California will Vote on Recreational Pot in Nov

[corky1968]

To grow commercially, most likely there will be multiple layers of licenses to obtain.

You should have to get multiple licenses to grow commercially. There's no industry were
the public is served where one licence and/or permit is sufficient and for good reasons.

How many licenses and/or permits do you think for example does a restaurant owner have?
I can tell you it's more than just one.

The person growing for himself on the other hand should be left alone just like a home brewer
and not need any licences. To my knowledge home brewers don't have to register anywhere.
So if that is fine for the home brewer. Then it should be good enough for the home grower.

 

[z-ro]

^^ It is sad seeing all the small timers here dreaming that their 'dank' will command thousands of dollars for a pound after legalization. Since 215 prices have dropped steadily here in Cali. It just takes a decade or 3 to kick in. Legal will cut prices in half at the least, just have to wait some years.

Never gonna be like tomatoes or xmas trees imo. Sorry bout that Sam. Nice image of pot trees being sold like xmas trees though.

Cali is going down the crapper imo. They need every dime of revenue and even then will be going into debt. Pretty tight control of sale and tax exploitation of pot is your only option here.

Its been legal in Colorado for a few years now and prices are not dropping.

Every dime of revenue won't be put into the states general fund, therefore will not help the state in any way shape or form.

Stop spouting off nonsense just to be heard you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[bombadil.360]

Its been legal in Colorado for a few years now and prices are not dropping.

Every dime of revenue won't be put into the states general fund, therefore will not help the state in any way shape or form.

Stop spouting off nonsense just to be heard you have no idea what you're talking about.

WOW you seriously have issues. But Facts may disturb you in your little bubble.

"Colorado's weed is getting much cheaper.

In October, the cost of a wholesale pound of cannabis was around $2,400 to $2,600. That price has almost been cut in half to between $1,400 and $1,600 last month, according to data from Tradiv, an online marijuana-distribution platform.

"In less than a year, we've seen wholesale prices drop to nearly half of their previous totals," John Manlove, director of sales at Tradiv, told Business Insider in an email. "We've never seen prices like this."

The reason prices are dropping so rapidly is because the market's getting flooded. As growers ramp up production, the huge amount of marijuana hitting the market in Colorado is causing a "steady decline" in wholesale prices regardless of demand, says Manlove.

The story's similar for Washington, where the price of legal marijuana has dropped precipitously..."

Etc...

 

[huligun]

This thread has had 45,000 views and 1430 replies in a relatively short time. It would seem everyone in Cali would be happy to see our beloved plant legal, but not so.

 

[yesum]

Its been legal in Colorado for a few years now and prices are not dropping.

Every dime of revenue won't be put into the states general fund, therefore will not help the state in any way shape or form.

Stop spouting off nonsense just to be heard you have no idea what you're talking about.

Wow, you put me in my place! Sorry, I will not post here again. Thru 2014 shops could not buy their supply had to grow it themselves. So about 2 years in now. You gotta be patient brah. I never said the money will help cali, I know it is lost anyways.

Bombadil has some disturbing stuff to read, but he is just talking. Not a hard core semi legal gangsta like yourself.

 

[armedoldhippy]

yah lets stifle the free market, that always works great.


no on 64!

the free market deals with licenses/regulations. only really "free" market is where you give your neighbors some of the produce out of your garden. but THAT kind of "free" is not what you want, is it? good luck... vote your conscience, not your wallet. if you don't HAVE a conscience, do the rest of us a favor - stay home & don't vote.

 

[_tessarecting]

Lol @ legal

 

[bluntmassa]

What about seeds? I haven't read much about seed sales. It maybe an opportunity for someone. What about humboldt gold? Or Mendo mint? Or trinity? Who will market it? You get me right? Just thinking out loud best wishes for all cannabis lovers. Peace sdd

Maineiac Seed Foundation coming soon we are going to charge $1 per seed fem and regular I just need to get a crew together because I want a huge selection of genetics and fresh seeds constantly available.

I'm going to put Nirvana out of business also going need to find some landrace genetics. Hopefully anyway it's going to be a lot of work for sure.

 

[Robert Verde]

I was in Cali a few months ago. Stayed for a week but had zero herb. Would've been nice to go buy some fresh Cali OG but nope. Still illegal for me and I don't beg strangers for weed so no dice.

The tourism money is there but people on vacation don't have a legal option to buy.

 

[bluntmassa]

I was in Cali a few months ago. Stayed for a week but had zero herb. Would've been nice to go buy some fresh Cali OG but nope. Still illegal for me and I don't beg strangers for weed so no dice.

The tourism money is there but people on vacation don't have a legal option to buy.

For real I would love to visit CA if I could legally buy weed and not just what is available from a street dealer I want that Amsterdam like service smell it before you buy it. But it's looking good in all 5 states so just a few more days. I don't even live in one of the five states near 2 though but I never been so excited about an election before I don't even care too much who wins between Trump and Hillary because Richard Nixon with Ronald Reagan as VP could not stop the momentum if all 5 states vote to legalize.

 

[krunchbubble]

Its been legal in Colorado for a few years now and prices are not dropping.

Every dime of revenue won't be put into the states general fund, therefore will not help the state in any way shape or form.

Stop spouting off nonsense just to be heard you have no idea what you're talking about.

WOW you seriously have issues. But Facts may disturb you in your little bubble.

"Colorado's weed is getting much cheaper.

In October, the cost of a wholesale pound of cannabis was around $2,400 to $2,600. That price has almost been cut in half to between $1,400 and $1,600 last month, according to data from Tradiv, an online marijuana-distribution platform.

"In less than a year, we've seen wholesale prices drop to nearly half of their previous totals," John Manlove, director of sales at Tradiv, told Business Insider in an email. "We've never seen prices like this."

The reason prices are dropping so rapidly is because the market's getting flooded. As growers ramp up production, the huge amount of marijuana hitting the market in Colorado is causing a "steady decline" in wholesale prices regardless of demand, says Manlove.

The story's similar for Washington, where the price of legal marijuana has dropped precipitously..."

Etc...

I was in Cali a few months ago. Stayed for a week but had zero herb. Would've been nice to go buy some fresh Cali OG but nope. Still illegal for me and I don't beg strangers for weed so no dice.

The tourism money is there but people on vacation don't have a legal option to buy.

Certainly didn't look hard enough....

Ive had many friends from out of state fly here, Skype a doctor for a recommendation and have access to all medical clubs within a hour of landing...

Weedmaps...

 

[huligun]

I live in Seattle and go to a rather popular weed store on 1rst Ave.

The line is long to buy, but moves fast. The parking lot has license plates from British Colombia Canada, Idaho, Oregon, Alaska and California.

All those buyers are putting badly needed tax dollars into the city and state coffers, and putting a lot of young people to work. Most look to me like college students. They are not top rate jobs, but minimum wage in Seattle is $15.00 USD per hour. And... all the employees I meet from the bouncers to the bud tenders seem to love their jobs.

The jobs created are not just directly related to the weed business. Hotels, restaurants, gas stations and other sectors like tourism are all benefiting from the legal recreational weed business. Ironically there were taxes placed on most of the tourism services to pay for the baseball stadium. That includes hotels, restaurants, taxis, airport taxes etc.

Other businesses that benefit from weed tourist are just shopping centers, and other retail outlets. My business is in art and our sales have benefited since the legalization. I cannot say that it has directly benefited from recreational weed sales with 100% certainty, but my customers are hip, liberal and are often tourist looking for something unique to take back home with them. The increase in sales could be for a lot of reasons, but it does coincide with the recreational stores opening up in the state. I am talking about a gradual rise to 15% in a two year period. The charts do not lie.

I have a lot of pride living in a place that is progressive enough to have legal recreational weed. I cannot imagine living in a place where you would have to go to court for just having weed on you.

There is still a MMJ program and a black market that is cheaper than the stores. All the stores do is offer us all just more options. And the fact is, I always score the best weed at the stores, albeit expensive.

I cannot believe a single person with a drop of common sense would think that legalizing weed would hurt anyone. It has a been a huge boon in business and pride for us. I imagine other places with rec weed feel the same.

 

[VenturaHwy]

It hurts the small time growers Haligun, that is who it hurts. From what I've seen the prices are way higher in the recreational stores also. I already posted the store prices here so I won't do it again.

This is a growers forum, or at least I thought it was.

 

[bluntmassa]

Certainly didn't look hard enough....

Ive had many friends from out of state fly here, Skype a doctor for a recommendation and have access to all medical clubs within a hour of landing...

Weedmaps...

Sounds like a whole lot of hassle I never even used Skype. Also what happened to needing to be a CA citizen? You telling me they fixed a bad deal?

Go ahead and wait for your CCHI that y'all can't get on the ballot because only growers think it's better and they are a minority so it will never get on the ballot. It makes more sense to tax and regulate like every legal drug. Do you know much about American history? We need regulations because of snake oil salesmen same with medical marijuana some are selling hash oil that is far from as strong as claimed to seriously sick people. Some people are using pesticides on weed for medicine! It's a mess and only takes one bad apple to ruin the bunch.

But we will know what the people decide the day after tomorrow you can look at like a good thing or like the movie. Lol

I would personally have an attached greenhouse with 6 huge plants along with a secret indoor grow room. Would be great because I have a wood stove that heats my house like a bastard and would keep the green house plenty warm in bellow zero temperatures my house gets over 80 but that is about the temperature I open my windows even in below zero temperatures.

 

[bluntmassa]

Growers want California to secede or break away from the United States cuz of prop 64.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/California-secession-group-to-hold-meet-up-at-10594349.php

http://www.yescalifornia.org/

California secession group to hold meet-up at State Capitol

The Yes California Independence Campaign, which is based in San Diego, is aiming to qualify a citizen's initiative in 2018 to get a referendum for secession on the ballot in 2019. They'll be in Sacramento to garner support for their initiative.

"In our view," a statement on its website reads, "the United States of America represents so many things that conflict with Californian values, and our continued statehood means California will continue subsidizing the other states to our own detriment, and to the detriment of our children."
And it appears the organization has been considering its strategy for quite a while now. On its site, you'll find a link to a 33-page "Blue Book" wherein the organization answers any hypothetical questions about the state becoming its own country. The details for the secession — dubbed the #CalExit — include such topics such as "Will we join the United Nations?" and "Will we have our own Olympic team?".
While the notion of an independent California does seem well-intended — points about immigration, environmental concerns, and education are thoughtful — the practicality of such a proposal is tenuous at best.
Will this secession campaign be viable? In a word: No. As we know from the Civil War, just because a state wants to secede doesn't mean the Union will let it. As Washington Post writer Philip Bump wrote earlier this year, Congress simply would not, for many reasons, allow it.
"There's no mechanism for Congress to simply say, 'Sure, off you go.' Once you're in, you're in," he wrote. "The United States was born an expansionist enterprise, and the idea of contraction, it seems, never really came up."

Nevertheless, the Facebook group for the organization is surprisingly strong. With over 11,000 members who have liked the page, the movement might at least gain some steam...even if it is just a lot of useless hot air.
In the meantime, you can learn more about their platform here at their website.

Texas has a better chance but that ain't going to happen. If everyone stopped paying taxes though the empire will fall. But California is a Democrat state they love paying taxes. Lol

Not to mention what will happen to California when they can no longer get water from other states? Just face it California needs the USA they don't have enough water to survive alone.

 

[iBogart]

It hurts the small time growers Haligun, that is who it hurts. From what I've seen the prices are way higher in the recreational stores also. I already posted the store prices here so I won't do it again.

This is a growers forum, or at least I thought it was.

If your world view is only that of your quater acre plot of pot in your backyard in norcal, I'm afraid trouble is in your future.

 

[DoobieDuck]

........
Never gonna be like tomatoes or xmas trees imo. Sorry bout that Sam. Nice image of pot trees being sold like xmas trees though.....

Happy voting everyone, it won't be long until we know how this all plays out. No matter how that is, I think we'll all still be friends in the end. Puff puff pass...DD

 

[Robert Verde]

Certainly didn't look hard enough....

Ive had many friends from out of state fly here, Skype a doctor for a recommendation and have access to all medical clubs within a hour of landing...

Weedmaps...

Fuck landing they serve drinks on the plane! Once I landed a six pack of beer was as easy to get as walking into a gas station. And they had plenty of local micro brews for me to select from. Cannabis deserves the same. I bet the buy in to open a successful microbrewery and a grow op, or rec shop will cost about the same. Opening any business of that nature done professionally is very expensive. Same reason why you can't open your own place and had start threads on these forums asking for "industry jobs".

I actually didn't look at all. I don't care about needing to be stoned 24/7. I am not a drug addict I just like to smoke herb. I refuse to beg a doctor or a dealer. If I go without then that's just the way it is but no big deal for me.

Why should anyone on a quick vacation or business trip need to commit fraud and go through that much bullshit for a bag of weed? I didn't even have time to do all that extra crap. I just want to be able to walk into a store, look around and purchase what I want legally without hassle.

How much does a corrupt doctors recommendation (bribe) cost in your area? How much does a 1/4 oz of "medicine" cost? How much is an extra hour out of an already busy schedule worth? People need to demand accountability and integrity from any medical profession and it's not currently happening in California. Recreational is the future like it or not.

This is how the vast majority of people view the issue and the reason why this bill will most likely pass in a few days.

 

[_tessarecting]

Lol @ bribe

 

[trippn]

Well, I know it won't cost a dime to grow 6 plants. To grow commercially, most likely there will be multiple layers of licenses to obtain. In other words, you're current corner drug dealer will find it difficult to get in the growing business. Legally that is.

wow; cool dude!!

You get your power from PG&E for free huh?