Butte County

[furrywall11]

I think it's always been 12 plants in a permitted structure. Has there been a change?

 

[Backyard Farmer]

I use 3 23w cfl in a carport.

 

[Sunfire]

I think it's always been 12 plants in a permitted structure. Has there been a change?

I heard that they enacted a ban when sacramento county did too. However recently I was told they over turned it. Maybe it's back to the old ordinance in shasta? The guy says the neighborhood has all done 99 the last 4 years and no issues.

Was hashing out some details of the union with and friend yesterday. We are coming up with some good ideas. You for sure need a good contract will language that protects the union from idiots wanting to join and then thinking they can still blow it up and piss everyone off. The end goal would be to cooperate with enforcement, make them like us and have them consult us. We need to make sure we don't end up like Colorado in 2016 with cameras in our grow rooms, 30% tax, and Illegal to make even edibles at home!

 

[Urbngroz]

If the limit was 12 plants it would be hard to keep people from going over that. A lot of people are trying to make a living off this industry and 12 plants would just cover most peoples bills for the year, how could they contribute to a union after that?

 

[Sunfire]

Lmao 12 plants of what size? I know a guy that just does 12 but the smallest is 10# and he usually gets up to about 15# plants with stocks like large coffee bean cans! Seeds and sank soil with the right amendments for the win all day kids!

If your only doing 12 and are in a low risk zone, you dont need protection of multiple lawyers. We will have free membership for people who don't need the lawyers protection but want to join and strengthen the movement. Once it gets rolling we can team up with lots of other associations and teams of activists under one banner. The goal is to have enough people and Lawyers to make the politicians not want to fuck with us. I'm ready to get gangster up in here, I'll black out and burn down the rice fields. I'll hire private detectives to find dirt on the politicians and put their asses in jail for a change. I'll take a gram of raw "L" and dump it into the water supply of the local military base!

More realistically though, we need to put the power back in the hands of the people. All the state of Jefferson supporters should rally with us. This is about more than just growing herb. This is about civil liberties abound fighting a corrupt oppressive government. America Is going down fast. The current federal banking system that runs off of debt, enslaving us all in debt and fake interest made on fake money for unjustified loans has got to come to an end. I've thought as a little kid that herb could be the thing that changes the world. Well maybe it will unite the entire west coast and we can do a lot more than just grow some plants!

 

[MrBelvedere]

I heard that they enacted a ban when sacramento county did too. However recently I was told they over turned it. Maybe it's back to the old ordinance in shasta? The guy says the neighborhood has all done 99 the last 4 years and no issues.

Was hashing out some details of the union with and friend yesterday. We are coming up with some good ideas. You for sure need a good contract will language that protects the union from idiots wanting to join and then thinking they can still blow it up and piss everyone off. The end goal would be to cooperate with enforcement, make them like us and have them consult us. We need to make sure we don't end up like Colorado in 2016 with cameras in our grow rooms, 30% tax, and Illegal to make even edibles at home!

There will never be a Union of cannabis growers who pays dues to be in your Union or any grower union. You really don't know what you're talking about sorry. I can imagine the lawyers laughing hysterically every time they get a check from you- to add additional language to the text to limit membership to your union. Beyond clueless sorry...

 

[furrywall11]

belvedere, your comments aren't constructive. worse, someone might actually believe the bs you're spewing. It will be hard to get cannabis growers to associate in such a way as to be similar to a "union" but, certainly not impossible. and, considering a lot of us are very creative, have a ton of discretionary income and, feel like our backs are to the wall here....there are a lot of possibilities.
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Moving on. The California county grow limits are here: http://www.canorml.org/medical-marijuana/local-growing-limits-in-california#ShastaCty ------- as of very recently, 12 plants is all that is allowed..So, if you had a tall enough greenhouse and were a very skilled grower you could actually grow 120-150 lbs per year and still be in compliance. The situation is the same in Yuba County. Lets hope it doesn't come to that...

 

[MrBelvedere]

Here is some constructive criticism. Start using the word "coalition" instead of "union". Don't charge people to join the coalition. Find activists lawyers who will work pro bono to assist the cause. Ideas of unions are laughable at best and make the movement look like it is being led by young inexperienced people who do not understand Unions at all. You need to have a clear written plan, a website, a Tv/radio/Internet media campaign, a schedule to convene and talk issues and strategy.

Consult with proven leaders in the movement and ask them for advice on how to remove the outdoor plant laws. Call NORML, not ACLU. Network with leaders. If you find a pro bono lawyer ask him to work with ACLU so the cause has a clear eloquent voice backed by legitimate well known change makers. Write eloquent pieces to local newspapers. Ask local TV and radio to attend protests and conduct them professionally. Explain to business leaders how these new rules will degrade the economy and affect their bottom line. If you get the general business sectors involved they will help facilitate change in order to keep their communities economically vibrant. The local politicians are very connected to legitimate businesses. I greatly admire SunFires passion and end goal is, and am seriously trying to guide him to get professional and form a local movement that has a chance of actually working. The end goal is to roll back these local ordinances and it will take a massive massive effort to make that happen. Even if the effort fails, the coalition can stay strong and continue on the 2016 state initiative. At the current pace the outdoor season will be over before any change happens.

Anyways tons of marijuana is going to be grown in Butte, the cops cannot shoot all the fish in the barrel. Good Luck. If enough people overgrow, plant seeds everywhere, they will have less chance of getting much of it. Be creative.... Good Luck....

Many guerrilla growers with good hidden spots will hope the ban stands in effect and are going to do great this season because everybody else is too scared to get chopped. So don't expect a coalition of all growers. Bigger growers will overgrow cause that's what they always and they are completely fearless from years of experience. They will have most of the supply, so many have no intention to join a coalition or to even support the 2016 initiative. Good luck to all- just grow it everwhere! Fuck the Police, DEA, FBI, and polititions.

 

[Sunfire]

There will never be a Union of cannabis growers who pays dues to be in your Union or any grower union. You really don't know what you're talking about sorry. I can imagine the lawyers laughing hysterically every time they get a check from you- to add additional language to the text to limit membership to your union. Beyond clueless sorry...

Wow then I know about 20 plus people right now that are clearly a figment of my imagination! INCLUDING THE ENTIRE YUBAPATIENTSCOALITION.COM BOARD MEMBERS WHO TALKED ABOUT FORMING A UNION AT THE LAST MEETING, YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!! THEY ARE ARE COURT SEASONED, PROFESSIONALS IN THEIR FIELDS, OLDER, AND INTELLIGENT!!! Rick Fenton has been doing initiatives and voting statistics and analysis since 1978, you fucking retard!

Really, a lawyer, laughing at me giving him money??? What fucking planet do you live on????

Your so fucking clueless! All unions have language that keeps the idiots from dragging down everyone else. Lets take the long shoreman for instance, who recently had a strike. If a member was not in compliance with the union agreed safety standards, and hurt themselves, the union wouldn't cover their medical expensives. You havnt thought about this at all!!!! Why would we allow members to recklessly blow it the fuck up and repeatedly get enforcement on their asses and burn all our lawyer money???? Why would we allow a member to constantly piss off neighbors and get us all bad rep???

Unlike you I have been discussing this with many intelligent people for about a month now.

 

[Sunfire]

Here is some constructive criticism. Start using the word "coalition" instead of "union". Don't charge people to join the coalition. Find activists lawyers who will work pro bono to assist the cause. Ideas of unions are laughable at best and make the movement look like it is being led by young inexperienced people who do not understand Unions at all. You need to have a clear written plan, a website, a Tv/radio/Internet media campaign, a schedule to convene and talk issues and strategy.

we already have a yuba "coalition" AND a yuba "association", once again you have no idea wtf your talking about! You fucking idiot, we already have a pro bono lawyer. And a paid lawyer! Young inexperienced people? Tell that to the board ypc board members like Brooke, rick, eric, and sam. Tell that to the battle hardened Israeli crew I know, who are extremely intelligent. Tell that to my neighbor who toured Iraq at officer level, your so fucking dumb to make these assumptions! They are not young at all, one again talking out your ass! Clearly their must be social out reach, but once again you havnt thought it through! We need to gain strength under ground first so the government doesn't nip us in the bud. Once we can unite butte, nevada, and yuba in a tricounty union, then we go mass media and public.
Consult with proven leaders in the movement and ask them for advice on how to remove the outdoor plant laws. Call NORML, not ACLU. Network with leaders.and again...you have no fucken clue. We have had NORML and ASA leaders at our meetings, as well as Hezekiah from emerald triangle growers association, and the leaders of the human rights association in butte, as well as others from sacramento county and El Dorado county. The aclu is powerful you fool! However they seem to not want to get involved. If you find a pro bono lawyer ask him to work with ACLU so the cause has a clear eloquent voice backed by legitimate well known change makers.yes our paid lawyer, not the pro bono one, has been in contact with the aclu Write eloquent pieces to local newspapers. Ask local TV and radio to attend protests and conduct them professionally. you obviously don't read the appeal democrat or watch local yuba news, it's been done multiple times already!!!Explain to business leaders how these new rules will degrade the economy and affect their bottom line. If you get the general business sectors involved they will help facilitate change in order to keep their communities economically vibrant. I personally made and printed a thousand colored fliers and handed them out to people to post up andgive to people including local business. We all have gotten as much local business on board as we can and the BOS doesnt give a shit. You don't fucking understand how hard we have been fighting!!!The local politicians are very connected to legitimate businesses.th e are more connected to big business lobbyists that are lining their pockets and promising them a piece of the pie In 2016 if they get to control everythi nv and snuff us out and tax it super high! I greatly admire SunFires passion and end goal is, and am seriously trying to guide him to get professional and form a local movement that has a chance of actually working.piss the fuck off!!! YOU guide ME? Holy shot you want to guide the yuba growers association and the yuba patients coalition too? I know the all their board members and heads personally. I'll give you their numbers! Yes you idiot! Professional help we are already getting plenty of and all signs lead to...guess what...we need more MONEY, more UNIFICATION (Hmmm I wonder what the point of a "union" is ?) And more LAWYERS putting in hours studying case laws and presenting arguments with good legal standing The end goal is to roll back these local ordinances and it will take a massive massive effort to make that happen. Even if the effort fails, the coalition can stay strong and continue on the 2016 state initiative. At the current pace the outdoor season will be over before any change happens. yes, a massive effort, let's get working on it now! Hello? Anyone In there? The coalition we already have is limited by their monetary resources and members, same as the association we already have. Are you not following the news?!?! People are getting rolled up in butte and yuba already you fucken idiot!!!

Anyways tons of marijuana is going to be grown in Butte, the cops cannot shoot all the fish in the barrel. Good Luck. If enough people overgrow, plant seeds everywhere, they will have less chance of getting much of it. Be creative.... Good Luck....this just shows how small of a "fish" you are. Prices are going up already, which is what the big corporations want to do in preperation for 2016, its simple supply and demand. Its the equivalent to a stock market pump and dump tactic. They want to drive up the demand so they can breaknout their supply with minimal competition.! it's like summertime prices right now. Supply Is at a crazy never before seen low for this time of year. Of all the people I know, only 3 are going ahead with their light dep. The "show of fource" fear tactics are working, especially amongst those with children.

Many guerrilla growers with good hidden spots will hope the ban stands in effect and are going to do great this season because everybody else is too scared to get chopped. So don't expect a coalition of all growers. Bigger growers will overgrow cause that's what they always and they are completely fearless from years of experience. They will have most of the supply, so many have no intention to join a coalition or to even support the 2016 initiative. Good luck to all- just grow it everwhere! Fuck the Police, DEA, FBI, and polititions.

you are so poorly networked! I'm you had any connections up in mendo and Humboldt where all the "big growers" are, you'd know enforcement up there is crazy, people have been getting chopped left and right for a few years now. The politicians and lobbyists started In the emerald triangle because that where the most production is. And are now spreading outwards. You even been flown super hard but never been visited or contacted In the last 5 years? That's because they have been taking inventory and researching the market they wish to control.the reason it didn't go legal in 2014 was because they weren't ready yet to establish the infrastructure to control the market. I know of a family In mendo, that was super huge, seven properties all 99 full sun plus 99 hidden indicas in the shade, that has officially quite because they ahve suffered severe recent losses from enforcement. On top of that, you ever hear stories of an chopper landing, cutting their plants, and taking off bit then the person never heard back from any enforcement or a word of any kind? I have heard that story many times! Think out what's going on when that happens!

so pretty much, you have no clue about what's going on. You say you want to guide me but all your advice is either extremely poor and under-thought, or has already been done, which you arnt aware of, cause you don't fucken know and are not in the loop at all!!! Stfu and sit down until your ready to call eric solerno at the ypc and sam mconnell at the ycga, and tell them they are young and inexperienced and how you know so much better because you clearly more political and law inclined then they are with their years of experience on this exact topic. Then come talk to me and all my friends and tell them the same, I don't think the Israelis would let you leave the room if you talked to them like you just now tried to me.

 

[MrBelvedere]

Lol ok good luck with collecting your union dues... smh

 

[MrBelvedere]

we need more MONEY

What will the Israelis do to you if you fail to raise more money? Will they let you leave the room? Why do you sound frantic, scared, and broke?


Labor Union Laws
John Mahoney, Fed. Lawyer

In 1935, Congress passed the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA) to “encourage a healthy relationship between private-sector workers and their employers” [ref]. Prior to the NLRA, employers were not required by law to recognize a union or to bargain in good faith. By establishing employees’ basic rights to join unions and engage in collective bargaining, Congress hoped to reduce work stoppages, strikes and other conflicts between labor and management that had all too often resulted in violence. The act also created the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) as the organization to enforce the NLRA.

The NLRA accomplished three significant objectives:

-Allowed workers to have elections to decide if they want to be represented
Established laws protecting employees from discrimination based on union- or group-related activity

-Created the NLRB as an administrative organization to enforce the law

Perhaps most importantly, the NLRA allowed unions to represent employees under the law. The act’s text states that it covers employees whose employers are involved in interstate commerce,but this is a broad definition, one that is easily applied. The act also outlined the basic rights for workers, something many had been lobbying about for decades. In addition to the right to union representation and participation, the NLRA allowed employees to engage in collective bargaining and protected concerted activities -- with or without a union -- that attempt to improve working conditions. The NLRA also granted employees the right to choose not not to take part in any of those activities, hopefully preventing unions or employers from exerting undue pressure on employees.

Some workers are specifically excluded from the protections of the NLRA:

Agricultural laborers
Domestic service workers
People employed by a parent or spouse
Independent contractors
Supervisors
Railroad and airline employees
Federal, state and local government employees
Employees of any entity that does not fit the NLRA’s definition of an employer
Confidential employees

I am looking out for people who could get suckered into donating money to forming a Labor Union that WILL NEVER HAPPEN. You're trying to raise "MORE MONEY" to form a Labor Union, and you have no understanding what a Labor Union is... At all. Are you the same dude who was the brainchild for the Trimmers Union? You're paying a lawyer $300 an hour to call the ACLU case worker and get sent straight to voicemail? Sad...

 

[Sunfire]

Dude why do you think you know everything that's going on??? Seriously are you in contact with our lawyers????

We didn't pay him to contact the aclu, they contacted us after enough yuba county growers called them ad complained. You just assume all this stuff that is the farthest from the truth and you think you know everything when in fact you know nothing of what we have been doing. And no we arnt paying him 300 an hour. Once again you have no idea what your talking about, do you realize how dumb you sound. You don't even know our lawyers names I bet, so how do you know their business???

Everything you just sited is also invalid because that's a labor union. We won't be forming a labor union, those types of unions are called vertical unions, we will be forming what's known as a horizontal union and it will be a PRIVATE union. Do you understand??? You claim to know sooo much but you don't even know that there's different types of unions and a labor union is just one type. Your arguments arguments are so invalid it's pathetic.

The Israelis will simply talk to more people to gain more strength, they respect me me and themselves. Once again you are taking things out of context. I clearly said that in the context of you saying we are all young and inexperienced. So that comment is also clearly invalid.

World of difference between scared and frantic, versus pissed off by some idiot who thinks he knows everything and clearly has no idea of our actions involved with our fight. Your right, I'm so broke, I cant afford to be thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours invested into the yuba battle. I made up all those names and the coalition and association doesn't even exist, I forgot you know everything so I'll just stop trying, you nailed it alright.

 

[Sunfire]

So tell me belvedere, what have you been doing to further the movement besides sitting on your ass???

Here's what we've been doing...
http://www.appeal-democrat.com/news...cle_dc350b2a-e7ea-11e4-a242-8bf3acf1fda2.html

as you can see, the local largest paper has had the coalition. In it many times. One time on the front page. So Stfu you don't know what your talking about!

The important part to notice are the statewide initiatives being filed. So vote no on the anti herb initiatives in the article a linked earlier, and vote yes (sign your name on) for the pro herb initiatives

 

[Yes4Prop215]

Can you copy paste that article..AD is always asking for money to view the full text. Congrats on what's going on in Yuba, wish Butte would get its shit together and put up a fight like that, but seems our county is too full of drunk tweak growrrs who don't care about this fight.

 

[Sunfire]

Tuesday, April 21, 2015 12:04 am

Eric Vodden/Appeal-Democrat

Yuba Patients Coalition has followed through on its intent to challenge Yuba County's new marijuana cultivation ordinance in the state Supreme Court.

San Francisco-based attorney Joe Elford has filed a writ of mandate and prohibition with the Supreme Court against the ordinance. Elford represents Yuba Patients Coalition and six individuals in the county.

The action, filed late Friday afternoon, seeks a court order forcing county election officials to accept petitions for a voter referendum and to halt enforcement of the new law. The Supreme Court has 90 days to act on the filing.

The court could summarily deny the petition as was done when a similar writ was filed with the Sacramento-based 3rd District Court of Appeal. It could also issue an alternative writ that would require a response from the county or it could refer it to the appellate court to order a response, Elford said.

The filing is the latest development in a series of legal challenges to Yuba County's marijuana cultivation ordinance that bans outdoor growing. Still pending in Yuba County Superior Court is the initial suit seeking a ruling that the new ordinance is unconstitutional, along with a permanent injunction.

No court date has yet been set on that action.

Along with the Yuba Patients Coalition, individuals Woodrow George Powers, Patty Mowery, Theresa Morris, George Benson, Norma Hutchins and Eric Salerno are listed as plaintiffs in the Supreme Court filing.

Separately, 11 statewide medical marijuana proponents have filed paperwork with the state seeking a statewide constitutional amendment to go before voters. Proponents submitting the paperwork include Salerno, Rick Fenton of Olivehurst and Kathie Thelen, a candidate last year for Yuba County supervisor.

The proposed Compassionate and Sensible Access Act would ban any state or local agency from adopting a law that "burdens in any way the ability of doctors to recommend cannabis for medicinal and/or therapeutic purposes ..." It would also prohibit passage of any laws "which impedes a patients ability to obtain or cultivate cannabis..."

According the state Secretary of State's website it would require 585,407 statewide signatures to place a constitutional amendment initiative on the November 2016 ballot


There's a meeting tonight at 6pm at the 7 mile house. Maybe some of yuba butte folks can show up, talk with eric, and collaborate.

We are also having a peaceful sidewalk protest next Wednesday 10am- 3 pm in marysville. Let me know and I'll give you the meet up address

 

[Yes4Prop215]

the anonymous complaint shit is 100% made up and the butte county sheriff are using it as cause to go around and check everyone. they hit several properties in our area this afternoon, and every single one they claimed was a neighbor complaint. however most of these properties are far away from each other and i highly highly doubt one person is calling in complaints on the entire hillside. MOST OF THESE PROPERTIES DIDNT EVEN HAVE GROWS!!!! they were still snooping around and asking hella questions, checking license plates running ID checks…this shit is such a fuckin violation of the 4th amendment i dont even know where to begin. measure A supporters NEED TO BE SUBJECTED TO THIS.

shit is fucking scary and downright illegal. sun fire can you ask your lawyer about the legalities of cops using anonymous complaints that are made up?? can we sue these cocksuckers if we find out their complaints were not real???

they came to a small trailer today where we were smoking weed, but no grow, they wanted to search to trailer but we refused. they checked the backyard which has no sign of any grow, however they claimed smelled weed and would have enough for a warrant to check the trailer later. entry was still denied so now we sit back and see if they come back to check the trailer (which is clean)….wondering if i can sue them for this.


shit is hot as fuck in butte county, this county is hopeless, yuba seems to have their shit together way better than butte.

 

[furrywall11]

Crazy....Did they hop your gate or you don't have one?

I'm not a law professor but I know you can sue for anything. You should get a lawyer and see if you could win. In Yuba county it's coming to light that a lot of our BOS are dirty... I wouldn't put it past the sheriff to lie about getting a neighbor complaint. I'm pretty sure the protocol is they just say "neighbor complaint" on everything...

 

[Sunfire]

Well because of the freedom of information act, you should be able to ask for the complaints because legally they must keep them on file. Last year in Nevada county the sherriff claimed to have hundreds of complaints filed. The asa asked them to see the filed complaints and the sherriff couldn't produce a single one.

The reason you guys are being fucked with so hard is because you have offered no resistance and enforcement is running wild with their new found egocentric authority.

I talked with eric and other board members last night about the union and they thought it was a great idea. Furthermore they are starting "yep". Yuba education program which is non profit so they can except large anonymous donations and can also fund projects like initiatives and lawyer fees. They can also donate to out union...hmmm, sounds good.

I told eric I was trying to tell you guys to organize. He said he knew people in butte that you all can rally behind. It will take hundreds of ours of work and tens of thousands of dollars. Contact eric. Yubapatientscoalition.org. tell him your story and he can guide you to the right people to rally behind and hopefully unite with the ycga, ypc, yep, and the soon to be founded union. I'm trying to talk to people in Nevada county to do the same. I just heard from placer county that their BOS is voting on a complete ban as well on may 5th.

I can't contact the paid lawyer, Joe elford. I can contact the pro bono lawyer but he's a business lawyer that just down for the cause and is more or less acting as a legal council mediator between Joe and us common folk.

The main issue with the anonymous complaints is that you have a constitutional right to face your accuser. That fight will probably have to go to atleast the appellette court and most likely the supreme court and will cost you all atleast 20k. You can also nail them by asking for a court subpoena to produce these complaints. The complaints will have to have a legal residents name attached to them that lives within a reasonable distance from the property that as complained about.

These processes are long and enduring and can burn people out. It's a long haul kind of thing and you will not get any immediate gratitude.

If this happened here, eric and the pac board members and the lawyers would be on site in a matter of hours. They won't do that here because they know it would help our campaign and give our lawyers more shit to add to the pot. They are violating your patient rights as well as your civil rights. The smell of your medicine is not enough to get a warrant and you could clearly sue them. The problem is you guys have no political backing. It's taken us 2 months to get where we are now. You guys need to hop in it asap!!!!! I have the card of a good butte county marijuana lawyer in my wallet. I'll post her info later as I don't have my wallet on me atm.

hopefully what they are doing is enough to piss off you, your neighbors, and your friends, enough to do something!!! You must give up atleast 25% of your life and atleast a few thousand dollars each to make a difference.

 

[Sunfire]

Ok so it turns out she isn't a butte local. A guy I know from butte gave me her card and said she helped him alot when he caught a case.

Her name is Kali S. Grech. Lmao a marijuana lawyer name kali? Fuck yeah!

She is with pier 5 law offices. I didn't even realize this until now, I have heard a lot about pier 5, they are pit bulls for sure! They are out of San francisco.

Our paid lawyer as you can see from the article I linked, is Joe elford. He used to be head council for sacramento norml. He has a lot of experience. He's working on the clear lake County case right now as well. I don't know if it would be good or bad if you guys tried to bring him onto your fight as well.

The fact that butte had a refferandum and lost puts that county in a fucked position. You can fight this battle on two fronts, criminal and civil.

The criminal route means someone has to put their neck on the line and either let the enforcement chop their plants or fine them. Pretty much the county has to make you a criminal. I'm not up to par on butte ordinance. Is their a plant number stated? If so then the provision of sb420 that clearly states a qualified physician can recommend a patient more than the state minimum, and the people vs kelly, should get you an injunction on that but that's criminal law. Local court will give you a summary denial and so will appellette probably so you'll have to spend about 20k to get it to the Supreme court. Once again though the refferandum thing sucks because I'm pretty sure it's written that win or lose, for either side, once it's put to vote it can not be challenged again for 2 years. Your battle will get messy and expensive I fear.

On the civil front, the refferandum thing is going to now be hard to get around. The "stay in the box" thing is a direct violation of the American disability act. Find someone in a wheel chair or who can't access a box style garden like that to sign onto that lawsuit.

The anonymous call in thing is bullshit and is in direct violation of the American constitution. Plus the freedom of information act should let you atleast access the filed complaints however the confidentiality clause might protect the plaintiff's name but that should atleast let you see a complaint was filed for.your property. If they can't produce that evidence then they are in big trouble. If you tie this into the criminal case you can tack on an urgency clause to your summary that should give the county attorney less time to falsify documents of the fake complaint.

I have an upcoming private meeting with one of the ypc board members. I will ask his guidance on the anonymous complaints thing. I'm down to personally donate all that would be needed to fund that lawsuit here in yuba and you guys should be able to copy and paste our lawsuit and maybe even file it with the same lawyer. However this will require a martyr to step forth and claim the complaint was fake, unfortunately. You could stage it however. Find a property, make it a minimal infraction as to not get the owner in too much trouble. And call it in yourself with all fake info. That's super dirty but from what I'm reading butte enforcement is on a lower level or moral and civil integrity.

The shakedown thing in regards to the property inspection is clearly a civil rights infraction as well. Even if they had an inspection warrant, it's not a search and seizure warrant. However it gets grey with the anonymous tip thing, they should have to specify whether it's an outdoor grow or indoor. You guys should really attack that and state how the anonymous tip thing violates civil rights because it's so vague. There's less invasive ways to see if there's an indoor grow, just check the power bill records. If the complaint was for an outdoor grow then it's only an inspection warrant of code enforcement to inspect the code infraction. It's not a search and seizure warrant and they have no right to search the property outside the code infraction, or your home, or your vehicle which is legally and extension of your home.

I'm not a lawyer, I'm sure if you tell your story of what's going on to a proper civil lawyer, and a proper marijuana lawyer, they might come up with all sorts of ideas!

The hardest part is organizing the people, and getting legitimate funds together to fight the battle. Start a non profit immediately that can feed your pac (political action committee). That is the best way to move anonymous donations into the pockets of the lawyers.

You must band together and fight now. I printed a thousand flyers that took me and two other people a day to make, choosing the right language and topics to hit. We spread those throughout the county and I was going back to local bulletin boards at stores and businesses and replacing them daily as the opposition was tearing them down. Form a non profit and a pac, asap! Get a good lawyer or two involved. Preferably one civil and one marijuana. Talk to everyone! Every dready, every person wearing any kind of herb related apparel, even straight randoms, talk to them at the grocery line, at the gas station, everywhere you go! You must make this fight your life!

Male your flyers a point by point arguement that people can use to talk to proponents AND opponents. Use language that is not offensive to either side. I can post one up here of the one I made. Discuss land values, civil rights, patients rights, local businesses suffering, and so forth.

Please ask me any questions you want, I've already been getting lots of PM's from this thread of people in butte, yuba, and just got one from nevada county. I have no idea why our yuba thread on this forum has been dead for weeks though...? I can try to ask our leaders how to help and who they know in your area.

As I said before though contact eric, he told me he knows people in butte you guys can rally behind but they need money and volunteers, lots of both. I know Tom with the human rights association in butte would be a good start, I'm pretty sure that's the name of his association...? Start reaching out to everyone you can!

The california cannabis coalition is on our side, contact them! Maybe even contact the california cannabis industry association as well. Contact norml and ask for advice. Doesn't butte have a ASA chapter? If not contact the sacramento ASA.