Are u sure ? There's always something cool around for grabs down there
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Butte County
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Are u sure ? There's always something cool around for grabs down there
What if we have been looking at the cultivation bans in the north state through the wrong lenses. Instead of fighting them on the basis of state preemption why don't we use the riverside v. Inland empire and live oak v maral decisions against them and incorporate our districts. Set up our own government, write our ordinances and enforce them in a civil manor.
For example, from Cherokee down thru oregon city 75% of the residents had to be growing. Furthermore many of the non growing residents did not care what we were doing. I'm not positive but I suspect this is true with concow, forbestown, berry creek, and forest ranch. (Sorry lakeside you might be screwed). Why not incorporate those areas and make our own towns. Study the the arial footage from 2013 to 2014, find your concentrations of grows and set your boundaries.
If we really took an honest look at things and come up with sensible regulation for collective cultivation we could change the narrative from within. You Charge a fee based on plants grown, and use those fees to enforce environmental concerns, promote organic gardening techniques through local workshops and education, and maintain and improve local roads.
It certainly would take a long time and cost a lot of money but if Butte has no intention of even letting us in the legal market it is certainly something to look at. It would definitely make the board of supervisors accountable for refusing 10-30 million annually just on grows in an agricultural county.
For example, from Cherokee down thru oregon city 75% of the residents had to be growing. Furthermore many of the non growing residents did not care what we were doing. I'm not positive but I suspect this is true with concow, forbestown, berry creek, and forest ranch. (Sorry lakeside you might be screwed). Why not incorporate those areas and make our own towns. Study the the arial footage from 2013 to 2014, find your concentrations of grows and set your boundaries.
If we really took an honest look at things and come up with sensible regulation for collective cultivation we could change the narrative from within. You Charge a fee based on plants grown, and use those fees to enforce environmental concerns, promote organic gardening techniques through local workshops and education, and maintain and improve local roads.
It certainly would take a long time and cost a lot of money but if Butte has no intention of even letting us in the legal market it is certainly something to look at. It would definitely make the board of supervisors accountable for refusing 10-30 million annually just on grows in an agricultural county.
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As far as I know all they've done so far is hand out tickets.
Some are paying some aren't.
They aren't ripping up plants, right?
Yeah some have gone down for some bs charges.
And yeah they're trespassing/intimidating.
but they haven't even set up the "court hearings" (their office) yet it seems
and they haven't sued anyone yet to pay them
So how valid are these citations?
If they don't actually start doing something other than spooking everyone
it seems to me this was all a farce. Or am I missing something?
They have a flow chart on their website on how they would potentially move forward from here but it seems they haven't yet and we shall see if they will / can at all.
I am waiting to see how things develop but that's how it seems to me right now. Thoughts/news/word on the street let's hear them.
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What if everybody greenscreened / shade clothed their whole plot and put a good fence around it and denied them access?
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They can't raid everybody.
plastochron
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http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/3995560-181/humboldt-county-pot-growers-share
i'd like to see that committee make an appearance further east
i'd like to see that committee make an appearance further east
in some areas in the lower foothills they have raided everybody, literally. they even checked properties that didnt have grows, just to get visual access to the neighbors who did have gardens. on one street alone they must have checked and knocked out at least 10 gardens.
but its true, i bet a few properties out in the boondocks of feather falls, concow, etc migth escape a check. but of all the people i know in butte, over 75% have been checked, attempted check, cited, warrant executed, etc.
well thats the advice offered by Zeke, yet i dont know anyone who has tried to take the administrative hearing matter. my citation doesnt deal with anything marijuana related so unfortunately cant do much. they got me on building permit issues and i dont want to attract any more heat to myself right now.
its pretty well known that butte county is corrupt as hell, and doing open resistance is gonna bring down a ton of heat. some of the main guys behind measure B had crazy stories about gps tracking devices on their cars, their businesses getting fucked with, etc.
butte has more money than counties like tehama, yuba etc. but i still wonder how much longer they can continue this enforcement, especially considernig there was just an article about how BCSO is having problems with recruiting new officers because they cant afford to pay as much as Chico or Oroville PD, and are low on funds and can only keep two teams of 4 sheriffs on patrol at any given time. which is funny because every day they do measure A enforcement requires 2-4 officers. im starting to think that the sheriffs that accompany the Code Enforcement are either volunteers or the bench warming squad who work part time. most of the sheriffs are severely out of shape and look more like fat truckers than real cops. they also mentioned some of them were pulled off OHV duty, so their main job is to be out patrolling the forest for off roaders without OHV licenses from what i was told.
they also mentioned that their main crime investigation unit (murders, etc) as well as their narco task force is struggling with the fund shortage as well.
Yeehaw volunteer pigs
id caution watching this unless you want to get pissed off. but it pretty much sums up the total ignorance and reefer madness that is prevalent amongst the measure A crowd. i hope all those idiots have cancer in their near future, and they come begging for relief from MMJ. and i swear a few of those speakers are now code enforcement officers too.
fuck this county.
Reefer Madness in butte county
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z37-heXU3tI
fuck this county.
Reefer Madness in butte county
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z37-heXU3tI
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Has there been more than 1 inspection warrant? (Not including the few search ones which led to arrests)
Those people on that video are complete idiots. All of their points could be easily countered but would they even listen? Are they the majority of voters in Butte? We need our own propaganda to stop their weak shit.
Has the crime really went up in the county the last few years? We need to crunch the numbers and come up with a media campaign to tell the truth about the cost/ benefits of growing.
It seems like all the people on the video had a problem with bad apples, the only thing that would even let my neighbors know Im here is the smell, which isn't that bad compared to cows or horses. No noise, no people in and out, no chained up barking pitbulls, no light pollution.
Has the crime really went up in the county the last few years? We need to crunch the numbers and come up with a media campaign to tell the truth about the cost/ benefits of growing.
It seems like all the people on the video had a problem with bad apples, the only thing that would even let my neighbors know Im here is the smell, which isn't that bad compared to cows or horses. No noise, no people in and out, no chained up barking pitbulls, no light pollution.
I completely agree. Most people are in the same boat as you. Butte County knows our neighbors aren't going to complain because we don't cause any problems. We keep our places clean, maintain our private roads, and keep a dialogue with the neighbors so if their is a problem they contact us directly. How about the tweaker garbage lots that litter Cherokee that they drive past to do their enforcement and don't do anything about?
Many places have restrictive ordinances and only enforce if their is a direct complaint against the property, not county employees flying overhead with taxpayer money to make those complaints. I believe unless someone is able to stop them it will become the new trend. That spineless bunch of supervisors in Yuba definitely is just waiting to see how this plays out.
The supreme court says that we are only protected from criminal prosecution but Butte County's administrative persecution leads to fines that are way higher than what would happen if you were charged and convicted criminally. You can't even sell your property in this county through owner financing because if the new owners get a fine and don't abate immediately, resulting in a huge fine, all they have to do is walk away from the deposit and the property gets the fine which would then lead back to the lender. That's why Butte County hasn't come back to abate your garden. They are happy coming back in 30 days and sticking you with a $30,000 property lien.
I see you boys are beginning to catch on, slowly but surely.
