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[Gypsy Nirvana]

I don't know why straight questions get me complex answers (or are they?) - written in some old scripture that makes no sense to me -

How about answering a question without cut and pasting?

 

[weedobix]

'God's Chosen People' - says it all really - SUPREMACISM - As if they are saying that all the rest of us are trash and consigned to the fires of hell because we were not 'Chosen by God' -

They are only the chosen bloodline to bring Christ into the world, after that the gentiles are grafted in and anyone who becomes Christian is god's people.

 

[CaptainDankness]

Maybe they studied the Bible and it came across that Jesus actually loved all the little children.

Hey that's a low blow, I was forced to go to Sunday school and we had a Catholic priest. Needless to say, it was bad....

 

[gladysvjubb]

Well according to a VERY well known source. Jesus was one of three introduced to the human population to do good. They killed all three. Some of these Aliens are terrified of the human population. We are hostile. I am afraid all you Bible toting people out there had better look back further than 2000 years ago. You are too short sighted and are living a lie.

 

[CaptainDankness]

Well according to a VERY well known source. Jesus was one of three introduced to the human population to do good. They killed all three. Some of these Aliens are terrified of the human population. We are hostile. I am afraid all you Bible toting people out there had better look back further than 2000 years ago. You are too short sighted and are living a lie.

Right, I kind of have more faith in Aliens. Chariots Of The God's I believe it was, now that did make a little sense. Something comes from the sky we're going to think it's a God except for these days we know they are UFO's.

Really my favorite thing about Trump he wants a Space Force. Star Wars is going to be a reality, hopefully not though, I'm sure Aliens have better weapons than nukes. Although we just need to get mosquitoes infected with malaria on their ship and they won't have a chance.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Ah - so 'God's Chosen People' becomes - 'Gods Chosen Bloodline' - it all seems overly class specific - as if to say that, if you are not of the 'Chosen Bloodline ' then you are just goy/kuffar - and you will not be accepted as an equal in these indoctrinated fundamentalist societies since you are considered to be an unbeliever or heretic of some sort.


- and how do you 'graft in gentiles?' - can you be more specific?

They are only the chosen bloodline to bring Christ into the world, after that the gentiles are grafted in and anyone who becomes Christian is god's people.

 

[VenturaHwy]

I will add that Ruth was a Moabite, a cursed people. Yet she became the grandmother of David the king. And to David was the Messiah promised to be his descendent.

Deuteronomy 23:3 “An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter the assembly of the Lord; even to the tenth generation none of his descendants shall enter the assembly of the Lord forever,

 

[buzzmobile]

God has no love for Ammonites and Moabites, but he supplied a loophole to Baby Ruth?

Now it's beginning to make sense.

 

[pipeline]

I don't know why straight questions get me complex answers (or are they?) - written in some old scripture that makes no sense to me -

How about answering a question without cut and pasting?

The bible is easier to understand with an open mind. You really have to read between the lines. This is why Jesus spoke in parables. Only those who really want to find the truth about God's creation can understand. It was getting late yesterday. I will come back and see if I can explain a bit soon. Its eye opening! God's purposes, God's plan, God's mind; its not about what we want or will, its about trusting God's will is good. God's creation is finely tuned and perfect, including the difficult ugly parts.


Stay tuned Gypsy! Open your heart to the saving knowledge of God through the Word of God. John can be pretty wordy, but the bible is really where its all explained best. Its our faith. Its what we believe. God is with us!



Have a good weekend!



Luke 8:9-18 NKJV

The Purpose of Parables

9 Then His disciples asked Him, saying, “What does this parable mean?”
10 And He said, “To you it has been given to know the [f]mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is given in parables, that
‘Seeing they may not see,
And hearing they may not understand.’

The Parable of the Sower Explained

11 “Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. 12 Those by the wayside are the ones who hear; then the devil comes and takes away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved. 13 But the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, who believe for a while and in time of [g]temptation fall away. 14 Now the ones that fell among thorns are those who, when they have heard, go out and are choked with cares, riches, and pleasures of life, and bring no fruit to maturity. 15 But the ones that fell on the good ground are those who, having heard the word with a noble and good heart, keep it and bear fruit with patience.[h]
The Parable of the Revealed Light

16 “No one, when he has lit a lamp, covers it with a vessel or puts it under a bed, but sets it on a lampstand, that those who enter may see the light. 17 For nothing is secret that will not be revealed, nor anything hidden that will not be known and come to light. 18 Therefore take heed how you hear. For whoever has, to him more will be given; and whoever does not have, even what he [i]seems to have will be taken from him.”

 

[beta]

You really have to read between the lines. This is why Jesus spoke in parables. Only those who really want to find the truth about God's creation can understand.

That's really the beauty of religion, idn't? Because it isn't based on anything objective, it can say whatever you want it to. What you get out of the Bible is exactly what you already believe.

The Bible is a Rorschach Test for the morally challenged.

 

[White Beard]

They are only the chosen bloodline to bring Christ into the world, after that the gentiles are grafted in and anyone who becomes Christian is god's people.

Congratulations: you have pinpointed the place where Christianity meets racism. This ‘bloodline’ crap is the very root of racism, exclusion, and class structure...you’ve also put your finger on the “source” for the notion that US honkey evangelicals have ‘replaced’ the Jews as “God’s chosen people” *despite* a complete absence of biblical justification.

Must be time for more twisted tales from the magic book!

 

[Microbeman]

There are two battles talked about, as you mentioned.



Based on the timeline of the bible: gog and magog describes the nations who initially attack christ at his return on the mount of olives before the 1,000 year reign, and also the people whom satan deceives into trying to attack again at the time after the 1,000 year reign.

#1 below


My question for you is, what does the bible say is happening during the 1,000 year reign? Obviously the ones who were chosen for the first resurrection will be in their spiritual bodies, but who are these people who satan is released to deceive?

#2 below

Once you answer this question and see there is another great multitude during this time who is born and raised, then you could possibly see that there would be a greater battle at the end of the 1,000 year reign that we are not told much about except the excerpt you gave before about magog and gog.

#3 below

We are given a number of 200 million who attack jerusalem at the time of jesus' return to the mount of olives - meaning a vast majority of people have died because we have about 7 billion (??) alive today. However, it obviously states that the 6th trump is when the euphrates is dried up for the battle of armageddon - meaning it is before the 7th trump or any time of peace on earth comes.

#4 below

#1
To begin with my discussion was of John's perception as stated in his book, Revelation only. The battle of Gog and Magog definitely follows the 1000 years of peace as verified here;

Revelation 20
"7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea."


I only mentioned Ezekial to correlate the meaning of Gog and Magog related to the debate ongoing with theological scholars about whether Gog and Magog represents all the nations of the world or if it is restricted to the specific nations outlined in Ezekial.

One could, I suppose hypothesize 3 or even more great battles looking at Revelation 16 and (as you noted) the drying of the Euphrates.

#2
Again, my interest and discussion was limited in scope to Revelation. I do not view the bible as a book within itself but as an anthology of books.

One can only speculate but it seems apparent that John is speaking of people in physical form, raised from the dead, being only the cream of the cream of Christians who suffered death and torture in the defense of their belief in God.

They supposedly reign with Christ over the nations of the world, I assume much as we see today.

What is supposed to happen with people born during this period in terms of becoming Christians or Buddhists or Muslims is a mystery.

#3
This is why I agree with scholars who hypothesize that in Revelation the battle of Gog and Magog is in fact Armeggedon, at least in the terms perceived by Christians as the final apocalypse and the end times.

Following the battle of Gog and Magog the earth is gone.

Revelation 21
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.


My original point was, according to John, that ordinary born again Christians will not be risen suddenly as in a rapture as they seem to believe and identify with current signs of 'end times'. Contrary to this, they will wait an extra 1000 years to rise from the dead. During the 1000 years, there will peace on 'earth'. Thus when peace breaks out on earth there will be 1000 years to wait for the dead 'born agains'.

#4
Really, your speculation is as good as mine. Correct me if I am incorrect but there is no named 'mount of olives' in Revelation.

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Bear in mind that I do not believe that these statements are accurate but history reveals that Christians so much believe these things that they push to fulfill these prophesies and they use these statements to excuse their irresponsible destruction of nature.

 

[weedobix]

Congratulations: you have pinpointed the place where Christianity meets racism. This ‘bloodline’ crap is the very root of racism, exclusion, and class structure...you’ve also put your finger on the “source” for the notion that US honkey evangelicals have ‘replaced’ the Jews as “God’s chosen people” *despite* a complete absence of biblical justification.

Must be time for more twisted tales from the magic book!

Lol that's basically what Jesus says in the bible, the Jews are arguing and claim the bloodline of Abraham and Jesus says to them it doesn't matter about DNA, if you don't want to do things right god will use others.

 

[pipeline]

Since Jesus died and was risen, all Jews and Christians are of the "seed" of Abraham. Genetic heritage doesn't matter, its now a heritage of the Holy Spirit of truth that comes from God and His perfect creation.

 

[pipeline]

#1
To begin with my discussion was of John's perception as stated in his book, Revelation only. The battle of Gog and Magog definitely follows the 1000 years of peace as verified here;

Revelation 20
"7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea."


I only mentioned Ezekial to correlate the meaning of Gog and Magog related to the debate ongoing with theological scholars about whether Gog and Magog represents all the nations of the world or if it is restricted to the specific nations outlined in Ezekial.

One could, I suppose hypothesize 3 or even more great battles looking at Revelation 16 and (as you noted) the drying of the Euphrates.

#2
Again, my interest and discussion was limited in scope to Revelation. I do not view the bible as a book within itself but as an anthology of books.

One can only speculate but it seems apparent that John is speaking of people in physical form, raised from the dead, being only the cream of the cream of Christians who suffered death and torture in the defense of their belief in God.

They supposedly reign with Christ over the nations of the world, I assume much as we see today.

What is supposed to happen with people born during this period in terms of becoming Christians or Buddhists or Muslims is a mystery.

#3
This is why I agree with scholars who hypothesize that in Revelation the battle of Gog and Magog is in fact Armeggedon, at least in the terms perceived by Christians as the final apocalypse and the end times.

Following the battle of Gog and Magog the earth is gone.

Revelation 21
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.


My original point was, according to John, that ordinary born again Christians will not be risen suddenly as in a rapture as they seem to believe and identify with current signs of 'end times'. Contrary to this, they will wait an extra 1000 years to rise from the dead. During the 1000 years, there will peace on 'earth'. Thus when peace breaks out on earth there will be 1000 years to wait for the dead 'born agains'.

#4
Really, your speculation is as good as mine. Correct me if I am incorrect but there is no named 'mount of olives' in Revelation.

********************
Bear in mind that I do not believe that these statements are accurate but history reveals that Christians so much believe these things that they push to fulfill these prophesies and they use these statements to excuse their irresponsible destruction of nature.

Thanks for the discussion guys! There are always people who believe what they want about the bible. There is only 1 truth. God understands!



Sure looks like end times may be around the corner. Praying for our leaders and for peace!

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Thanks for the discussion guys! There are always people who believe what they want about the bible. There is only 1 truth. God understands!



Sure looks like end times may be around the corner. Praying for our leaders and for peace!

"You'll never see me coming"
-- The Mandarin (and God)

Ok... now how many of you just did the voice. Lol

 

[Medfinder]

Jesus christ is the only way to the father jehovah

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Jesus christ is the only way to the father jehovah

So the kid living in the wilds of an African jungle untouched by humans is going to burn because of his misfortune? Fuck you all you evil satanists.

 

[NEW ENGLAND]

So the kid living in the wilds of an African jungle untouched by humans is going to burn because of his misfortune? Fuck you all you evil satanists.

hahaha There ya go,we must go to the same therapist!

He tells me not to keep my feelings bottled up,express yourself.....I love it,he's worth every penny

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Lol