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Can I Help U Free Yourself from Tobacco?

Harry Gypsna

Dirty hippy Bastard
Veteran
it will be 1 week tomorrow since i quit, not bothering me like last time, although, women, man, arrrrgh, she might cause me 2 have a dodgy day, teetering on the brink of wanting a cig, nah, fook that, not gonna give her the satiosfaction of knowin she means that much, sorry, <<<<<<<<<<<<<embittered loser in love
 

BushyOldGrower

Bubblegum Specialist
Veteran
When we quit

When we quit

The irritability is a withdrawl symptom and when you get really ticked off by something you may break down and go get a cigarette. Beware of this pitfall because we can allow our minds to create the tantrum so we can blame someone else for making us smoke. We rationalize anything somehow.

Remember that you are the one quitting for yourself. Freeda found it easier to quit for someone else because she is a very unselfish person but she is unusual. Whatever motivates you to quit is good but remember that only you can decide to quit for your own reasons. You cannot make others quit to make it easier on you.

It isn't so hard really though. People often try once and fail then tell the story of how they tried but couldn't stand it. Like a guy who skied once but fell and never went skiing again. Remember that when you fall off a horse you have to get right back on. Winners never quit but quitters can win in this case. :)

Wouldn't you rather smoke this? BOG


Blue Moon Rocks...
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Harry Gypsna

Dirty hippy Bastard
Veteran
oh ye, i would rather smoke that, u gonna mail me it?? lol just watch, i aint letting no1 drag me down
 
G

Guest

i sure would like that bog but im happy with lifesaver ,i'm on 47 th hour without tobbacco.no patches or gum just lots of weed.i aint even thinking about tobbacco just weed:D
ps and 2 terrible stories about smoking
 

sunnyside

Plant Manager
Veteran
FREEDOM!!! I am working on day 6 without nicotine, Starting to come around! Thanks everyone for all the encouragement.
 

Harry Gypsna

Dirty hippy Bastard
Veteran
<<<<<<<<<<<,still hasnt smoked tobacco, i have got 5 patches left, so i must be on day 9, 21 mg niquitin cq clear , they rock, i havent craved a cig, due to needing 1, just had couple of slightly dodgy moments wyhen i have almost smoked, but, i aint given up at givimg up yet, so im happy, every day i dont smoke, is another day closer to those beans, lol, although, they r not the reason to do it at all really, my dad is 53, and i dont wanna get 2 his age, and have to try and stop with 40 yrs of tobacco smoke inside me,
 
I'm not that great, I think anyone can do it

I'm not that great, I think anyone can do it

"Freeda found it easier to quit for someone else because she is a very unselfish person but she is unusual." - BOG

Thanks for the compliment BOG, but I'm not as wonderful as you make me sound.:eek: I just cannot imagine loving someone more than I love my fiancee. Now, I know I probably have a different definition of love than most people,but its because I read this book in one of my first philosophy classes (before I met my fiancee) that offered information that made it possible for me to change my entire outlook on life, love, and responsibility.

In his book, 'The Road Less Traveled', Dr. M. Scott Peck defines love as the following:

"the will to extend one's self for the purpose of nurturing one's own or another's spiritual growth."

Ya see BOG, I fell head over heels for my fiancee, at first I just lusted after him, but eventually I grew to really care for him, I wanted to love him the way Dr. Peck defined love. I believe that loving someone requires action, it requires a willingness to do things that are not easy, and I make every effort that I can to love my fiancee. I never wanted to quit smoking cigarettes, even though I knew it was bad for me, but the truth is I did quit for "selfish" reasons.
Now, I suppose that I define selfishness different than most people too, unless you read Dr. Peck, or a philosopher like Thomas Hobbes. I believe that every action is selfish, and that no human being makes unselfish choices. Ultimately, when an individual makes a decision, they are doing what they WANT to do. Even with a gun to your head, you have the power to decide what to do next, you can do as you are told, or you can fight/flee. Every decision you make is your decision, and your decision alone. We may not always succeed in our attempts, but they are our attempts to make. We all do what we WANT to do, its just that when it came to quitting smoking, I wanted to support my fiancee more than I wanted to smoke. I knew I liked smoking, but I knew that I liked the good feelings that I get from loving my fiancee(extending myself to nurture his spiritual growth). I did quit for a selfish reason - I quit because I wanted to feel good about how I treat the man that I say that I love. Whenever you do something that benefits someone else, you do it because you choose to do it. I chose to do it because the 'warm fuzzy' feeling that I get from loving my fiancee feels better than smoking any cigarette ever did!

So to all Tobacco smokers trying to quit, and to all fellow humans who don't mind reading a self-help book: READ 'The Road Less Traveled' by Dr. M. Scott Peck! I think it could help you get to know yourself a lot better!

Now, for those of you who have read the book (and I'm sure some of you have - it was first published over thirty years ago and has sold millions of copies) I will say that I did not see eye to eye with Dr. Peck on every detail, but the book is still a definite must read! There is a good bit of Christianity espoused within the book - mostly in the section of the book, 'Grace.' I am not a Christian, but I can still find value in the work. I do not believe in the human being/son of God, Jesus Christ, but I do believe in many of what are supposed to be this man/God's teachings. So, like I said before, I don't agree with everything that Dr. Peck said - feel free to slam him or me if you need to - just know that, of what he says in this book, I do believe most of his ideas about accepting responsibility, delaying gratification, dedication to the truth, and love. If you want to debate his ideas on those topics, I'll be glad to take his side! (I love a good debate every now and then).

All that said, thanks again, BOG. You make me sound like Mother Theresa or something, and believe me I am far from perfect or unselfish.

TO Rollinoh, who posted:
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My question is, how can you convince a spouse to quit when they just dont wanna listen?
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The only person who can "convince" your spouse to quit is your spouse. You can provide arguments for her that might inspire her to make her own decision to quit, but you can't make her do it. Just because I chose to quit as a way of loving my fiancee, it does not mean that a loved one's refusal to quit means they don't love you. I would feel horrible if I thought that people were getting that message from my post. My advice to you is to sit down with your wife, tell her how much you love her, and tell her how much it would mean to you if she could find a way to at least attempt to quit smoking with you. Tell her that her support would mean the world to you, and that you think it would really help you acheive a goal that is very important to you if she could just try to quit, or at the least try to quit smoking in your presence. Try to find some form of compromise, instead of trying to make her see things 'your' way. People usually don't respond well when their position is being attacked . . . you know the old adage about attracting more bees with honey, try it out. Your wife just might surprise you. If your wife tends to be swayed more by rationally compelling arguments than by emotion, the you might try printing out this thread, or other anti-tobacco material, and highlighting what you think are the best points. Get her to read them, and ask her to respond. I think you will have the best results in getting your wife to quit if you spend some time trying to see things her way, and then providing arguments for her that might help her to see things differently. Anyway, that's just my opinion.

Wow, I didn't realize how long this post had gotten, its time to go reload the bowl. To all of you trying to fight a tobacco addiction, I send my love and support, and if there's ever anything I can do, I'm only a PM away.

Peace
:abduct:
Freeda Green
 

Ponyboy7000

New member
Hey BOG, nice thread. Me and the Wife made the decision to stop smoking 5 days ago now. Cold turkey, no patches or gum. Im of the opinion that if you can get the nicotene out as fast as possible. By using a patch your keeping some nicotene in your system, therefore keeping yourself in a prolonged state of withdrawl. If you just go cold turkey ALL the nicotene is out of your body in just 72 hours. Thats the hardest part but really I think its all about mindset.

Ive smoked for over 20 yrs, at least 2 packs a day and finally decided to quit. Stupidly the major factor in our decision was financial. We are just so close to being all caught up and comfortable in our lives, and the $400 we spent on cigarettes each month would make all the difference. We decided to quit last Friday after doing the bills, kind of out of the blue and started Saturday morning.

However anyone quits, good for them. The same thing doesnt work for everyone, but If your really sick of smoking just try to go cold turkey for the 3 days and then you got it licked!

Of course Im saying this pretty early into my non smoking life, but Im confident Im never going to smoke another cigarette again.

Also pick up a little quit meter, I got links if anyones interested. You can track how much you saved, in money and life expectancy and such. Heres my latest stats...

I have been quit for 4 Days, 9 hours, 19 minutes and 47 seconds (4 days). I have saved $52.65 by not smoking 263 cigarettes. I have saved 21 hours and 55 minutes of my life. My Quit Date: 7/10/2004


Peace, Pony
 
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I never knew before I tried a vaporizer that you actually exhale a white vapor mist . . . you can actually taste the bud when you exhale . . . not so much on the inhale. Anyway, if anyone has any questions let me know! I'll keep ya posted on how well we do giving up the bong!

Peace,
:abduct:
Freeda Green
 

BushyOldGrower

Bubblegum Specialist
Veteran
Whatever can motivate you to quit!

Whatever can motivate you to quit!

Ponyboy, I wish you and your wife the best of luck and I hope you do accomplish your goal. You are already through the first door and some people have the ability to make a decision and stick to it. I applaud your effort and agree that cleansing the Nicotine out fast is a good way to go for some but for others who miss it too much it can cause a return to the tobacco.

You and your wife will use that 400 a month for something healthy I hope. Saving for retirement is a good thing too. :)

Freeda, you are so smart. I mean it. You see the truths in what Jesus said and you really see your true self. Yes, we are selfish and we do everything for some sort of self serving reason but...

The person who loves and gives may receive the rewards he or she seeks while still giving of self. Being of service to others is what we all do in our lives everyday. Whether you drive a truck or type on a computer for a living our lives have purpose. The purpose is to serve our brothers. We serve ourselves when we do this if we see the truth of our situation.

We are all imperfect humans trying to survive together on this rock in space. The wolf serves himself when he fights the enemies of the pack or when she nurses her young. When our motivation is love for all we serve ourselves and everyone else too. Only by realizing that no person is evil can we see the truth.

Some day there will be time enough for love... BOG :D
 

Kaus

Member
I hate this addition its killing me slowly and everytime i quit I start up again (excuses like stress and such come to mind) honestly Im scared, I'm dieing slowly and cant seem to kick this stupid addiction.

Kaus

- I just came off a month of quitting about 2 weeks ago :/.. my wife doesnt smoke either double :(
 
Decided myself to quit, i made an agreement with the wife that she needs to smoke outside. She wasnt for it until i pointed out that her hair smelled funny to me now, so shes cutting back too i guess.

I was going cold turkey, but my fingernails couldnt handle it. I broke down and bought some chewing tobaco , almost threw up when i swallowed that crap. How could u ever get addicted to chewing tobaco!? This crap is horrid. Anyways 5 days or is it 6 now, Im already smelling things i never smelled before.
 
G

Guest

i gave up nearly 3 weeks ago after hearing that someone died ,the story was told to me by gypsy when i met him ,3 days later i quit i had plenty of weed though
i aint having another cigarette thats all ive kept saying and its working ,i didnt really crave nicotine ,and i was smoking 25 years.
we can all do this we just need help and support ,so hooray to anyone who's quit tobbacco:D
 

Harry Gypsna

Dirty hippy Bastard
Veteran
im still not smoking tobacco, i aint even on the patch now, i ran out, went a day without em, felt fine, so i havent bothered going back for more. Im just hitting the bong, if i feel like i could do wi a smoke, i take a little lick opn my bubbly bong, that does the trick., also, the top genetics at the end r a bonus, but with so many ppl now on this thread, bog will have yto re-think his generous offer, coz otherwise the tobacco companies will have a price on his head, tut, giving more incentive to quit, good going bog, u r a king among men., thanks for persuading me i could do it.:wave:
 

Gypsy Nirvana

Recalcitrant Reprobate -
Administrator
Veteran
.......well done hazyfontazy.....and the rest of you that have managed to get away from the suffocating addiction of tobacco smoking.........if you are going to smoke anything at all....best to save your lungs for the good erb' to be used medicinally or recreationally......

I just smoke enough hits of cannabis to catch a buzz.....usually it only takes 2-3 inhalations of prime bud to get me high enough to feel the effects.....and it usually lasts for about 4 hours......so lets say that I toke about 10 full inhalations a day thats around 2-3 every 4 hours........about a spliffs worth a day.....so really although I am still technically smoking I am not putting anywhere near the ammount of smoke into my lungs that your average or light tobacco smoker might be doing since they seem to want to smoke 10-20 or 30 cigarettes a day........and so the volume of inhaled combusted material is much less if you are an econimical cannabis user.........

....save your lungs for good weed to get high on........don't waste them on smoking something that don't get you high......just makes you sick and die.......(tobacco smoking has killed more people than any war has.......in fact tobacco has killed more people than all of the wars in known history have put together!......now that bears thinking about!...)
 

twistone

Member
After smoking cigs for 40 years, the wife and I plopped down $150 each for hypnosis. Best money we have ever spent in our lives. November 10th will be a year, damn, a whole year without those "coffin nails". Blessed are the powers of subliminal suggestion. I highly recommend this for those who have repeatedly tried to quit and failed, such as myself. Hey, can you imagine two lifelong smokers quitting at the same time, under the same roof, and living to tell about it.:wave: I'm here to testify!!!
The best of luck to all who are trying to purge the nicotine beast.

twistone:cool:
 

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