Old Uncle Ben
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Continue talking in circles not making a bit of sense. You come off as just another cannabis forum poser talking shit.
For the 3rd time, where are your pix? Put up or shut up.
Uncle Ben
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Continue talking in circles not making a bit of sense. You come off as just another cannabis forum poser talking shit.
For the 3rd time, where are your pix? Put up or shut up.
Uncle Ben
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The only place I spoke about urea, was in your head. It never happened. Yet you are asking if I can read, and showing me your bottle. Saying is has no urea, it has ammonium. Ammonium being what I said was in it. I have told you this, fed it to you on a spoon. Yet still you can't grasp which one of us it is, talking nonsense.
Poser must have a different meaning over there. Here, I would be a poser if I was getting my pics out. Which would have no relevancy here. Being a good grower is not about showing 20yo pics and saying modern methods are just over complicating things. A good grower embraces new material such as the paper I offered you again.
I can't repeat a conversation we had a few pages ago. It's obvious you won't look up anything, because you think you know best. It's no wonder you are banned from so many forums, and people can't believe what's happened to you. 20 years back your grows were good for the time, and you were a big buy on OG. You just plateaued though. Growing tech has moved on a lot, but you like your old house shoes. That's fine, but don't belittle modern methods, just because you are unwilling to keep up.
The best bud pic in the world would change nothing. Our personal abilities, have no bearing on if the science is worth chasing. Millions of dollars being spent on this says more.
Perhaps you could tell nasa about your DG feed. They seem to be wasting billions without it.
Old Uncle Ben
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Still talking shit. No pix, OK.
Moving on to some gardening pointers and tips.......
Back on the farm we be enjoying some good ol Afghanistan indica, like Cannacopia Lapis Mtn. indica on this one this year. 2- 3 hit wonder, creeper weed, VERY skunky, rich terpene profile, laugh a minute stuff. I gave my friend a sandwich baggie full and as he's walking away from my car you could still smell it 30' away!
Liked it so much I did a re-veg on this one. Garden of 9 was fed with Osmocote.
Re-veg - this is a very small plant. Got a couple of ounces off her.
Nuggets, low tier and inside the super dense canopy.
Some Hazeman Monkey Balls (Deep Chunk backcross). May 21, 2023 harvest, 7 weeks.
As an aside, boron (in VERY small amounts) supports good flowering, bud, and fruit production. Been using this popular one for years mainly as a soil additive for cannabis, grape set, tropical fruit set - mango, avocado, citrus.
My point being is you don't have to get caught up in all the forum fertilizer confusion, hype and cost.
Maybe it will get thru to some one who can shit can forum protocal long enough to embrace common gardening practices like you would when growing a mater, and learn something.
1 shallow handful scratched into the top cm. of soil and water is all you need from start to finish. No bloom foods or other feel good macros caca.
Make it easy peasy,
Uncle Ben
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Old Uncle Ben
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Are you saying it's all calyx and little leaf production? If so, what strain?
Green is good. Folks need to know what chlorophyll is and it's function. There is a light saturation point where "less is more".
One absurd forum protocol is the push/hype of giving a flowering plant all the light you can. Well, folks just blast the chlorophyll and ruin the leaves. Do folks realize this practice is exactly contrary to what happens in its natural environment, especially for northern latitudes of 30* plus? Days are shorter and light levels are much less compared to mid June in Northern latitudes.
Why do folks insist on following the calyx/leaf forum hype? That's seedbank marketing that's parroted by forum noobs mainly. It's leaves that drive bud production, period. Yes, we could get into phenotypes and such, but I digress.....
Hazeman's Monkey Balls this April about 5 weeks into flowering. The leaves are super abundant, green, and producing plenty of carbos for bud production. I pluck some that turn yellow late in the game but for the most part the plant was still green at harvest, meaning, the leaves are producing food for bud production.
Having said that you may have noticed I emphasize root production and health in some of my posts. Based on plenty of research and trial and error I have mastered root production for not only cannabis but all plant material. Started over 20 years ago.
Take this pure sativa, Zamal. Check out the root mass in 2021. 4 main branches. This was my drill too of "topping to get 4 main colas"
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Hiddenjems
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Theres no hype involved when I’m trimming lbs of flower. Less leaf, more swollen calx=easier trimming, better bag appeal, better taste. The flowering tops look like bunches of grapes, not leaves.
I can grow the same cut and keep it green the whole time. If I do yield goes down about 50% and the quality is trash.
It’s a 20+ year old Indica cut that doesn’t stretch much and finishes before 7 weeks.
I’ve never grown a plant to completion anywhere but indoors with hydro nutes. First in promix, then expanded clay only. No nutrients from anything but what I add. Totally different than soil. The plants grow different roots even.
I can grow the same cut and keep it green the whole time. If I do yield goes down about 50% and the quality is trash.
It’s a 20+ year old Indica cut that doesn’t stretch much and finishes before 7 weeks.
I’ve never grown a plant to completion anywhere but indoors with hydro nutes. First in promix, then expanded clay only. No nutrients from anything but what I add. Totally different than soil. The plants grow different roots even.
Old Uncle Ben
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Another good medium for water culture is small lava rock. Used to buy it in bulk from roofing companies, cheap.
Trimming is just part of the fun! Got to admit though, trimming indicas is a PITA.
Trimming is just part of the fun! Got to admit though, trimming indicas is a PITA.
Hiddenjems
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I’ve popped hundreds of seeds and tried out many cuts. I have 3 keepers. All finish in 8 weeks or less, have very little leaf in the bud, lots of smell, and pack a strong indica high. It’s hard to find all these traits together, but they’re out there.
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I have a friend who's the same. He knows everything that happened up to about 10 years ago, but can't take in anything new. It's there for a moment, then gone. It's a form of epilepsy that treatment is helping with, but not as much as we would like.
Can you remember what you ate yesterday? I'm seeing genuine signs that you can't remember what's going on.
If a mod could remove all this, I would be grateful. My whole purpose here was to stop derailment, but it's just caused more. UB really won't remember anyway.
Old Uncle Ben
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I just grew out old indica stock, a few were Deep Chunk, all turned out male. Another was Cannacopia Lapis Mtn. indica. No couch lock, smooth high.
Kwik Seeds is a good source, got the Deep Chunk from them. They have fine IBL's, good descriptions. https://kwikseeds.com/product-category/indica-type/
Being a sativa grower most of my growing cannabis life, I'm really liking this Afghan/Kush/Pakistan stuff. Also grew out stuff like Sensi Hindu Kush. It too turned out male.
Good luck,
UB
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Hiddenjems
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The pure afghans have a much better high than most indica crosses I’ve come across.
CharlesU Farley
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I must have missed the memo in the first post where it said this thread was _only_ about hydro issues. Thanks for letting me know what was appropriate and not appropriate in this thread.
And I don't think UB is shitting on this thread, just providing an alternate and more experienced viewpoint.
The only fertilizer this plant received was Peters 20-20-20 and it's a reverse engineered Northern Lights I obtained from Sensi Seed via Gypsy Nirvana in 1999. Guess I'm just not keeping up with the current trends here in the 21st century:
Oh wait, I'm growing in cheap ass Miracle-Gro potting soil (well documented on my website for over 5 years), so I guess I shouldn't be in this discussion.
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Old Uncle Ben
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Great points. Guess us old timers just aren't cool enough for the younger elitists.
Being the vet you are you're welcome to help this young chap who reached out to me in a private message.
Master Kush bag seed from dispensery.
Thanks, I was really hoping to have you on to watch this grow but she turned out to be a he. Chopped him up this morning. I'll let you know when I have another plant growing with mainly Foliage Pro... Your plant looks about as healthy as a plant can get, nice. I'll have to read up on Osmocote...
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Some of my indicas had that weird off color tint whether temps were cool/cold or warm. Kinda caught me off guard. Nice job!
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Ca++
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If people want to grow plants like yours, then this is the wrong thread for them. You have your own KISS thread for this. Where they can attain results like yours.
How many pages of needless off topic posting is this now. At 11 months since his last post, the OP could be dead for all we know. Where is the decency. Who is actually older out of you and I.
I'm not answering again. You have nothing to offer.
How many pages of needless off topic posting is this now. At 11 months since his last post, the OP could be dead for all we know. Where is the decency. Who is actually older out of you and I.
I'm not answering again. You have nothing to offer.
Jacks 321 feeding schedule states 2.4ec for veg. This seems high to me? I am halfway back through the thread and not much talk about overall feeding strength. I thought I read somewhere one of the guys saying whenever he wasnt feeding full strength that problems eventually developed?
I just found a post by bill stating 3/2 for veg and 3.6/2.4 for bloom and add magnesium sulfate only if you see deficiency. Its starting to look like Mg there are yellow between veins but most notably a couple tips have brown between veins now. Not seeing brown tips. I imagine I am low on base nutes at the very least.
Is there any Mg in the Part A? Also guessing I need to nix the cannazyme with its MPK, been a week now and its done its job with the hydroton.
I was a bit over on the Mr. Fulvic too at between .5 and 1ml/gal. Bill was recommending .5ml/gal every feed. 1ml/gal drench or foliar biostimulant.
All the off topic BS was reported cut it out.
I just found a post by bill stating 3/2 for veg and 3.6/2.4 for bloom and add magnesium sulfate only if you see deficiency. Its starting to look like Mg there are yellow between veins but most notably a couple tips have brown between veins now. Not seeing brown tips. I imagine I am low on base nutes at the very least.
Is there any Mg in the Part A? Also guessing I need to nix the cannazyme with its MPK, been a week now and its done its job with the hydroton.
I was a bit over on the Mr. Fulvic too at between .5 and 1ml/gal. Bill was recommending .5ml/gal every feed. 1ml/gal drench or foliar biostimulant.
All the off topic BS was reported cut it out.
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Ca++
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Jacks is a touch over EC2 (2.05iirc) but you can expect 2.4 in tap.
The 321 isn't metric, and I have had too many.. but the Mg doesn't seem high?
Look up the tank mixing specs of mpk, if you intend to mix it with other things. It's very fussy, to the point where I can't use it.
sublingual
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Growing sativas, The recommendation from the supplier is to feed 1.3. I usually stay between 1.1-1.4 depending on several factors such as heat and humidity.
KootMed has a chart that I use (although I don't agree with everything). The beauty of Jack's is that it is so variable. Blossom Booster can be spiked with Cal. Nit. during the last two weeks of veg. The same with Clone and Finish. Whatever combination is used just keep the EC in that said range (at least for most sativas).
There is Mag Sulphate in "A," you may add more before you add Cal. Nit. just keep it in the EC range. Epsom salts will make you plants stinkier all else the same.
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Max dosage of Ohaze lines is 1.2ec.
I am running a mix of modern day hybrids Sour D, SFV, an Indica and another hybrid. I am going to flush and refill using only jacks an mr fulvic at .5ml. I'll report back. I seem to always have issues in veg non dependent of nutes. I think its one of 3 things, too much light, plants arent ready for 1.2 or they need more. Last time this happend I was feeding too low an ec. Maybe its that but going to flush first and I already turned the hps down to 50% incase.
I am running a mix of modern day hybrids Sour D, SFV, an Indica and another hybrid. I am going to flush and refill using only jacks an mr fulvic at .5ml. I'll report back. I seem to always have issues in veg non dependent of nutes. I think its one of 3 things, too much light, plants arent ready for 1.2 or they need more. Last time this happend I was feeding too low an ec. Maybe its that but going to flush first and I already turned the hps down to 50% incase.
