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Yes4Prop215

Yes4Prop215

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i am definately 100% behind having new meetings free of zeke with an organized structure of some kind.

also can we coordinate more attendance at any future BOS meetings. i feel like thats one place people can go and complain directly to their elected officials without worry of risking your property/tickets etc like you would in an administrative hearing.
 
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Urbngroz

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If you get cited you have to somehow get the county to sign of on abatement, then re plant a few weeks later. Force them to come back over and over, maybe get one off.How long can they keep this up with no actual complaints?

On a second note, just finished pluggin the hill. Wish everyone the best of luck with this season, I think we are gonna need it.:tiphat:
 
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milkyjoe

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Nothing but the best to y'all. You are truly dealing with weapon grade stupid. They do realize what is going to happen to the local economy right? Focus on that...do not get drug into an argument with retards...before you know it you sound like them
 
oldCounty

oldCounty

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I'm hearing complaints from the convienent store owners about business being rough because of measure a. The county really fucked a lot of non growers over. Soil orders were pretty dry until end of last week I was told, the haulers aren't too happy about business either. A lot of property going for sale cheap out here.
 
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25ftGreatWhite

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The argument should be purely economic at this point. Recent property sales, days on market, etc, would be fairly easy to get from any broker - I would assume the vast majority of Butte's wealth is held in real estate assets. It would be a stinging reality to every property owner that their properties, and by extension their net worth, are now significantly less given Measure A. The Wealth Effect is very real and devastating to fragile economies, ala Butte County.
 
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tankerton

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Unfortunately their may still be some high sales prices this season. Many people got out as soon as the we lost the vote and owner finance leads to outrageously inflated land prices. Lots of out of towners started up opps in our neighborhood and they don't give two shits about county ordinances. Its a shame that in 2015, we are headed back into the woods.
 
_tessarecting

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The guy who got caught with 3000 plants with a glass dick and a .22 in mendo forest last month was given a bail set about half as much as one of the growers who got busted in the county.
 
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Urbngroz

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25ftGreatWhite said:
The argument should be purely economic at this point. Recent property sales, days on market, etc, would be fairly easy to get from any broker - I would assume the vast majority of Butte's wealth is held in real estate assets. It would be a stinging reality to every property owner that their properties, and by extension their net worth, are now significantly less given Measure A. The Wealth Effect is very real and devastating to fragile economies, ala Butte County.
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Ive heard somebody mention it before, before paying next years property tax we should demand an appraisal using recent comps from the bloodbath otherwise known as growers getting the f*** out of Butte at any cost.
 
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tankerton

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_tessarecting said:
The guy who got caught with 3000 plants with a glass dick and a .22 in mendo forest last month was given a bail set about half as much as one of the growers who got busted in the county.
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Yeah for my homie it was 150,000. All bank accounts frozen, generators, lights, and vehicles seized. He did a really stupid thing by not tossing the cuttings when he told them to come back with a warrant. He didn't know they would go in his house and he was the first one busted so its not like he had all the info about their procedures. This is what is complete bullshit though on a criminal warrant the locations you want to search have to be stated on the warrant. An administrative warrant gives them access to anything that they want but still reserve the right to charge criminally when they feel like it.
 
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tankerton

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Tess- did you get visited and refuse inspection, warrant served at later date? I know of another person who was out of town for 4 days came while he was gone came back while he was gone and when he returned he had a 3500 ticket but they did not abate.
 
_tessarecting

_tessarecting

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If you post 11 more times we can send private messages with details.
Yeah I've had to deal with them being sneaky and pushy. Saw them ripping through the sky earlier too
 
mojave green

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California Rules of Professional Conduct rule 5.100 prohibits the threat of presenting criminal, administrative, or disciplinary charges to obtain an advantage in a civil dispute. This rule seeks to discourage the collateral use, or threat of use, of criminal, administrative or disciplinary proceedings to exert leverage in the settlement of civil disputes. The reverse, however, is not a violation of this ethical rule. Be conscious of your actions throughout a case – from the wording of a compliance letter to negotiations in pleading out a case – so that you do not violate this rule. An example of a violation: a prosecutor cannot offer to dismiss a criminal prosecution on the condition that a release of civil liability be provided.
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10 Another potential trap to consider is whether cases such as Nightlife v. City of Beverly Hills (2003) 108 Cal.App.4th 81 and its progeny affect a City Attorney’s ability to function as both prosecutor and impartial counsel at an administrative proceeding on a matter that has both criminal and civil consequences (e.g., a CUP, variance, or business license revocation) based on the same facts. Nightlife dealt with the issue of a City Attorney acting as a prosecutor in administrative proceedings, but similar concerns might be raised with respect to a prosecutor in judicial proceedings. The League of California Cities has a white paper on Nightlife and its progeny which is available from the League's website entitled: “Model Guidelines for Avoiding Unconstitutional Commingling of Functions in Adversarial Proceedings” November 2004, found at: www.cacities.org/resource_files/24258.due process guidelines.doc. See also “Report of the Department’s Ad Hoc Due Process Committee on the Commingling of functions in Quasi- Judicial Proceedings in the Wake of Nightlife and Quintero”, presented by Michael Jenkins, et al., at the League of California Cities Annual Conference, September 2005. To find, input search terms “due process” in the League papers website: http://www.cacities.org/index.jsp?zone=locc&section=locc_front_page&app=searchcapodb. Finally, note that the holding in Nightlife and progeny was tempered recently - see a discussion in “Due Process In Local Administrative Hearings After The California Supreme Court’s Opinion in Morongo Band of Mission Indians v. California State Water Resources Control Board, 45 Cal.4th 731 (2009) by Manuela Albuquerque, presented at the League of California Cities, City Attorneys Department Conference, May 6-8, 2009.
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43 Government Code § 36900 (a) Violation of a city ordinance is a misdemeanor unless by ordinance it is made an infraction. The violation of a city ordinance may be prosecuted by city authorities in the name of the people of the State of California, or redressed by civil action. (b) Every violation determined to be an infraction is punishable by (1) a fine not exceeding one hundred dollars ($100) for a first violation; (2) a fine not exceeding two hundred dollars ($200) for a second violation of the same ordinance within one year; (3) a fine not exceeding five hundred dollars ($500) for each additional violation of the same ordinance within one year. (c) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a violation of local building and safety codes determined to be an infraction is punishable by (1) a fine not exceeding one hundred dollars ($100) for a first violation; (2) a fine not exceeding five hundred dollars ($500) for a second violation of the same ordinance within one year; (3) a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000) for each additional violation of the same ordinance within one year of the first violation.
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http://www.cacities.org/getattachment/4f0758b2-2246-4f17-a5d2-075e7bf3aadb/5-2010-Spring-Elizabeth-M-Calciano-How-to-Prosecut.aspx
http://www.cacities.org/getattachment/d1d1adc0-fcac-40ce-bff0-a4f311c6de58/9-2009-Annual-ARIEL-PIERRE-CALONNE_2009-Ad-Hoc-Due.aspx
 
furrywall11

furrywall11

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Hey Tankerton, was your friend arrested for having the 99 +clones or was it for trying to get in the way of the cops when they were executing their search warrant?
I was just talking with a cannabis lawyer friend of mine and he seems to think it would be total BS if they called clones plants. Is your friend still in jail?


You can get your posts up in some of the word game stoner threads so you can get private messages
 
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