You are both on the same side of the debate, whether you were both just wrong is a matter of opinion, I guess. I'm not here to pick a fight, I just stated my opinion that what snakedope said and what you say he said, were two different things. That's it.
What was the name-calling? I re-read all three posts, and didn't see it. Anyway. I'll pick one thing for you to address, since you asked me to, and I'm curious to read your answer. Address this quote from snakedope's post- "Cfl has been doing it for years, but with more success in the oils department, as they are usually more then 1500lm at source, they can squeeze a bit more from resin plants"
Ill start here, cannabis is not a “resin plant”, it is categorized as an herbaceous plant although it does produce a resinous material. Heres a list of Resin Plants…
viribright.com
| Lumens (Brightness) | Incandescent Watts | CFL Watts | LED Watts (Viribright) |
| 400 – 500 | 40W | 8 – 12W | 6 – 7W |
| 650 – 850 | 60W | 13 – 18W | 7 – 10W |
| 1000 – 1400 | 75W | 18 – 22W | 12 – 13W |
| 1450-1700+ | 100W | 23 – 30W | 14 – 20W |
| 2700+ | 150W | 30 – 55W | 25 – 28W |
So, instead of really addressing my quote, you're just going to micro focus on the fact that he said "resin plant" when he clearly meant 'resin-PRODUCING'. It's all part of a kind of arrogant ah vibe I'm getting from your posts, so I think I'll just bail on addressing your posts directly now. Now, THAT'S some name-calling.
So did you miss the chart on cfl lm output? Youre choosing to take it as arrogance when im dissecting the quote and breaking it down. Snake sure posts like he understands the science with the numbers he shares. I was simply fact checking. And i dont care if you no longer address me. How the fuck am I supposed to know he meant “resin producing” when he said “resin plant”. I assumed he meant another category had testing done under cfl he was familiar with. You seem to just be defending someone who multiple people clearly have a hard time understanding. I apologize if my thoroughness was somehow perceived as arrogant. I even mentioned trying to find resin plants produced under cfl, didnt seem to turn up anything. Im very curious what you expected instead of what i did? The only resin related cfl stuff i found seemed to be targeted of course at cannabis and i didnt see anything regarding terpene or cannabinoid production being higher under cfl than anything else. If you challenge me to fact check something, im gonna. One thing you can also call me is thorough, arrogant is your perception and choice to assign to me. Again, very curious how you thought this would go, regardless nothing corroborates snakes babbling. I am truly sorry if I sounded rude, truly not my intention. Im here to learn and show others my experience.
I could say the same thing about people who insist that LED's are the best thing in the world for growing weed, period. I mean, this isn't the Let's All Worship LED's thread, is it?
Im just gonna keep posting here about my newest Led setup and if anyone cares, great, if they wanna hate, im fine with that. You have the right idea.
Loving your work too brother. Ive got two beleaf chimera #2 seedlings going rn they are maybe 18 in tall. Gonna flower them soon. Have you tried or know anything about the #2? That cut youve got looks bonkers.
It only matters what you like
. I prefer CMH for veg and a mix LED/CMH in flower.
Except the farther away from the source lightbulb the less light the plant will receive.To further explain reality concepts to science people, with LEDs all you did was putting 200 lm in each spot of the space, but that's it, you still have just that, 200 lm per sec everywhere
Very good, you can grow all kinds of things with this amazing low light per sec arrays
Cfl has been doing it for years, but with more success in the oils department, as they are usually more then 1500lm at source, they can squeeze a bit more from resin plants
@Vegg69guerilla got it right with his hps 400, though it might not veg the same like a led array, it's the source strength that counts
A plant doesn't need to be directly underneath a high strength source to know it's there, it can be further away from it, just like we see in nature, some places are closer to the sun some further but we see dank from both places, why ? cuz in both places the source strength is the same, the sun is not different in australia or canada , just how much light each place get is different, weird how reality work...
Anyway, if a 400 hps is like the sun regarding it's source strength, just imagine a 1000w one... We all know what they can do
No wonder people report a stronger smoke with same clones under 400w and under 1000w... It all adds up now.
OGcrown on IG is running a full room using Growers Choice TSL800. I'll be watching his results with those. Suppose to be a direct 1:1 HID replacement LED. Ive not seen any run those yet. I like the Footprint of those LEDS. These are 800W. Also, the Tarantula Vulcan Borg is another im watching from grandmasterLED, its a beast at 1500w.
