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[Donald Mallard]

There can be some scary stuff in some of the thai dave,
need to check your setting and mood before indulging with some,
i guess thats what they refer to as tripping weed ,
gets a bit scary sometimes ...
in the right setting it can be fantastic..

I hope you find some of that ,
thats fun stuff to share with friends that think sativa is a bit weak ,, hehehe ..

 

[mrmop]

Thais lookin great!

 

[Dave Coulier]

Durban Poison F Cobbed

Durban Poison F Cobbed

Well everyone I finally got around to buying a vacuum sealer, so I could attempt the cob curing method Tangwena has documented in his thread. I had some Durban Poison F almost ready to come down from the secondary harvest, and figured it would be the perfect opportunity.

I got 14 grams from the secondary harvest. Not quite the 1-2 oz Tang recommends, but Im making a Durban Pencil instead I suppose. Either way I hope for good things from it.

Ive been reading the Malawi thread Tang, but would appreciate any tips, pointers you want to throw my way.

Incredibly colorful buds..Hues of Greens, purples, and fiery orange hairs, oh my!

 

[Dave Coulier]

Continued

Continued

 

[dank.frank]

Beautiful!!!



dank.Frank

 

[onefinity]

Amazing work Dave!

 

[t99]

Are you using dried husks? I thought the moisture and sugars in fresh husks helped with the cure/fermentation. Should still work either way, good luck!

 

[Tangwena]

Hi Dave love your pics the THai is amazing you have controlled her so well.
As t99 said above you have got to use green husks, it does help in the sweat, but if the buds are still moist enough it will help to start sweating.
I would leave them in the vac bag for 3 weeks as the husks were dry. You can open after 2 weeks to check and then reseal for another week.
The buds look very dense so they will take a bit longer. If all goes well when you open the cob after 3 weeks it should be very moist and smell almost sickly sweet.
If you get this happen then you are on the money, just let it dry slowly, try not to let it dry fast.
After another week of drying you can store it in a jar or wrapped in a plastic bag it will keep forever. The longer you store it the better it gets but peeks at about 9 to 12 months old. They dont usualy last longer than that as they get consumed, but I have some going on 4 years old in my cellar and they still get me messed up ha ha
The high will be very different to the dry cured buds, you will think its a different plant altogether if the cure is good.
Respect my friend you may have found a new way to enjoy the fruits of your labor.
Tangwena

 

[Dave Coulier]

There can be some scary stuff in some of the thai dave,
need to check your setting and mood before indulging with some,
i guess thats what they refer to as tripping weed ,
gets a bit scary sometimes ...
in the right setting it can be fantastic..

I hope you find some of that ,
thats fun stuff to share with friends that think sativa is a bit weak ,, hehehe ..

I hope I find something that takes me on a wild ride out of the remaining ladies. The trippiest weed for me so far has been Sam's HazeSkunk, and considering there is some Thai in there, I should be on the right path.

It should be fun comparing the difference in effects between jar-curing and cob-curing. I hope the cob-cured buds really rock me in a whole new way like Tang has me believing. Ill definitely be sharing some of that with friends who have little experience with Sativas, let alone cob-cured buds.

Thais lookin great!

Thanks Mr.Mop. They're my little girls and I try to pamper them as best I can. They seem to be rewarding me so far for my dedication. Hehe.

Beautiful!!!
dank.Frank

There is so much more beautiful in the pipeline Frank, and Ill be documenting it with lots of pics of my sexy ladies. Stay tuned!

Amazing work Dave!

Much appreciated onefinity. Lots more fun times ahead for us. Ill try to share as much of it here as I can. I do love everyones enthusiasm for these plants. It helps keep me motivated to maintain my garden, and work towards my goals I have for these plants.

Are you using dried husks? I thought the moisture and sugars in fresh husks helped with the cure/fermentation. Should still work either way, good luck!

Ooops. Look like Ive goofed everyone. I was bound to screw up one step. Thanks for the information. Ill make sure to get some fresh husks for TSG that is coming down soon. Can I get fresh husks in a grocery store without buying ears of corn to shuck myself?

Hi Dave love your pics the THai is amazing you have controlled her so well.
As t99 said above you have got to use green husks, it does help in the sweat, but if the buds are still moist enough it will help to start sweating.
I would leave them in the vac bag for 3 weeks as the husks were dry. You can open after 2 weeks to check and then reseal for another week.
The buds look very dense so they will take a bit longer. If all goes well when you open the cob after 3 weeks it should be very moist and smell almost sickly sweet.
If you get this happen then you are on the money, just let it dry slowly, try not to let it dry fast.
After another week of drying you can store it in a jar or wrapped in a plastic bag it will keep forever. The longer you store it the better it gets but peeks at about 9 to 12 months old. They dont usualy last longer than that as they get consumed, but I have some going on 4 years old in my cellar and they still get me messed up ha ha
The high will be very different to the dry cured buds, you will think its a different plant altogether if the cure is good.
Respect my friend you may have found a new way to enjoy the fruits of your labor.
Tangwena

Thanks for the quick reply. I had planned on opening around Day 5 since its a smaller cob, but knowing now that dry husks aren't Ideal Ill go with your recommended time frame.

Dont be fooled by the look of the buds. They're more like a 6.5/7 on a 10 point scale with regards to density. Not airy, but a little fluffy for the longer flowering ladies.

When you air-dry your cobs post vacuum sealing, do you leave them exposed completely or is the husk still on it loosely? The RH in my hanging closet is usually in mid 60's. That helps me have 10-14 day dry times for my plants. Sound bout right for drying a cob too?

I can't wait to experience a cob-cured bud, as long as I get it right. I bet the HazeSkunk Ill take down in a month will really be something special cobbed.

Fun times ahead!

 

[Dave Coulier]

Random Misc. Update

Random Misc. Update

Hey Gang, I wanted to drop in and give a small update on what is going on in the garden.

1.) Im sitting here enjoying some nicely jar-cured durban poison(1.5 months) and drooling all over myself after each hit. Seriously, I know its good If Immediately drool all over myself after a hit, and let me just say I made a pile of drool you could slip in after I ground up some Durban and took a small hit. Couldn't even hold the hit it in my lungs for more than 5 seconds before I had to exhale and drool all over myself. Hehe. Ive got a day off work to look forward to, and 3 jars of durban bud tips to sample. Yes tips. Ive smoked the rest of each lady, or shared with friends, but I saved enough for a smoke test/report. Ill definitely get the very first smoke report up tomorrow night for sure.

2.) Ive moved TSG(Seedplant) into the harvest closet for a 24 hour period of darkness, then its the chop. She has begun to reveg on me, which I did not expect to occur so quickly with these long-flowering sativas. Its not even been 25 days since I moved her into the veg tent. Hell, Ive got a nice chunky shit mom who refuses to reveg even the slightest more than two months past harvest date.

It'll be Day 175 when she comes down. I started to see a little bit of yellowing on some of her foxtails, so chopping her earlier would have been better. The clone of her looks like she will be ready within 150 Days maybe sooner. Looking at photos of the seedplant vs clone at day 90(Seedplant) & 93(Clone) the clone looks to be at least 2 weeks ahead in development.

TSG(Seedplant) @ 95 Days into flower:

Day 90

TSG(Clone) @ Day 93

The clone more resembles TSG(Seedplant) @ Day 120 as shown below. The clone is 4 weeks ahead of the seedplant by visual comparison at this point, and the next month is going to be the most heavy stacking point of flowering. I can't wait to do another comparison update a month later. I might be harvesting in a month...That'd be really nice.

Even with fertility levels low(soil solution PPM:550) and the plant experiencing an ongoing N deficiency, she is still doing gang-busters compared to the seedplant. I can already see there is so much more room for improvement on the next run. Im only scratching the surface of what these ladies can really do when properly fed and cared for.

Im too high for this update to continue any further..Signing off.

 

[Tangwena]

I hope I find something that takes me on a wild ride out of the remaining ladies. The trippiest weed for me so far has been Sam's HazeSkunk, and considering there is some Thai in there, I should be on the right path.

It should be fun comparing the difference in effects between jar-curing and cob-curing. I hope the cob-cured buds really rock me in a whole new way like Tang has me believing. Ill definitely be sharing some of that with friends who have little experience with Sativas, let alone cob-cured buds.



Thanks Mr.Mop. They're my little girls and I try to pamper them as best I can. They seem to be rewarding me so far for my dedication. Hehe.



There is so much more beautiful in the pipeline Frank, and Ill be documenting it with lots of pics of my sexy ladies. Stay tuned!



Much appreciated onefinity. Lots more fun times ahead for us. Ill try to share as much of it here as I can. I do love everyones enthusiasm for these plants. It helps keep me motivated to maintain my garden, and work towards my goals I have for these plants.



Ooops. Look like Ive goofed everyone. I was bound to screw up one step. Thanks for the information. Ill make sure to get some fresh husks for TSG that is coming down soon. Can I get fresh husks in a grocery store without buying ears of corn to shuck myself?




Thanks for the quick reply. I had planned on opening around Day 5 since its a smaller cob, but knowing now that dry husks aren't Ideal Ill go with your recommended time frame.

Dont be fooled by the look of the buds. They're more like a 6.5/7 on a 10 point scale with regards to density. Not airy, but a little fluffy for the longer flowering ladies.

When you air-dry your cobs post vacuum sealing, do you leave them exposed completely or is the husk still on it loosely? The RH in my hanging closet is usually in mid 60's. That helps me have 10-14 day dry times for my plants. Sound bout right for drying a cob too?

I can't wait to experience a cob-cured bud, as long as I get it right. I bet the HazeSkunk Ill take down in a month will really be something special cobbed.

Fun times ahead!

Dave I leave the maze leaf on all the time, I dont remove it just open the end of the cob slice a bit off and recover with the maze husk. Drying is like drying your bud nice and slow and seal it up in a plastic bag or jar once you have the consistancy right.
60% RH is great for a slow dry.
There is no reason with a little care and attention why those Thai buds will not show you something special once cured.
The basics are easy but getting chapter five standard is down to a little skill on your part.
I find people who grow and cure their own bud get a feel for it really fast.
I will show some cob making when my current grow is ready in a week or two. Some buds do better really compacted some a little looser, I have buds of styles suited to both methods this time around.
By your 3rd or 4th attempt you will have it down pat and never look back.
Tangwena

 

[Dave Coulier]

Dave I leave the maze leaf on all the time, I dont remove it just open the end of the cob slice a bit off and recover with the maze husk. Drying is like drying your bud nice and slow and seal it up in a plastic bag or jar once you have the consistancy right.
60% RH is great for a slow dry.
There is no reason with a little care and attention why those Thai buds will not show you something special once cured.
The basics are easy but getting chapter five standard is down to a little skill on your part.
I find people who grow and cure their own bud get a feel for it really fast.
I will show some cob making when my current grow is ready in a week or two. Some buds do better really compacted some a little looser, I have buds of styles suited to both methods this time around.
By your 3rd or 4th attempt you will have it down pat and never look back.
Tangwena

Thanks for the extra tips on cobbing and storage. What you say about it being so much better than traditional curing isn't a lie. I pulled out my little Durban Poison Stick I made using your cob method after two weeks and began giving it many sampling tests with a friend, whom is a long-time heavy toker with a high tolerance like mine.

It wasn't sickly sweet smelling or very moist to the touch after two weeks. The dry husks no doubt contributed heavily to that, but I also didn't do any sweating before vac'ing them. How long do you typically sweat your buds in the fresh husk before sealing?

Nonetheless, it was still a great treat even when not done properly. I can only imagine how much better the cobs will become as I improve my technique. The finished Durban Stick was about the thickness of Dubble Bubble chewing gum stick, and has a sweet, mild-grape like scent, while my friend says it smells sweet and fruity. Everyone's nose will interpret it differently, but it smells divine no matter what you may think it smells like.

I should never have shared any with him, because now its all he wants...LOL. Its okay because I like to share my work with close friends. This stuff will seriously spoil anyone who gets to sample it and will not want to return to the old ways. Im really looking forward to how good it'll be after I get a thick dense cob that ages a bit..

Oh yeah, I just jarred up a bunch of TS-G, as well as some Durban Poison. Im thinking a nice center of durban surrounded by Thai Stick has to be a pretty good second attempt? Im gonna get on that right now. Pics later of my second attempt

 

[Tangwena]

Hi dave I did the pop corn buds from my grow yesterday dried the normal way slowly, to just about smokeable ready to start jar curing stage.
I bound them up in fresh maze husks and left them in a dry warm place 24hrs, then vac sealed them.
They will be ready in 2 weeks, then keeping them in the maze husks I will air dry them slowly over a week and they will be ready for long term storage in a jar or sealed bag.
Yes I dont know what it does but without fail any serious smoker appreciates the difference and never wants anything else.
A bit of experimenting with the stages at which your bind them up and the length of bagging and ageing will see you hit the jackpot eventualy and then you will truly be converted.
We in the west have a lot to learn about curing the bud from people who have been doing it for thousands of years. We crudely dry our green buds and store them in jars, this IMO only takes them so far, sweating in a cob or similar produces the smooth smoking, smooth tasting aged bud that is the real goal and then you experience the full potential of the bud.
This is only my opinion but I know what I like and the changes that happen when sweated are there for anyone to see.
I wish you all the best with your next lot, starting with good bud is the first priority and your Thai will be just the thing to try it on, it will change the high for the best.
Tangwena

 

[Dave Coulier]

Hi dave I did the pop corn buds from my grow yesterday dried the normal way slowly, to just about smokeable ready to start jar curing stage.
I bound them up in fresh maze husks and left them in a dry warm place 24hrs, then vac sealed them.
They will be ready in 2 weeks, then keeping them in the maze husks I will air dry them slowly over a week and they will be ready for long term storage in a jar or sealed bag.
Yes I dont know what it does but without fail any serious smoker appreciates the difference and never wants anything else.
A bit of experimenting with the stages at which your bind them up and the length of bagging and ageing will see you hit the jackpot eventualy and then you will truly be converted.
We in the west have a lot to learn about curing the bud from people who have been doing it for thousands of years. We crudely dry our green buds and store them in jars, this IMO only takes them so far, sweating in a cob or similar produces the smooth smoking, smooth tasting aged bud that is the real goal and then you experience the full potential of the bud.
This is only my opinion but I know what I like and the changes that happen when sweated are there for anyone to see.
I wish you all the best with your next lot, starting with good bud is the first priority and your Thai will be just the thing to try it on, it will change the high for the best.
Tangwena

Ive done two more cobs over the last couple of days. Using 2 oz for each one. 3/4ths Thai, and a 1/4th of Durban Poison. The first cob I made has a core of Durban Poison surrounded by Thai. The second cob is a core of Thai surrounded by Durban. I should have used more Durban and less Thai on the second one. I wasn't able to completely cover the Thai with Durban. Im sure it'll still be good.

I made sure to sweat both cobs for 24 hours like you said, and then straight into the vac bags for 2 weeks. Ill open at a week, inspect, and rewrap the cobs tighter. After another week, it'll be time to open and let dry w/ cob on per your directions. Ive got a few pics Ill throw up later of my latest cob attempt.

Right now Im working on a smoke report for Durban Poison D, F, & M. Sorry for the delay on that part. Im sure its alot of readers favorite part, but its the hardest thing for me to get around to doing.

 

[xmobotx]

it's hard for me to write a good smoke report. even when I really like a sample it still seems lackluster. maybe i need to exaggerate better?

 

[Dave Coulier]

it's hard for me to write a good smoke report. even when I really like a sample it still seems lackluster. maybe i need to exaggerate better?

Im glad to know im not the only person out there. If I were a seed breeder looking to sell seeds, Id be all for exaggerations , but Im just a hobbyist hoping to someday reintroduce these genetics to those who desire them.

I could probably say the Durban Poison is garbage, and people would still crave it just for the amazing hues of color they produce. They're far from garbage though.

 

[Dave Coulier]

I just love it when tor crashes after I spend 30 minutes working on a smoke report!

 

[ReikoX]

I could probably say the Durban Poison is garbage, and people would still crave it just for the amazing hues of color they produce. They're far from garbage though.

That would be me.

 

[xmobotx]

I just love it when tor crashes after I spend 30 minutes working on a smoke report!

especially considering our particular challenge. probably the best smoke report you ever wrote too?

a friend i used to play music w/ had some funny shit he'd say like "this is some nursing home stuff here" typically colored w/ stories about his friend getting lost on the way home after smoking. Then, one day, on my way home, I realized I was sitting at a stop sign w/ no one coming for idk how long ~not sure what way to go.

 

[Dave Coulier]

That would be me.

Im sure you're not alone ReikoX. Probably quite a few of you, and If I were on the other end of this thread, Id still want them too!

especially considering our particular challenge. probably the best smoke report you ever wrote too?

a friend i used to play music w/ had some funny shit he'd say like "this is some nursing home stuff here" typically colored w/ stories about his friend getting lost on the way home after smoking. Then, one day, on my way home, I realized I was sitting at a stop sign w/ no one coming for idk how long ~not sure what way to go.

Hardly the best smoke report. I hadn't even gotten into the nitty gritty part of the smoke report yet. Ill work on it some tonight, and probably some tomorrow. A little bit at a time, and Ill get it done. This time though, I am backing up my smoke report in a text file in case tor crashes before Im done.

I like your friends description alot. It reminds me of some of the effects Id feel under Sam's HazeSkunk. Id go out on some errands after smoking some, and once on the roads my mind would forget where I was going or why I was even on the road to begin with. Yet somehow, Id always make it to my destination and once there, everything would come flooding back to why I was even on the road.

Everyone should grow out that freebie from the Boo if they want trippy weed. Its a must grow, imho.

Im gonna dive into working on that smoke report now for a while.