CMH vs LED vs HPS

[bigtacofarmer]

He is not growing Thai he is growing Cookies and OG crosses but you need to defend your friend that is all right man. I will also do that. Im ok with that just dont post funny qotes.

I put my Jack herer which has better bag appeal than his Truffle and OG's you and I know there is something wrong.

Your friend grows mids and thats is it,no mather how you like him. That is reality.

You defend the indefensible...maybe you have skill to be good lawyer.

I'm not defending anyone. I was making a point.

You sure seem to like to assume your herb is somehow better than others. And you have never met or smoked with these people. You place your jack and widow high on a pedestal and insult everyone else. Most of us have seen enough flaws in what you say to discount the rest of your opinions as nothing but hot air.

If Jack and widow were still that relevant more people would grow it. I tossed my widow clone in 2007. Because everything else in the garden produced better smoke. I would have tried some jack seeds but nothing anyone has smoked with me has compared to the jack I smoked with jack herer. I'm sure there are amazing plants of both in circulation. But I don't give a fuck. I prefer other strains.

 

[Jellyfish]

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Ok here is some Bubblegum under leds...as you can see @Crooked8 you can see those are right grown even at 35 days of flower still month to go.

Every fucking drug on earth crystals means quality from pot to coke....we need resin not weight of buds.

Compare this to your Afghanis you posted they are mids at the best...they dont have resin.
If I come to US all you rednecks will say. "He took ur job..."
Im fucking Mozzart of growing weed...remeber that.

THIS is the pic you show to demonstrate that you're the 'fucking Mozzart of growing weed'? Also, thanks for mansplaining what crystals mean- wow man, I did not know that, lol. Haha yes, you are the "Mozzart" of bullshit- remeber THAT!

 

[CannaT]

I'm not defending anyone. I was making a point.

You sure seem to like to assume your herb is somehow better than others. And you have never met or smoked with these people. You place your jack and widow high on a pedestal and insult everyone else. Most of us have seen enough flaws in what you say to discount the rest of your opinions as nothing but hot air.

If Jack and widow were still that relevant more people would grow it. I tossed my widow clone in 2007. Because everything else in the garden produced better smoke. I would have tried some jack seeds but nothing anyone has smoked with me has compared to the jack I smoked with jack herer. I'm sure there are amazing plants of both in circulation. But I don't give a fuck. I prefer other strains.

You are lost in space man I told that I get better plants with old school genetics than he who grows new ones Cookies have better bag appeal and Truffle and other strains than Jack and White widow or old school Bubblegum.
So as you can see he is even worts grower than I think he is.
I will post my cookies and og's under leds so you can se what I am talking about.

 

[CannaT]

THIS is the pic you show to demonstrate that you're the 'fucking Mozzart of growing weed'? Also, thanks for mansplaining what crystals mean- wow man, I did not know that, lol. Haha yes, you are the "Mozzart" of bullshit- remeber THAT!

You are here more than 12 years not a 1 grow from you....it all say about you.
Im god of grow for you....

 

[bigtacofarmer]

You are lost in space man I told that I get better plants with old school genetics than he who grows new ones Cookies have better bag appeal and Truffle and other strains than Jack and White widow or old school bubblegum.
So as you can see he is even worts grower than I think he is.
I will post my cookies and og's under leds so you can se what I am talking about.

I'm genuinely not interested in judging pics. I like to smoke. I like complex terpenes and a good psychedelic head high. Bag appeal and pics are a joke. All that they do is show if the plant is healthy or not. Roll a fat joint and smoke it. Let it go out. See how high you get. Re light the second half and see if you get higher and if it still tastes great. If it doesn't have a great high or taste great until the end. It's poop. Period. Fuck bag appeal.

 

[CannaT]

I'm genuinely not interested in judging pics. I like to smoke. I like complex terpenes and a good psychedelic head high. Bag appeal and pics are a joke. All that do is show if the plant is healthy or not. Roll a fat joint and smoke it. Let it go out. See how high you get. Re light the second half and see if you get higher and if it still tastes great. If it doesn't have a great high or taste great until the end. It's poop. Period. Fuck bag appeal.

I get it what you say my plants that have less stress during life more resin,more terps...and geneticaly they have less resin than truffle,cookies,Og's.

In this comparassion have more resin than his plants that are grow mainly for taste and bag appeal...truffles,cookies etc...

You say that maybe his plants are better ?

Wher is your science now ???

Now you dont care about stress that plant had during life,you dont care about optimum conditions..I dont care about bag appeal I grow Widow and Jack.

Man you are also start becomimg clown with your posts that are full of shit.
Like your friend growing shit.

Dont touch poop it will smell more. Do know that ?

Anyway you are on clown list for now on...dont care about your opinion at all.

 

[bigtacofarmer]

I get it what you say my plants that have less stress during life more resin,more terps...and geneticaly they have less resin than truffle,cookies,Og's.

In this comparassion have more resin than his plants that are grow mainly for taste and bag appeal...truffles,cookies etc...

You say that maybe his plants are better ?

Wher is your science now ???

Now you dont care about stress that plant had during life,you dont care about optimum conditions..I dont care about bag appeal I grow Widow and Jack.

Man you are also start becomimg clown with your posts that are full of shit.
Like your friend growing shit.

Dont touch poop it will smell more. Do know that ?

Anyway you are on clown list for now on...dont care about your opinion at all.

You can't see it, I'm mooning you.

I don't take your opinions seriously. They are all self serving. Go get some of these people high that you keep talking down to. Or shut up.

 

[Jellyfish]

You are here more than 12 years not a 1 grow from you....it all say about you.
Im god of grow for you....

I live in an illegal state, so it's not cool to show my activities. I'm glad you responded tho, so more people can see the REAL you. Jerkoff.

 

[CannaT]

I live in an illegal state, so it's not cool to show my activities. I'm glad you responded tho, so more people can see the REAL you. Jerkoff.

Yes and I grow in gov. science set up...
You ...

If you have no balls go to some sissy sites what to wear this spring/ summer...what fashion is in and what is out.

 

[CannaT]

You can't see it, I'm mooning you.

I don't take your opinions seriously. They are all self serving. Go get some of these people high that you keep talking down to. Or shut up.

I dont smoke mids....one smart man that I consider drugs expert by name Mick Jagger told once...If you do drugs do only hq ones...or dont touch them.

I smoke propper grown or I dont smoke....whats the point of smoking mids...my weed open my brain.

Your mids of you and your friend just make people have bad breath.



P.S. if he grow 8 week flowering strains that bad...what will be with Jack which minimum flower for 12 weeks...it will be Jack's hay...hahahah

Pro growers of mids...put some PGR in your "exotics" than they will look like propper mid fire.

Anyway is stupid to talk with clowns I gived you recipe for how to grow great weed.
Thats my point here,Im not here for clowns I have circus for that.

 

[bigtacofarmer]

I dont smoke mids....one smart man that I consider drugs expert by name Mick Jagger told once...If you do drugs do only hq ones...or dont touch them.

I smoke propper grown or I dont smoke....whats the point of smoking mids...my weed open my brain.

Your mids of you and your friend just make people have bad breath.



P.S. if he grow 8 week flowering strains that bad...what will be with Jack which minimum flower for 12 weeks...it will be Jack's hay...hahahah

Pro growers of mid...put some PGR in your "exotics."

Its easy to see why some other people lose their temper at you.


I would love to go into more detail but you do great at digging your own holes. I'm glad you think your herb is better than others. Maybe someday you will smoke with one of us and our minds will be totally blown.


Certainly would not be surprised if we are not amazed.

 

[Jellyfish]

Yes and I grow in gov. science set up...
You ...

If you have no balls go to some sissy sites what to wear this spring/ summer...what is fashion in and what is out.

That's right, keep showing everybody who you are, "Mozzart"!

 

[wild cat]

:UPS::niepewny: this light ?

 

[wild cat]

Musisz mieć gavita pro 1000W

 

[Hammerhead]

Told u before, bring any light expert or scientists that say you can add up the intensity with same source intensity, I'm waiting wise ass

present you with facts about each tech, you keep denying them and show us purple flowers again, so who has basic understanding and whos not bud ?
Show me where my science is wrong please unread of telling us how happy you are from your agrobars

Sorry bro, we've been over this, light bleaching is heat related, I never bleached my plants from light, I worked with every watt possible from 250 to 1000, if you bleached your plants, you got too close with heat.
When I used cool tubes shit my plants were 10 cm from 400/600w bulbs, still no bleaching, weird huh ?

Your op looks killer I'll give you that
Still, it won't change the facts or science behind each tech.

No, I meant that some data in science people think applys in real life, when it's not.
Like adding intensity, or thinking spectrum maps will make their bud better
Reality show us different
In the battle between science nerds and reality I will choose reality thank you.

Leave them, they don't like to address data and science, they just like to show purple flowers and shout they are the best !

You are the only one who deny science my friend, i told u the science behind those lights, you still think it's not true, keep growing with your walmart lights, science backs them up

Anyone who genuinely wants true knowledge on each tech and it's uses you better keep reading, but ignore people who use led purple flowers as evidence as we all know how they smoke and what they worth haha

Lol hahaha then counter me instead of wearing us out again
with your BS explanations

You can't adress what I said cuz reality and you are so far apart, if you had any knowledge about this topic you would have said something smarter, but you don't.

Just cuz you have a hard time understanding the real numbers and science behind each tech doesn't mean other people too.

He expects you to understand I meant resin producing plants which is weed duh that's why we are here, instead of trying to make yourself look smart and finding redwoods growing under CFLs, come on buddy.. even you know you are just like to talk nonsense that is not related to anything.

More then LEDs that's fosure
Maybe your lab tests say otherwise, I'll stick to my smoke tests.

Yes, the "ppfd" of the sun changes from place to place and even every hour it changes, what doesn't change is the intensity of it, the strength of it.

It can never be a replacement for hid please understand the science behind led and hid, you cannot add up intensity please why you keep fighting such basic concepts that are known for years
If you don't spread the light with LEDs you can throw them away as it's the only advantage they have.

Huh ??? Your diodes make 200 lux, most people don't grow with 20w cfl but with the higher rating ones, go look at Crooked8 chart again, are you blind ? You compare a 1500 lux source to a 200 lux source ? Now we're gonna start comparing surface area of each emitter ? You think if u added another 200 lux source you somehow now have the rate of a 400 lm source ?
I take back what I said about you, your not a nerd, your just dumb.

Lol the gaps are nothing that matters, their output is what matters, and it's the same friend, realize this, I'll give u a couple of moments.

I'm not asking for any opinions on what I'm using or watching. Maybe you believe what you post but don't expect anyone else to do the same. Arguing is useless.. There are no winners.

 

[Ca++]

yes, i typically use screens and fill them horizontally almost completely, then let the shoots achieve some depth. 3d

They should be a useful tool then. You can get a few more days worth of stretch out of them, if you can see they won't quite get as big as you wanted. This enables me to flower that little bit sooner, as I don't need the safety of growing them a bit bigger (and then the extra training work required to control those bigger plants). I set out not expecting to use the extra lamps, but knowing I can promote some stretch with them if needed (and a bit of P to enable extra frame growth)

Having moved to LED/HID I don't have any speed control over stretch. Traditionally we don't anyway. However, my first run, and I really wanted to turn the stretch down. Which I think blue light can do. Along with brushing and manipulation, but that's physical work. Blue or UV to reduce stretch is also just theory, and might be of no use with a whooping great HID to contend with.

 

[snakedope]

I'm not asking for any opinions on what I'm using or watching. Maybe you believe what you post but don't expect anyone else to do the same. Arguing is useless.. There are no winners.

Not asking you to believe reality my friend, there's plenty of blind people with open eyes
This is a discussion about the tech of each light, we are not trying to win anything.
Just laying down the facts, believe whatever you want, I love your grows, I also mixed some panels with my hid grows and it was very good, can't tell you what made it good the led or the hid but combine them and that's a good start

 

[Jellyfish]

Anyway is stupid to talk with clowns I gived you recipe for how to grow great weed.

Yes, you 'gived' it to us. Thanks, Einstein!

 

[Hammerhead]

Not asking you to believe reality my friend, there's plenty of blind people with open eyes
This is a discussion about the tech of each light, we are not trying to win anything.
Just laying down the facts, believe whatever you want, I love your grows, I also mixed some panels with my hid grows and it was very good, can't tell you what made it good the led or the hid but combine them and that's a good start

The prob is it's your reality. You kids can't seem to grasp that. What others do has no impact on your world. I'm happy with the quality I grow using the lights I have nothing posted by someone else will change that. Everyone has already posted the same info countless times. What else could you possibly post that would make a difference at this point?. Let others do their thing, whether you agree isn't really the point lol.

 

[Jellyfish]

I'm happy with the quality I grow using the lights I have nothing posted by someone else will change that.

With all due respect, then why are you on a thread for comparing different kinds of lights?