Bush Weed Seeds

[romanoweed]

no, it Needs to be much much brighter, goldener. Try it again. Joke, haha. But serious i found the bleached one i saw even crazyer. It was a line from ssssclub?? icant remember, was nearly White.


I have googled it all....

 

[Raco]

LOL

"La rubia de la costa" colombian

 

[@hempy]

how do u know the difference ??



its bothered me that what you call golden buddha ends up brown instead of golden , one would assume given the name , which should be golden thai rather than golden buddha ,

that it would go golden ,, perhaps its the grow technique , the environment it grows under , but ideally something called golden should be that imo , dont you think too??

Well the high Land Thai had a wider/broad leaf compared to the 78 still a very sativa leaf.

High Land Thais and the line my mate collected from Thailand the Thai guy called golden Buddha went from Green at harvest to brown as the plant dried.

The 78 dose not it drys Green and cures brown.

 

[Raco]

Blue Sky Blond ?



LOLOL

 

[romanoweed]

yeah, so Blond it even becomes limelightgreen on the leafes, Looks crazyer with some leafes on. try it again

 

[Donald Mallard]

Well the high Land Thai had a wider/broad leaf compared to the 78 still a very sativa leaf.

High Land Thais and the line my mate collected from Thailand the Thai guy called golden Buddha went from Green at harvest to brown as the plant dried.

The 78 dose not it drys Green and cures brown.

im surprised like me you are not wondering why something called golden is not golden ??

dont you think it was called that due to the color??

 

[ngakpa]

2p, "gold" quite often gets used in brand names regardless of what the product looks like

(Thai Buddha and Golden Buddha are brand names cooked up by Westerners that some Thais might repeat when selling to Westerners)

I've seen people online talking about Swazi Gold, when in my experience it was Swazi Red (or Redbeard, Roibaart) we used to get, and it had long red stigmas

people also talk about Idukki Gold, when what I saw and heard talked about in Kerala was light green or brown buds - and previously people talked about almost blue bud, and there was the name Neelachadayan (blue dreads)

the good Lao landraces from Vientiane Province seem to have variants ("phenos") that cure to brown, and variants that don't (usually stay soft light green) within the same landrace

in Savannakhet and Bolkihamsai, there is very nice golden ganja produced each year, the bulk of which goes for export - but it's all done through brokers, so it's not something an outsider is going to get just by rocking up in Laos and asking around... (you can see it in brick form in places like Bangkok and Chiang Mai in first half of the year though)

I called a recent accession "Lao Gold" because it's a top class landrace from arguably the best area producing golden ganja, but to what extent it's a question of technique and terroir I couldn't honestly tell you

 

[Raho]

always thought golden buds were simply cured seen many strains go diffrent shades of brown to gold after a long cure i always understood that in ganja smoking countries they preffered cured buds to uncured much same as tobbaco,,i just thought green buds were rushed to market and we take it as the norm

It shouldn't surprise anyone to find golden flowers in some strains or phenos still on the plant (no curing.)
After all, resin glands turn amber when they go past cloudy, and leaves often turn yellow or gold in senescence.


I know it's not all that common. Just pointing out that it happens and not necessarily dependent on curing or other human intervention.

 

[ngakpa]

It shouldn't surprise anyone to find golden flowers in some strains or phenos still on the plant (no curing.)
After all, resin glands turn amber when they go past cloudy, and leaves often turn yellow or gold in senescence.

I know it's not all that common. Just pointing out that it happens and not necessarily dependent on curing or other human intervention.

I've seen golden bud in Laos that I guess was sun-bleached from cutting way too late or the plant dying or whatever, and it's definitely not the same as the good gold Lao / Thai ganja

ime, the point in senescence when ganja is traditionally correctly cut is when the larger leaves along the colas die back, which is well before the flowers themselves die

 

[TheDarkStorm]

(Thai Buddha and Golden Buddha are brand names cooked up by Westerners that some Thais might repeat when selling to Westerners)

This is wat I was trying to say....maybe attached from the times it was being exported out.

 

[ngakpa]

(Thai Buddha and Golden Buddha are brand names cooked up by Westerners that some Thais might repeat when selling to Westerners)

This is wat I was trying to say....maybe attached from the times it was being exported out.

what you said was that "Buddha" came from "bud"

 

[TheDarkStorm]

what you said was that "Buddha" came from "bud"

I do do things back to front sometimes ...an perhaps arnt very clear wen I write stuff down...I was actually agreeing with wat youd said after anyways.. that it has nothing to do with the religious Buddha an that us thinking this was completely out of contex...i know many people who's native language isnt English an they arnt very good at it...but wen they talk to English speaking folk in English their accent an not very good English can make some words sound different to wat their actually trying to say...or the English speaking may hear an understand the words slightly different to wat the speakers actually trying to say....so what we should be saying or wat is actually being said is golden bud or thai bud....which it looks like was attached to specific types by english speaking foreigners..probably from the time that it was being exported out of the country in huge amounts in combined efforts with some thai gangs and English speaking foreigners....would be nice to find out wat the locals and farmers actually called these types in their native tounge so we may be able to track them down in todays age if ther still about...some place..
Hope thats abit more clear

 

[funkyhorse]

Wen thai's call weed budda eg golden budda ther not referring to the buddha but the weed buds..eg golden budda would translate to golden bud an not the golden enlightened one.

Hi TDS
I hope you dont mind,I find it funny but as people who lived in buddhist countries are saying, buddhist people might get offended

Phonetics are different, bud and Buddha dont pronounce the same and even when you hear thais speaking broken english you can clearly tell the difference between both words and what they are referring to:
Buddha phonetics: UK:*/ˈbʊdə/USbo̅o̅′də, bŏŏd′ə)
bud phonetics:UK:*/ˈbʌd/US:/bʌd/

2p, "gold" quite often gets used in brand names regardless of what the product looks like

(Thai Buddha and Golden Buddha are brand names cooked up by Westerners that some Thais might repeat when selling to Westerners)

I've seen people online talking about Swazi Gold, when in my experience it was Swazi Red (or Redbeard, Roibaart) we used to get, and it had long red stigmas

people also talk about Idukki Gold, when what I saw and heard talked about in Kerala was light green or brown buds - and previously people talked about almost blue bud, and there was the name Neelachadayan (blue dreads)

the good Lao landraces from Vientiane Province seem to have variants ("phenos") that cure to brown, and variants that don't (usually stay soft light green) within the same landrace

in Savannakhet and Bolkihamsai, there is very nice golden ganja produced each year, the bulk of which goes for export - but it's all done through brokers, so it's not something an outsider is going to get just by rocking up in Laos and asking around... (you can see it in brick form in places like Bangkok and Chiang Mai in first half of the year though)

I called a recent accession "Lao Gold" because it's a top class landrace from arguably the best area producing golden ganja, but to what extent it's a question of technique and terroir I couldn't honestly tell you

Ngakpa, if you are calling the Savannakhet ganja Lao Gold, from the bits of info in the internet I am understanding that the appropiate name for Highland Lao 1 should be Lao Pyrite and I would be wasting my time if I grow it, wouldnt I? I copy from your instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B919y17HsNW/

@marijuannial think I've got what you mean. Highland Lao #1 was just cut early. I wouldn't bother with it. Go with #2



I have another question for you ngakpa, I hope you dont mind. After reading this article it is absolutely clear to me that environment and livelihood has been dramatically changed along the Mekong. How is the quality of current lao ganja compared to the quality of 10-15 years ago and with the quality of just 5 years ago before the dam construction:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/15/world/asia/mekong-river-dams-thailand.html

 

[ngakpa]

I do do things back to front sometimes ...an perhaps arnt very clear wen I write stuff down...

fair enough, sorry if I jumped on that, but it's hard to know on here if people are deliberately spreading misinfo and confusion

There are sometimes different names used in Laos, e.g. "saa daeng" ("red ganja") is a name that was used for a type in Lao in the 60s and 70s. Pretty sure it was because of prominent red stigmas, which you see in the Vientiane type sometimes.

"Malaysee" is a another name I've seen used, but hard to say if it's for a specific strain or for the product, because it's contracted for export to Malaysia. It was typically brown and quite strong.

In general names are something applied by outsiders, and my sense is that often outsiders will unwittingly treat variants ("phenos") of landraces as if they're different strains.

 

[ngakpa]

from the bits of info in the internet I am understanding that the appropiate name for Highland Lao 1 should be Lao Pyrite and I would be wasting my time if I grow it, wouldnt I?

the seeds I listed as Highland Lao were the first of the new season's seeds that I could get hold of - which is why I listed them

the reason I said don't bother with them is just that there's not much point growing them when the Highland Lao #2 is a proper representation of the serious commercial landrace found in Bolikhamsai, and grown properly

Highland Lao #2 is from serious ganja farmers, whereas the first Bolikhamsai isn't - no serious ganja farmer cuts their crop at the end of October

but it's important to distinguish between the strain and the end product --- the thing to realize with traditional ganja landraces is that perhaps more than with any other type of Cannabis, aspects like terroir (soil, climate) and technique are absolutely crucial to the quality of the end product

that's why farmers used to like to grow along the Mekong - not just for ease of irrigation, but also because the soil there (ultimately from eastern Tibet) makes for great ganja

the same is true of most famous regions, e.g. Idukki

I have another question for you ngakpa, I hope you dont mind. After reading this article it is absolutely clear to me that environment and livelihood has been dramatically changed along the Mekong. How is the quality of current lao ganja compared to the quality of 10-15 years ago and with the quality of just 5 years ago before the dam construction:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/15/world/asia/mekong-river-dams-thailand.html

your question is based on a misunderstanding

there was growing nearby the Mekong in Laos as recently as the mid 80s, in places like Thakhek and Paksan

but it's been decades since large scale growing moved up into the highlands, or at very least into discrete private farmland

now and then people get cheeky, like a few years back when there huge fields sown near Paksan

usually the Lao police will bust people when they behave like this, but not always

in 2018, there were some very big fields just north of Luang Prabang too, right in the middle of a small town (which I won't name)...

funny thing is, backpackers go right past all these places in minibuses etc. and they never see it, even though it's right under their nose - these were huge plants growing in big fields immediately behind the main village guesthouse... but of course, travellers these days are more unoriginal than ever thanks to Instagram etc., so they miss it all

 

[funkyhorse]

I understand the difference in the quality of the final ganja product from both Bolikhamsai accessions
But, are they different genetics or they are different crops made with the same Bolikhamsai strain?

Will the quality of seed change according to the quality of final product if I chop a plant early or chopped when reached maturity? I dont know thats why I ask but without knowing it I think chopping early does not affect genetics. If it is from the same area, then it is probably the same pollen around

You can have the same ingredients for your chicken fried rice cooked by two different chefs and you will have two different results. Same thing happens when growing any plant I guess

Backpackers of today travel for just a few days, they try to be in as many places they can with their eyes stuck on their mobile phone taking glamorous pictures to be placed on Instagram for the world to see. Instagram replaced The Lonely Planet guide of 20 years ago. And certainly backpackers will never get to know or see what is hidden in the background of a place in just a couple of weeks or months without speaking the local language

How is Lowland Laos life affected by the dam?
Quality of lao commercial crops of today is the same as 15 years ago or it got hybridized like in Cambodia?

 

[Donald Mallard]

2p, "gold" quite often gets used in brand names regardless of what the product looks like

(Thai Buddha and Golden Buddha are brand names cooked up by Westerners that some Thais might repeat when selling to Westerners)

I've seen people online talking about Swazi Gold, when in my experience it was Swazi Red (or Redbeard, Roibaart) we used to get, and it had long red stigmas

people also talk about Idukki Gold, when what I saw and heard talked about in Kerala was light green or brown buds - and previously people talked about almost blue bud, and there was the name Neelachadayan (blue dreads)

the good Lao landraces from Vientiane Province seem to have variants ("phenos") that cure to brown, and variants that don't (usually stay soft light green) within the same landrace

in Savannakhet and Bolkihamsai, there is very nice golden ganja produced each year, the bulk of which goes for export - but it's all done through brokers, so it's not something an outsider is going to get just by rocking up in Laos and asking around... (you can see it in brick form in places like Bangkok and Chiang Mai in first half of the year though)

I called a recent accession "Lao Gold" because it's a top class landrace from arguably the best area producing golden ganja, but to what extent it's a question of technique and terroir I couldn't honestly tell you

There was definitely a bunch of golden thai exported to australia , i toked on it for quite a while when i was younger,
for those of us that did we thought it was superior to the browner stuff we got on sticks prior to the gold ,
hence my questioning hempys product not being gold , as it certainly has the potential to be if grown from seeds garnered from what we got in oz for a while ....

the other point i was trying to make was perhaps some thai dude gave those seeds to hempys mate knowing full well they were not what he claimed them to be and in fact they were just thai seeds not necessarily a golden variety .... (thais are known to exaggerate as you know)

certainly where and how you grow the stuff has an impact on the end product ,
westerners generally use more fertilizer than needed and this has an affect on the outcome , they dont cure it generally , etc etc



i doubt the thais were prone to using more fert than needed since its obviously both work and money spent , so more chance their end product will be golden if its a variety prone to doing that ..


i tested this theory on the laos i got that went golden the first grow i did of it ,,

the other few times i grew the same cut it was quite green as the soil was much richer , not giving the plant the chance to go golden as it had previously .... it didnt dry brown either , just green ....

 

[TakenByTheSky]

So does anyone have any more pics of nev21 x mm?

What's bushy up to?

 

[TheDarkStorm]

There was definitely a bunch of golden thai exported to australia , i toked on it for quite a while when i was younger,
for those of us that did we thought it was superior to the browner stuff we got on sticks prior to the gold ,
hence my questioning hempys product not being gold , as it certainly has the potential to be if grown from seeds garnered from what we got in oz for a while ....

the other point i was trying to make was perhaps some thai dude gave those seeds to hempys mate knowing full well they were not what he claimed them to be and in fact they were just thai seeds not necessarily a golden variety .... (thais are known to exaggerate as you know)

certainly where and how you grow the stuff has an impact on the end product ,
westerners generally use more fertilizer than needed and this has an affect on the outcome , they dont cure it generally , etc etc



i doubt the thais were prone to using more fert than needed since its obviously both work and money spent , so more chance their end product will be golden if its a variety prone to doing that ..


i tested this theory on the laos i got that went golden the first grow i did of it ,,

the other few times i grew the same cut it was quite green as the soil was much richer , not giving the plant the chance to go golden as it had previously .... it didnt dry brown either , just green ....

Your right about changes in the quality an look of the product due to the way its grown eg quality of soils, or using alternative media, feed extra ..and also how the procedure goes in taking the live plant till the time its useable to smoke....I tried something similar to you myself...much like you Donald I saw changes in the overall quality an look of the flower

 

[harvestreaper]

Your right about changes in the quality an look of the product due to the way its grown eg quality of soils, or using alternative media, feed extra ..and also how the procedure goes in taking the live plant till the time its useable to smoke....I tried something similar to you myself...much like you Donald I saw changes in the overall quality an look of the flower

its interesting now i think about it more can remember a kiler queen female that was bright gold yellow wet an dry and most of the buds ive seen cure gold were organially grown outdoor with nothing but a homemade comfrey tea an cured for months and no over dry conditions involved