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Butane Residue Test Results

Gray Wolf

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Second distillation...

Thats NOT WATER in there! And you can see a yellow residue all around the edge. Its all baked on the collection pot....

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What temperature are you running your recovery pot during distillation bro?

The stuff that looks like water, could easily be pentane, which boils around 100F at atmospheric pressure.

It also makes a nice extraction all by itself, but is harder to purge than butane, so we take ours out.

We ran a tank of n-Butane from Ecogreens original shipment and a tank of n-Butane, Iso butane, and Propane from their following one.

The first we had analyzed by a third party forensic lab, but not the last group, having no reason to suspect the contents are changing significantly, only the levels present.

We removed mystery oil from all of it before using it, and ran the butane to test new equipment, usually with a dozen or so runs without columns, to test for fit and function.

We conduct a final cleaning before shipping, so we observed what was deposited in subsequent passes, and we observed very light pentane deposits, and nothing else of concern.

The stuff that was deposited the first run, was stiff and hard to remove, even with hot denatured alcohol, and was light yellow in color.
 

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^^Sorry if you've answered this already but what are you using right now for runs?

If this was addressed to me, I use anything I have around that made the top of my Best to Worst Canned Butane list (see the link in my Signature below.)

Notice I interjected a note in my list where I think the 'bar' should be, "I suggest these ^^^ and avoid those below."

As to EcoGreen, thanks for promoting the message their refrigeration grade gasses should not be used without further distillation/filtering. The ability to use these so-so sources of butane after a clean up in a CLS should be very valuable info for the worldwide community in the future as legalization moves forward, awesome job gentlemen! :))
 

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If this was addressed to me, I use anything I have around that made the top of my Best to Worst Canned Butane list (see the link in my Signature below.)

Notice I interjected a note in my list where I think the 'bar' should be, "I suggest these ^^^ and avoid those below."

As to EcoGreen, thanks for promoting the message their refrigeration grade gasses should not be used without further distillation/filtering. The ability to use these so-so sources of butane after a clean up in a CLS should be very valuable info for the worldwide community in the future as legalization moves forward, awesome job gentlemen! :))


SKYHIGHLER.
I just want to personally thank you for your hard work and testing as much as you do, I am sure many other people appreciate it as much as I do. That being said, I would like to make a suggestion if you do not mind. I see a number of your tests in the "Best" section have notations behind them stating that they have a bad odor or colored residue, etc and that you suggest to either further distill or NOT to use. If you think that they should not be used...why are they on the "Best" list? Maybe you should move them to the top of the"Worst" list?

Even though the residual levels are low, you suggest to NOT use them. Not trying to nit pick....but any foul smell or mystery oil should automatically put them on the "Worst" list. This is just my opinion and I am truly appreciative of the time and energy you have spent doing all of the tests.

I personally use Lucienne or Zippo and only make personal shatter, so I want to use the best out there...money is not an issue, but my health is. I want the cleanest butane out there and will pay extra for it. I do not want to smoke any mystery oil or foul smelling butane...even if it is supposedly low on your residue tests. Just my 2 cents...thanks again!
 

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SKYHIGHLER.
I just want to personally thank you for your hard work and testing as much as you do, I am sure many other people appreciate it as much as I do. That being said, I would like to make a suggestion if you do not mind. I see a number of your tests in the "Best" section have notations behind them stating that they have a bad odor or colored residue, etc and that you suggest to either further distill or NOT to use. If you think that they should not be used...why are they on the "Best" list? Maybe you should move them to the top of the"Worst" list?

Even though the residual levels are low, you suggest to NOT use them. Not trying to nit pick....but any foul smell or mystery oil should automatically put them on the "Worst" list. This is just my opinion and I am truly appreciative of the time and energy you have spent doing all of the tests.

I personally use Lucienne or Zippo and only make personal shatter, so I want to use the best out there...money is not an issue, but my health is. I want the cleanest butane out there and will pay extra for it. I do not want to smoke any mystery oil or foul smelling butane...even if it is supposedly low on your residue tests. Just my 2 cents...thanks again!

The Best to Worst list came about because I was repeatedly asked to rank the raw data list. My test is primarily to test for amount of non-volatile residue (Mystery Oil,) and therefore that's the way I rank them. That some of them have been disqualified due to the perceived way they smell is just the way it is, you caught the notes, and I assume anyone seriously looking at the list will too...

I'll be gracious and accept the thank you, but if you knew the details of the way this all came about it's enough to make me believe you should be thanking a much higher power.


If money is no object I suggest you try the 400ml cans of Lotus.
 
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BS call:


"Item Description
Fasfil butane is a 5x refined butane that is produced and manufactured in England. If you are looking for top performing butane at a very reasonable price then Fasfil is what you are looking for. In side by side comparisons to quanitfy the amount of "Mystery Oil" contained, the impurity level of Fasfil is VERY LOW, if not better than most of the competition. Imported through California and distributed widely it is a quality alternative to just about any butane on the market today.

Please note : Fasfill is also produced in Korea. We stock the product that is sourced from their factory in England
FasFil Large Premium Butane 12 Can Pack
Quintuple Refined
Made in England
300ml / 10fl oz."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281533640805?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Fasfil 5X had 0.019g of residue (two cans shot to the same test bag, this is the result divided by two)

Fasfil 5X, UK, 300ml can, reads on the bottom "DOM 20.08.14 06:51"


That's as much residue as Power 5X... :laughing:
 

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Another relatively clean product from Ignitus!

Ignitus 11X had 0.006g of residue

Ignitus 11X, China, 300ml, no date of manufacture

Check out my Signature link below for an ordered list of my test results to date.
 

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Thanks Skyhighler! HoW much per can do u pay for Lotus? Never seen it in store? I see it is about $75 deliver for 12 pack from a brief search. Thanks
 

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Thanks Skyhighler! HoW much per can do u pay for Lotus? Never seen it in store? I see it is about $75 deliver for 12 pack from a brief search. Thanks

The availability and price you're seeing is the same I've seen since I tested it. I bought a few cans, tested it, and the left over is being saved for some special nuggs to come along. It's not that it's vastly superior or anything, just a lot of clean butane in a nice can, has a smooth all around 'feel' to the product, like I said just a personal preference after handling so many different brands, most of them obviously manufactured as cheaply as possible.
 
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I'll be testing this BHO 7X and some Super 5X later today or tomorrow, check out the "710 Certified" award... :tiphat: I'm so impressed! :moon: :biggrin:
 

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krunchbubble

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Spending the day triple distilling 100+# of solvent...

EVERY SINGLE person who runs Ecogreen Gas, should at the minimum distill twice...
 

TickleMyBalls

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Sky, new brand for you to test. Distributed through MI, "puff" brand. Through puff e-cigs. Labeled 99.9% pure. Lol. Pure what, who knows? Can't even find msds on it yet.
 

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Super 5X had 0.033g of residue

Super 5X, Korea, 300ml can, reads on the bottom "130626"


BHO 7X had 0.004g of residue

BHO 7X, Korea, 320ml can, reads on the bottom "130903"


The BHO 7X had some strong smelling residue, not a top choice imo even if it is "710 Certified." ;-)
 

krunchbubble

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Spending the day triple distilling 100+# of solvent...

EVERY SINGLE person who runs Ecogreen Gas, should at the minimum distill twice...



Still at it! About 10 minutes left! Went through 40lbs of dry ice...

May even do a run tonight still....
 

JColtrane

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Still at it! About 10 minutes left! Went through 40lbs of dry ice...

May even do a run tonight still....

Wow, Eco greens really gotcha working .... you should send them a bill for the hours you should have been extracting. In talks w/ praxair to become a distributor (praxair wants out of the butane business) ... if that happens, I'd love your business. Been using praxair gas for the past three years, and have NEVER had a problem :)
 

ple1ades

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Wow, Eco greens really gotcha working .... you should send them a bill for the hours you should have been extracting. In talks w/ praxair to become a distributor (praxair wants out of the butane business) ... if that happens, I'd love your business. Been using praxair gas for the past three years, and have NEVER had a problem :)

I would go through you .
 

stoney917

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Was thinkin what bout packing a tube with activated charcoal n distill through there to collect all the nasties... opinions anyone????
 

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Do charcoal and already ran material. I dont know if the charcoal really does anything but it cant hurt. The pre ran material returns a couple more % and that oil helps trap all the shit you don't want, instead of relying on temperature alone. I'll distill once without material/charcoal, then distill the second time with material and charcoal as a filter. If i do a third distill nothing is left in the pot, nice and clean, 2 distills and its clean as it can be. That and every time you run after that, it will get cleaner and cleaner. Except that damn moisture sometimes....
 

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BHO 5X had 0.006g of residue

BHO 5X, Korea, 320ml can, reads on the bottom "130902"

Not much residue and it was only very lightly tinted yellow, but it's smell was strong.


Turbo 9X had 0.025g of residue

Turbo 9X, Korea, 320ml can, reads on the bottom "140530"

Lot of residue, but it was clear and didn't smell too bad.


Superblu 9X and Super 7X are on their way to me...

Will one of you Mounties I gave my name and address out to actually get around to sending me a can of London?? ;-)
 
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