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California will Vote on Recreational Pot in Nov
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"with a secret indoor grow room "
Dude; if you have to admit you have to break the law before it is even law; maybe that law is not worth our time
.“This is not the legalization I spent 30 years fighting for. This is commoditization.”
– Vivian McPeak, Executive Director of Seattle Hempfest
She has tons of common sense.
"This punishment is in harsh contrast to the penalty that exists now. Currently, sharing any amount of cannabis under an ounce with other adults under 21 is a mere infraction in California, punishable by a $100 fine. If Prop. 64 passes, however, this harmless, victimless recreational activity would become a criminal offense, elevated to misdemeanor status statewide. And being convicted of it would do more than create criminals out of responsible young adults: any misdemeanor conviction makes young offenders ineligible for federal student aid. So, Prop. 64’s claim that it “protects our children” fails to mention that it throws our teens in jail and could deleteriously impact their ability to go to college.
Even parents who want to celebrate “legalization” by sharing a joint with their adult children who are under 21 would become criminals under Prop. 64, and would face 6 months in jail and/or a $500 fine (Sec.11360.2). And nothing in the initiative would protect parents from Child Protective Services if they choose to exercise their right to recreationally possess, cultivate or consume.
From this it is clear that Prop. 64 was written not to decriminalize cannabis, but to legalize a recreational commercial cannabis industry, not unlike Washington’s much-derided initiative. "
http://youtu.be/xXH5agV7skw
This is what the rest of us not in states that have rec or med laws on ballets are thinking about. It starts at around the 7 minute mark. It does not matter if you like Obama or Clinton or whoever, this is the reality of the situation. The longer we wait for the perfect bill the longer people all over THE WHOLE WORLD have to live in oppression and in fear just to relax or to even medicate. I'm sorry some of you will lose your grey area profits and I am even more sorry that some of you won't be able to grow enough plants to medicate properly but, if you would keep the rest of the world from progressing just for your own selfish reasons for any situation, I have no feelings for you and you are not or never have been part of this movement. Even you guys who have been at this forever but think this bill is not worth voting for, you guys have lost all respect IMO. I know some of you are afraid of corporate America and have some very anti establishment fears (pretty sure all of us who have been in this counter culture for this long have some fear and ptsd in this regard) but the times have changed and this is how the cards fell. If you don't like it then either change it from the inside out or move. I am personally tired of people who would hold the rest of the world hostage just because they were unable to evolve like the rest of us and are scared that the establishment and some rich people have a secret hidden agenda against us. We live in a capitalistic world. You need to adapt and come up with s business plan going forward or you need to give up and crawl back in your holes. Most weekends I like to get a flavor or two of a good micro brew and catch a really nice buzz off something tasty. About once a month or two I like to get a case of coors light and pound the whole thing and get stupid. It's the same with food and cloths and everything else in my life and one day, hopefully sooner than later I'll be able to do the same thing with cannabis. I guess we will see if that ball gets rolling for the rest of he world sooner rather than later on Tuesday. Maybe if some of you have really nice cuts or are impeccable growers, I'll be buying your mom and pop herb in the small case reserved for the expensive stuff right next to the giant case full of shwag at the gas station down the road from my house. I promise I'll post selfies to face book with how great your weed is so that Sean Parker can make some more money off of your suffering.
This is what the rest of us not in states that have rec or med laws on ballets are thinking about. It starts at around the 7 minute mark. It does not matter if you like Obama or Clinton or whoever, this is the reality of the situation. The longer we wait for the perfect bill the longer people all over THE WHOLE WORLD have to live in oppression and in fear just to relax or to even medicate. I'm sorry some of you will lose your grey area profits and I am even more sorry that some of you won't be able to grow enough plants to medicate properly but, if you would keep the rest of the world from progressing just for your own selfish reasons for any situation, I have no feelings for you and you are not or never have been part of this movement. Even you guys who have been at this forever but think this bill is not worth voting for, you guys have lost all respect IMO. I know some of you are afraid of corporate America and have some very anti establishment fears (pretty sure all of us who have been in this counter culture for this long have some fear and ptsd in this regard) but the times have changed and this is how the cards fell. If you don't like it then either change it from the inside out or move. I am personally tired of people who would hold the rest of the world hostage just because they were unable to evolve like the rest of us and are scared that the establishment and some rich people have a secret hidden agenda against us. We live in a capitalistic world. You need to adapt and come up with s business plan going forward or you need to give up and crawl back in your holes. Most weekends I like to get a flavor or two of a good micro brew and catch a really nice buzz off something tasty. About once a month or two I like to get a case of coors light and pound the whole thing and get stupid. It's the same with food and cloths and everything else in my life and one day, hopefully sooner than later I'll be able to do the same thing with cannabis. I guess we will see if that ball gets rolling for the rest of he world sooner rather than later on Tuesday. Maybe if some of you have really nice cuts or are impeccable growers, I'll be buying your mom and pop herb in the small case reserved for the expensive stuff right next to the giant case full of shwag at the gas station down the road from my house. I promise I'll post selfies to face book with how great your weed is so that Sean Parker can make some more money off of your suffering.
That Jim Jones Kool-Aid is bad for your health
bluntmassa
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For real Yes on prop 64 AUMA for the good of the world!!
As well as the other 4 states!
bluntmassa
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"with a secret indoor grow room "
Dude; if you have to admit you have to break the law before it is even law; maybe that law is not worth our time
Or you can just grow some balls. Going to need to do something because prop 64 is going to be a reality.
VOTE NO fake-ass legalization !
“This is not the legalization I spent 30 years fighting for. This is commoditization.”
– Vivian McPeak, Executive Director of Seattle Hempfest
“This is not the legalization I spent 30 years fighting for. This is commoditization.”
– Vivian McPeak, Executive Director of Seattle Hempfest
I am a small time grower and this measure, which will pass btw, helps me directly. I do not sell. Seller is the word you seek.
Maybe you can start a sellers forum.
VenturaHwy, that song may date you my friend.
You say legalization hurts the small time grower, but you do not substantiate that claim what-so-ever. You just say it like it is true.
Let me just say this about that... Weed IS very expensive in the stores, which we both agree.
If a small time grower sells at the current or even a higher, yet un-taxed rate, he/she will still make more money. I personally know people that absolutely refuse to spend $55 per eighth for weed (which we all agree has been the dispensary price in SoCal and the Bay area all along). I really cannot see weed costing more in a rec store than the current prices in the dispensaries there.
The more that weed is accepted by mainstream society and allowed by law, the better it is for everyone that is in "the business". More people will be safer than ever before and rules at work become more relaxed as a result. When it is legal to get high it is pretty hard to go after someone that is doing something legal.
I cannot for the life of me see how any of you with a single drop of common sense, fortitude or business acumen could ever argue in 100 years how legalization would be bad for us, including growers.
And you say this is a grow site... It is, but read all the other stuff on this site with your eyes open. And to that benefit, the weed that is being bought in the stores is good. People do grow it using all the knowledge we have learned on sites like ICmag for better handling, combating pest and disease, and just harvesting the best genetics at the appropriate time.
I am sure you are a nice guy and I did like your comment for the sake of intelligent debate, but to debate correctly you have to list facts, and not just gut feelings or biased opinions. We all benefit Largely from the complete legalization of herb outside a quazi medical system. The medical community feels that the current MMJ program meets none of the criteria for other medical treatments and is bound to fall apart one day one way or another. I don't like that, but it is a fact. Nobody is written a prescription for a given amount to treat a given illness.
I have always preferred to get high for fun and not medicate. I hate that word medicate and have never used it, even when I was using the medical loophole to get high.
You say legalization hurts the small time grower, but you do not substantiate that claim what-so-ever. You just say it like it is true.
Let me just say this about that... Weed IS very expensive in the stores, which we both agree.
If a small time grower sells at the current or even a higher, yet un-taxed rate, he/she will still make more money. I personally know people that absolutely refuse to spend $55 per eighth for weed (which we all agree has been the dispensary price in SoCal and the Bay area all along). I really cannot see weed costing more in a rec store than the current prices in the dispensaries there.
The more that weed is accepted by mainstream society and allowed by law, the better it is for everyone that is in "the business". More people will be safer than ever before and rules at work become more relaxed as a result. When it is legal to get high it is pretty hard to go after someone that is doing something legal.
I cannot for the life of me see how any of you with a single drop of common sense, fortitude or business acumen could ever argue in 100 years how legalization would be bad for us, including growers.
And you say this is a grow site... It is, but read all the other stuff on this site with your eyes open. And to that benefit, the weed that is being bought in the stores is good. People do grow it using all the knowledge we have learned on sites like ICmag for better handling, combating pest and disease, and just harvesting the best genetics at the appropriate time.
I am sure you are a nice guy and I did like your comment for the sake of intelligent debate, but to debate correctly you have to list facts, and not just gut feelings or biased opinions. We all benefit Largely from the complete legalization of herb outside a quazi medical system. The medical community feels that the current MMJ program meets none of the criteria for other medical treatments and is bound to fall apart one day one way or another. I don't like that, but it is a fact. Nobody is written a prescription for a given amount to treat a given illness.
I have always preferred to get high for fun and not medicate. I hate that word medicate and have never used it, even when I was using the medical loophole to get high.
weedaholic721
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Don't forget to Vote, it's all decided Tuesday.
May the odds be ever in your favor...
May the odds be ever in your favor...
Lyfespan
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so many hypocrits, so lil money.
fuck these laws, i abide by none of them.
i grow where i want, i smoke where i want with who i want.
living a grey area life.
still no on 64, dont care for the big brother affect on my smoking, dont care for recreational taxation, dont care, dont care
going to keep on keepin on
fuck these laws, i abide by none of them.
i grow where i want, i smoke where i want with who i want.
living a grey area life.
still no on 64, dont care for the big brother affect on my smoking, dont care for recreational taxation, dont care, dont care
going to keep on keepin on
Then you obviously have not read through this thread huligun. I already stated how. But I'll do it one more time. Our plant limits went from 15 down to 4 plants, and the limit for harvested buds from 24 down to 3 ounces. Some people like the big govt driving the small growers out.
And all of the MMJ dispensaries have closed. All of the farmers markets have closed. So you really don't have an argument.
Haligun was talking about how great it was in WA State, which it is not. I'm leaving the Cali debate for those who live there.
Nonsense. We had MMJ passed in my state and all the growers were for it and voted for it. So get real. Legalization is not legalization for small growers, it destroyed the MMJ growers here. And yes I thought this was a growers forum. Look at all the threads if you think otherwise. Enjoy the overpriced recreational. Last I looked I think it may have been 100 bucks for a 1/4 ounce here.
I googled price of Washington state cannabis. The first link said high quality oz's were average of $233. Average quality was under 200. The dispensary prices were all over the place but I saw some ounces for $200.
The other links were all about the falling price of pot there.
I will enjoy growing my own and not relying on people like you.
The other links were all about the falling price of pot there.
I will enjoy growing my own and not relying on people like you.
Lyfespan
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what do you need 64 for to grow what you already can?
What about folks that want to grow and sell recreational Cannabis without a fricking doctors OK? Today it is not legal to grow, sell or use recreational Cannabis. Recreational Cannabis users are the majority, why do they not deserve legal recreational Cannabis?
I don't want no firicking doctors note to say I can grow and smoke recreational Cannabis, that is ridiculous.
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