ICMag with help from Landrace Warden and The Vault is running a NEW contest in November! You can check it here.
Prizes are seeds & forum premium access. Come join in!
i got real good at quitting, too!
i think the worst feeling for me was when i would relapse/breakdown/cheat/whatever you want to call it...it was the guilt inside. man that sucks!!!
A friend of mine has recently had an x-ray/scan and it has shown a 'large cloudy area' covering the majority of his chest area inside, they are in the process of finding out what it is and treating him, but the guy is still smoking all day long like nothing has happened, i've tried giving a friendly 'push' to stop but i figure the best way is for me to stop as well and maybe it could rub off on him. I have had a 'naggy' feeling in my head to stop smoking tobacco for the last few weeks, i've been a light smoker for about 3 years now, not long and i shouldnt have started in the first place considering i lasted so long and went my entire childhood and teens not touching a cig. The time is now for me and hopefully my friend will see the light to, it's horrible to say but there's already a small chance it's too late for him to make a difference, but it's not too late for myself to quit and to also encourage this guy that where there's a 'chance' for the worst, there is also the chance for the better.
Cheers for the thread BOG, will be toking pure again in no time (how i first started).
Noddy
I have started a thread about my smoking. I've been smoking cigs for 21 years and I've set my quit date for 3/04/05. I've got my nic gum, trident gum and walking shoes ready. I need to be healthy. Being I'm in my mid 30's I don't think its too late to hope for a healthy life down the road. I want to live free from cigs, and to walk up stairs without getting winded. Good for everyone who has quit and wish this poor body of mine luck. I'm going to need it!
Milonix420, is nearing the third door and while it doesn't mean he will be safe it does mean he has accomplished the task. He will promise to stay tobacco free for life to get the seeds but he will be the one to hold himself to that committment. When we fall back it isn't good because it harms our self esteem but don't let a fall back stop you.
I never meant to say falling back was ok. Believe me when I tell you that I stay tobacco free with the help of my wife and friends. I have had fall backs but don't think that it's ok because any smoking and you lose the freedom. The addiction returns so fast that you just can't use any ever again to be safe.
Why make yourselves suffer through this over and over again when you know that it's bullshit to use tobacco. Let me tell you the main reason why smoking is bad.
We have the task of reaching enlightenment in our lifetimes or we won't gain eternal life. While we will be given as many chances as we need to accomplish this goal failure means starting all over again being reborn as a child without memory again. This is the natural cycle of life and death but there is another level to be reached.
In the next level we need not live and die over and over but become beings of light who are quite immortal. My point is that I believe we have a limited time in each life to learn the things we need to learn in order to ascend to the next dimension. You may think I am nutz but that's ok. Just remember that I want us all to make it.
You have the power to free yourself, live long, and reach the next level if you seek this. seek and ye shall find. BOG
Bog last week I buried my father after 40+ years of smoking a few days previous he was in the hospital in room 620. The bitch of it is in room 618 was my father in-law who was an avid smoker for 30+ years but since has been smoke free for 7 years. My father died My father in-law went home. For those of you needing anymore reasons to quit that have not been said already if you smoke cigarettes you will die much sooner than those that don't. All of the Marlboro men recieved free cigs for appearing in the commercials and now they are ALL dead. I myself have smoked for the last 20 years but I must say seeing my father laying dead in that damn hospital bed was a wake up call. Everyday now I look at my six year old little girl and think for each pack I smoke is one less day I get to spend with her and someday my grandchildren. Bog you have already proven (months ago) you wisdom regarding keeping life K.I.S.S. Reading this thread only compounds by belief in your teachings. I want to live BOG I'm going to live BOG. I just wanted to thank you and my father for the kick in the ass wake up call.
I LOVE being able to give my hands a nice deep sniff ANYTIME and not wondering why after just one smoke why it smells more like i rumagged around inside an ashtray. Now they smell like clean skin!!! I just quit 34 hours ago...using a patch, and I feel GREAAAAT!! Its the stinky part of cigaretts I have always hated. Im a bit bitter that the reason I started smoking at 19 was because everyone smoked around me...and everywhere I went there seemed to be an ashtray with 2-5 smokes sitting in it, and guess where all that smoke seemed to drift....RIGHT UP MY NOSE...was ironic. So, it was "if you cant beat'm join'm" who knows ...I may have saved my life, second hand smoke being worse, and me not being able to handle it. I sure am glad to be finaly willing and wanting and able to QUIT FOR GOOD. My five year old daughter will be returning from vacation and Im very excited to suprise her with the new ....not stinky mommy. Feel free to kiss me sweetheart, and dont shrink back when I move a hair from your face....mommy doesnt stink any more .....huggggggggggsss.
Well my son's b-day is upon me again. Except this year he has started stealing my cigs and lighters. I have caught him a few times. The last time he said it was my fault, if I didn't smoke he wouldn't have started. Well I was mad but I knew in the back of my head hes' probably right. I need to do it for me and for him too now. I need to show him I mean buisness. :wink: So as of 3/15/05 I will be cig free! :wink: It's harvest time so that will help, lol !
Sorry to hear about youre Father MrWags. My father died a couple years back on ThanksGivings day.He knew he had Lung Cancer and he smoked til the end.Ive been Tabaccy free for awhile now.After catching my 17 year old daughter smokin it finally whacked me .Took awhile but i got it done,and this thread with the help of all you guys and the Boggernaut- lol,i got thru it.So everyone trying,dont give up if you fail,i failed a bunch before it sunk in.MrWags,again i want to say that i feel for you and my prayers are with you and youre family.DWW
I've been smoking cigs for 5 years, been trying to quit for 20 years. On New Years Eve I promised myself to set a day to quit . I did not set a day . That has been the story for the past 20 years until a cold made me cough blood along with the " normal brown color phlegm " at the end of Febuary this year. I quit for good on 3/ 1/ 2005 . I am starting to feel better and expelling alot less chuncky matter. Read the threads on this in December last year . Told myself to pass the 2nd door before I posted in this thread . Hope a newbie like myself can still get those seeds at the passage of the 3rd door. Thanks , PFCruz
You will tell me when you have passed through that third door. That is when you have quit for 3 months. You must decide when you have earned the free seeds sp remember to be honest with yourself.
If you think that life is simple perhaps you could be a buddhist and just don't know it. Perhaps in your past lives you discovered the simple truths of life and became enlightened. In each life we have to find the simple truths again but it isn't so hard.
Just by chanting nam myoho renge kyo you can bring out your own buddha nature. You are filled with joy and goodness when you help another person. To become more in tune with your natural surroundings means good things for those you love.
Be happy with life and see if you can live without tobacco my friends because my mom was right. Her dream was so true. Remember the one about the people chained to rocks as the tide came in to drown them? And yet she said she saw that they held the keys to their chains but were unwilling to unlock them to even save their lives.
Why wouldn't you wish to live free and be happy? This chant is Nichiren Buddhism and it refers to the essence of the Lotus Sutra, the most sacred and last thing that the original buddha preached on earth before his acension. He taught that just chanting Nam Myoho Renge Kyo would change the world and he preached this in the 1200's.
I have investigated this and we have a thread you can search out if interested in getting help finding your inner strength. Search out in our search engine here... chanting growers group.
When you feel weak or frightened try chanting nam myoho renge kyo which means devotion to the highest universal laws. We must respect our purposes and our lives because the goal is enlightenment in this life not after. We must be involved to create the more peaceful and happy world Buddha envisioned.
Study up on Nichiren Daishonin and his teachings on the Lotus Sutra. The real and true final teaching for us all. BOG
Fill your hearts with joy because I have just given you wonderful news!
Dont know if this will help anyone
I smoked for nearly 25 years and am fast aproaching the 1 year mark
What did it for me was how bad i felt in the morning for only being 40 I then coupled those thoughts with ones of me not living to see my youngest grown and self suffcient ..That did it I love my children more than life itself so it was all the motivation i needed
You must find a reason to quit... gwfh1974 found her reason I imagine she will do it for good this time
We need motivation to quit You must find a reason to unlock yer lock the tide is coming in and were running outa time
It was the hardest thing i have ever given up ...and i remind myself that everytime i have an urge
Bozo, thanks and that does help others. The fact that you want to help means you respect human life. You are correct that we need motivation and it took a heart operation for me to quit. Smoker's are afraid to try to quit because they don't think they can and we hate failure.
I say tell everyone that you are quitting on a certain date. Get a calendar and make the date and reduce your smoking. Have your patches or whatever you choose to help you but make a plan. Commit to your plan to unlock the padlock holding you down. If you quit I will be very happy but don't do it for me. Do it for everyone. BOG
I have lost count of the days it has been so long it seems, I quit counting after the first six weeks. It was great not having to do a New Years Resolution too. My roomate did a great job too, he didn't even use the patch like me. Together I think we have kicked the 'ole nasty! Looking back at the thread I counted 103 days!
My dentist said my gums are healthy and no signs of chewing tobacco related problems. I used this new whitening gel from crest and my teeth have never been whiter, I have a great smile now and the ladies aren't grossed out by all the spit cups lying around the house.
I need to add up the days and estimate how much money I have saved, when I do, you can bet I will spend it on Bog's stuff, thanks alot for getting me in the right mind about it Bog, see you around.
BOG - I sure miss your frequent posts over on OG... looks like this is your new home - cool.
I'm 41 smoked since I was 12 or 13, I'm diabetic now too, and stopping smoking is a MUST for my well being. I've been trying to cut back... hit and miss at best... sometime the wife and I will leave our cigarettes in the kitchen and only smoke in the kitchen... I smoke like hell when I'm on the computer or sitting around watching TV getting high with friends.
My wife suddenly got 2 lumps in her throat... she smokes too of course, turned out to be thyroid related something call Graves Desease, that was enough to scare the hell of me, I was worried it was cancer. Regardless, with my diabetes and my already increased risk of heart attack or stroke I really have to do this.
I read this thread earlier today, thought a lot about it and went out and bought the Nicorette inhaler and the gum, so tomorrow morning is my first real serious stop smoking no matter what day. The wifes in full agreement, she actually quite a while back for 3 years, I didn't so she started again.
Your words truly inspired me to go out and DO this, thank you for that, sometimes it makes more sense to hear it from a fellow toker rather than in the Dr's office.
I'm sitting here chain smoking now, looking at the nicorettes and the gum, I'm actually looking forward to this ... the health benefits of course and the money savings too, they're nearly $10 a pack up here in Canada now.
I'll post as time goes by, I've put a lot of thought into this, I too have been in intensive care, tube in throat, and a wheel chair for a year, all from Diabetes, now I'm totally back on my feet, I've been warned a 1,000 times to quit, its a hell of an addidiction, I can't believe they're legal to sell.
I'm going to do this, wish I had 20 years ago, if just one youngster says NO I'm not going to smoke as a result of reading your words its worth it.
i wanted to add... i use a Volcano Vaporizer now and almost never smoke, except for kief or bubble in pipe once in a while, that helped make my check feel less heavy.
do you use a vaporizer BOG, does anyone else here?
peace