have even considered smoking that much of the killer strong weed. People just get in a particular smoking habit, and don't adjust to the new unique circumstances. I think they miss out on unique experiences that they can have with proper titration.

For what it's worth... my two cents,

ThaiBliss

Hi Thai, for sure dosage plays a big part, also links in with the very high ceiling of these sativa's, compared to many indi/hybrids that seem to bottom out and you cannot get any higher after a while, only more dopey.

Seems most folk associate the paranoid high with sativa's across the board, which isn't fair really, a lot of the time they are harvested too early, or they are growing the new stuff like c99 (I hear its edgy)

Some effects of strong sativas general may leave you exhausted due lots of tension and energy spent, you know those kind of highs were 5 initial minutes seem to last hours
best
kaiki

Yeah I've been there all too often, neurons in overdrive lol... Quite releiving when it starts wearing off and the mellow part of the high comes in.
Nice pics as always kaiki

 

[red rider]

Beautiful pictures Kaiki, thanks. Colombian in general is in no way racy, trippy, euphoric and in most cases calming but never really racy. Some Colombians like the blacks have a very sleepy narcotic effect, while some of the lighter gold's are motivational and energetic. The "regs" or what I call domestic sativa is indeed low in potency when compared to white rhino or rippin dabs of oil. However sometimes I prefer smoking more and not getting fried and the regs work well for this. I have never had regs that didn't have an effect but some have a negative quality that I consider bad. Now I'm really enjoying the recent sample of cripy I have, its very potent in a good way. I smoked all the purple Corinto except one nice bud I'm saving to photograph. I started liking it too as I guess I adjusted to the effect, I've never had anything give me the munchies like that stuff. Anyway should be moved soon and I hope to have some new plants to show.

red rider

 

[red rider]

Two Colombians go into a bar..

Two Colombians go into a bar..

Here are two very different Colombian sativa. Both are from high altitude, the one on the left is SMG, on the right Punto Rojo.

red rider

 

[bigherb]

Red

They look like they are off to a good start

I see you checked the GH StrainHunters Colombia Video ,those plants were sexy .Im curious too see the full episode

I found this interesting Video which speaks abit about the same name strains grown in different regions an varying Flowering times .The mention of inpurity an crippy being that Dutchish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVuJ6UVkHig


Much Thanks an props again to Kaiki an others for there preserving an spreading


1luvbigherb

 

[RandyCalifornia]

Wow, Great Video bigherb! I caught some of the script but it would sure be nice to know what all of it says. Is there any way to translate this?
This thread never fails to inspire me to break into my cans of OxPR and just smoke a little more. This stuff is all euphoria and good vibes, no speed or paranoia, just pure IRIE!
The buds on the three plants I love most from those OxPR looked like scorpions with their fox tailed calyx's and every bud had a curve to it.

 

[stonfofish]

i love This thread

i love This thread

Wow, Great Video bigherb! I caught some of the script but it would sure be nice to know what all of it says. Is there any way to translate this?
This thread never fails to inspire me to break into my cans of OxPR and just smoke a little more. This stuff is all euphoria and good vibes, no speed or paranoia, just pure IRIE!
The buds on the three plants I love most from those OxPR looked like scorpions with their fox tailed calyx's and every bud had a curve to it.
View Image

Beautiful colas bro

 

[charlie garcia]

Video talks about old article in spanish magazine Cañamo but the say nothing too new or interesting apart of magazine scaning. Mentions 3 types of Punto Rojo, the mentioned variability depending on area and phenos, bt those names are kinda "local" to define them too. Talked to that colombian guy who wrote the article long ago in Spain, a pitty he wasnt going back to Colombia but nice young guy and nice talk

Feel the euphoria in your words Randy Popped some myself now how not, cross is 3 years old and all popped out well

Is not a question of potency and Rinse said well, is a different balance. Reason why dozen of other cross dont work to me same way and there is not way to know before. Guess we all look for extra quality if thats ever possible or ever defined, the 1+1=3

For the look is a Oaxaca leaning but longer foxtails and continous flowering belongs to colombian side.

THC 9,81% CBD 0,15% is Oxacan tested results in lab. PR not tested yet

Nice video from Colombia by GH. Beautiful country. You cannot go into some areas without permissions is a fact. Local tribes have some rights on certain territories. Some areas are controlled by narcos, others by farcs, some comes from "paramilitar" areas. Other just by farmers. Some smoke, some have never smoked. Plenty of vitality and salsa music everywhere

Looking good RR, old or present plants?
best
kaiki

 

[ThaiBliss]

Hi Charlie,

If you have any good pictures of Mangobiche, I'd love to see more here. I know everyone loves buds, but please don't forget to include close ups of leaf shapes. For me they are easier to remember and associate leaf shapes to particular strains than bud shots.

Thanks,

ThaiBliss

 

[red rider]

Hola Kaiki, those are foto's from 2005 (old).However I am growing some that are very similar. I saw the GH video and I really hate the trading of seed but what can you do? Colombia is a great country filled with very nice people, of course you must be careful here. Great climate, great food and drugs (I personally have no use for cocaine) but lets not forget the beautiful Colombian ladies (god knows I can't forget mine). If you ever come to Colombia you will fall in love.
red rider

 

[charlie garcia]

hi ThaiBliss
Best grow of Mangobiches I saw was done by JGL, pics must be around somewhere. Mines are always seeded Havent taken many pics lately. Few detail leafs. All tests done were very satisfiying

"Colombian ladies (god knows I can't forget mine)" I cant forget mines either, be sure lol both colombianas

I used to talk about sticky and thin plants of PR like in your picture I used to do when younger and instead of bushes some used to mention

best

 

[yesum]

Wow, Great Video bigherb! I caught some of the script but it would sure be nice to know what all of it says. Is there any way to translate this?
This thread never fails to inspire me to break into my cans of OxPR and just smoke a little more. This stuff is all euphoria and good vibes, no speed or paranoia, just pure IRIE!
The buds on the three plants I love most from those OxPR looked like scorpions with their fox tailed calyx's and every bud had a curve to it.
View Image

Sounds great. How does this compare to Panama Red from Cannabiogen or ACE in terms of high?

 

[RandyCalifornia]

Yes, yesum it is great, very satisfying smoke.
I am just growing some Panama now, I'll let you know how it compares in the high in a few months, if Jah bless .