Steady Cropper, were they saying the original California Orange was created in 1980 by crossing those two, or that it was another cross that was done with the California Orange in 1980? thanks bud
Dankwolf, Sam says in one of your posts that very few pure seeds of Cali-O were sold but lots of crosses. What are your thoughts on whether Sam sold Nevil the pure Cali-O originally?
It has been established, in Sam's own words, that he took seed over there and made a deal with Nevil to allow him to use his stock to make hybrids, but not to sell in pure form. In less than a year, Nevil was selling knockoffs.
In one of his first catalogs, he listed the Orange Bud, as selfed, or what I took to be F2's.
To me it makes sense that he could of easily gave Nevil the pure Cali-O, thinking he would n't knock them off.
The reason I'm trying to get to the bottom of this is because from what I've discovered, and knowing the history, I would imagine that White Label Seeds, a subsidery of Sensi, would have the closest thing to the pure as anyone. It is common knowledge that Sam made a deal with Nevil, and Nevil reportedly sold the strains, and the Cannabis Castle to Ben Dronkers for a million dollars when he had to bail A-Dam.
White Label refers to it at California Orange Bud, or Orange Bud. No one else is calling it by the original name that I could tell.
yes indeed, looks like an older catalog, the oldest descriptions seem to mention the indica
yes indeed, looks like an older catalog, the oldest descriptions seem to mention the indica
and as shown, nirvana packed up seeds from various breeders
and that has changed plenty, i think their sativa version was after this one
and later i think it reverted back to something heavy on the indica
1 thing about the indica, flavor and nose solid 9/10
and a few crosses i've made from a male cali-o, nice flavors there 2, maybe some dominance there
edit: actually 2004, sounds about right