Bush Weed Seeds

[TheDarkStorm]

Wen thai's call weed budda eg golden budda ther not referring to the buddha but the weed buds..eg golden budda would translate to golden bud an not the golden enlightened one.

 

[robotwithdreams]

Quick pic update

How are these coming along?

 

[Donald Mallard]

Wen thai's call weed budda eg golden budda ther not referring to the buddha but the weed buds..eg golden budda would translate to golden bud an not the golden enlightened one.

there is a fair chance they didnt tend to call their weed buddha ,,

it might have been a selling terminology to westerners , but i doubt anything else ,

its kuncha , also gunja , k and g seem to come together as one so its hard to distinguish for us whether its a k or a g ,


there is little chance thais were talking to other thais and calling it buddha weed ,, buddha sticks , golden buddha ....

its just something i doubt they would do , they have huge respect for buddha and would not associate his name with gunja as far as i know ...
the only reference to golden buddha i remember was a 5 tonne statue made of solid gold ...

 

[ngakpa]

Wen thai's call weed budda eg golden budda ther not referring to the buddha but the weed buds..eg golden budda would translate to golden bud an not the golden enlightened one.

this is total nonsense...

yes, Thais would never call ganja after the Buddha

This is a brand name used by Westerners (I first heard it used by an Aussie friend years ago)

Cannabis has absolutely no role whatsoever in Thai Buddhism, not in Theravada, and not even in the esoteric forms that involve magic and Tantra-type practices, which used to be common in the pre-colonial era

(not talking about fake pseudo-Tantra taught in workshops fwiw)

flower in Thai is "dok mai" but fwiw the name I heard used for buds by Thai and Lao farmers is "owl heads"

anyway --- bud is an English word ffs, and Buddha in Thai is Phra Putta Jao, so it sounds nothing like that

 

[ngakpa]

im doubting too much of that was being grown by 1988 since heavy duty laws came into play in 1980 which spelt the end of the thai cannabis era ,
the punishments for growing were not mild like they are in our country ,
im aware some "thai" was still reaching our shores by the mid 80s , but i cant say it came from thailand specifically , just that it was called thai ...

hi, sorry but I know folks from Central Laos, directly opposite Nakhon Phanom, and I've spoken to them about what it was like in Laos then

there was growing everywhere, even right in the middle of Thakhek

I don't think prohibition crackdowns in Thailand had any impact on the landraces in Laos in the '80s

the other point to note is that northern Isan (Thailand) is ethnically Lao, and cultivation has always occurred on both sides of the river there

 

[ngakpa]

very few people grow herb there because thais have a rep for spreading rumours etc like wild fire ,,

some is grown , but very little , nothing much that could be regarded as commercial crops ...

hi, yes, more or less, though there is still some commercial production in inner Isan, plus on the islands etc.

and people do sow big crops within the jungle in Thailand sometimes - you know because you hear about them getting busted

people forget there's also a lot of space in the farmland of central Thailand - I knew a Thai rice farmer whose family were police and he would grow a healthy crop each season in Chonburi, only about an hour from Bangkok - and so would many of his mates

 

[ngakpa]

its kuncha , also gunja , k and g seem to come together as one so its hard to distinguish for us whether its a k or a g ,

hi - real way to say it is "saa"

that's what it's called by Lao folks in Isan and Laos

2p, also - best time to be there if you want the good stuff is Jan at the earliest through to May... it comes down around Feb to April

btw, the "owl heads" name is in Vera Rubin's book and I hear Lao farmers in Khammouane call it that totally independently

here are some photos from this year, already posted elsewhere but anyway:

Southern Laos, just south of 17N, mid-Feb, 2020


Northern Lao village plant, June


Central Laos, Bolikhamsai, Feb harvest seed

 

[Donald Mallard]

yea i saw those laos buds ,
made me want to go there as soon as im able ,, 5555 ,


thanks for sharing those man ,
hopefully i have a spare 3 months up my sleeve in the near future ,
theres a lot of ground to cover ,
and a lot of som tum and coconut ice cream needs to be eaten .. lol ...

 

[harvestreaper]

this is total nonsense...

yes, Thais would never call ganja after the Buddha

This is a brand name used by Westerners (I first heard it used by an Aussie friend years ago)

Cannabis has absolutely no role whatsoever in Thai Buddhism, not in Theravada, and not even in the esoteric forms that involve magic and Tantra-type practices, which used to be common in the pre-colonial era

(not talking about fake pseudo-Tantra taught in workshops fwiw)

flower in Thai is "dok mai" but fwiw the name I heard used for buds by Thai and Lao farmers is "owl heads"

anyway --- bud is an English word ffs, and Buddha in Thai is Phra Putta Jao, so it sounds nothing like that

owl heads eh ,,thats a new one to me an i like it

 

[harvestreaper]

always thought golden buds were simply cured seen many strains go diffrent shades of brown to gold after a long cure i always understood that in ganja smoking countries they preffered cured buds to uncured much same as tobbaco,,i just thought green buds were rushed to market and we take it as the norm

 

[romanoweed]

harvestreaper. on my Research i found someone with a old thaistickline, i think he cured it alot, yes but still, would i cure an ogkush or whatever it would not look the same. Also i guess not every Thai would look like that. Its a golden , red, White coloration, very. I mean i never saw a Doubledhai ACE, or Landraceteams Thais like that.. I could imagine also not every really old Thais looked like that after cure

 

[Donald Mallard]

always thought golden buds were simply cured seen many strains go diffrent shades of brown to gold after a long cure i always understood that in ganja smoking countries they preffered cured buds to uncured much same as tobbaco,,i just thought green buds were rushed to market and we take it as the norm

some are golden when harvested ,
might take the right strain and the right climate to make it so

but ive seen it quite a few times ...

 

[harvestreaper]

harvestreaper. on my Research i found someone with a old thaistickline, i think he cured it alot, yes but still, would i cure an ogkush or whatever it would not look the same. Also i guess not every Thai would look like that. Its a golden , red, White coloration, very. I mean i never saw a Doubledhai ACE, or Landraceteams Thais like that.. I could imagine also not every really old Thais looked like that after cure

yea the kushes carry indica hash making plants that how i believe the indoor commercial crops get such a fast crop to market smells so strong can move it as soon as dry were sativas need longer to cure to get flavours and i agree im sure lots of variables

 

[harvestreaper]

some are golden when harvested ,
might take the right strain and the right climate to make it so

but ive seen it quite a few times ...

not seen it on outdoor plants here but ive seen plants left to dry out in a growroom turn golden and yellow while still on plant im guessing very dry conditions no water at end of flo is main factor on the other hand had some idian haze that had a yellow golden hue to the buds wet or dry ,,sounds like its as you say a few factors

 

[@hempy]

always thought golden buds were simply cured seen many strains go diffrent shades of brown to gold after a long cure i always understood that in ganja smoking countries they preffered cured buds to uncured much same as tobbaco,,i just thought green buds were rushed to market and we take it as the norm

The Thai Americans call chock a high Land Thai grew green but from the point you harvest the plant and hang it to dry to the point it dried the flowers went from green to brown.

 

[ngakpa]

The Thai Americans call chock a high Land Thai grew green but from the point you harvest the plant and hang it to dry to the point it dried the flowers went from green to brown.

yes, this is definitely a common trait in Southeast Asian ganja

pretty sure it's an enzymatic process, same as in making black and oolong teas

enzymes oxidize the chlorophyll

at the same time, enzymes change the terpenes etc., which is what explains the changes in aromas and effect caused by curing

 

[@hempy]

I saw it in all high land Thais but the 78 Thai that i believe is a low Land Thai drys Green and cures Brown.

 

[Donald Mallard]

I saw it in all high land Thais but the 78 Thai that i believe is a low Land Thai drys Green and cures Brown.

how do u know the difference ??



its bothered me that what you call golden buddha ends up brown instead of golden , one would assume given the name , which should be golden thai rather than golden buddha ,

that it would go golden ,, perhaps its the grow technique , the environment it grows under , but ideally something called golden should be that imo , dont you think too??

 

[Raco]

Golden enough guys?

 

[Donald Mallard]

Golden enough guys?

https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=1209&pictureid=2023282View Image

i think so raco , haha ,
looks great man ,
ive always had a soft spot for golden herb ...