Bush Weed Seeds

[@hempy]

Hempy that clone that ace use is not nevils hand selected clone..it just comes from seed from nevil's old stock...even the a5 pheno they use is different to the one chosen by nevil to make his final Neville's haze.

Hi mate yep f1 seed sold in seed shops in Amsterdam i still have NH f1s i got years from shanti at CW stored as im sure many others do also.

 

[@hempy]

@ hempy ,, there is some thai seed in thailand ,
but 40 years has gone by since they stopped growing large commercial crops ,
so the seed has also dwindled ,
i read old mate from the real seed company has some , and i would think that would be the best bet on getting some ,
reeferman possibly too , im doubting too many locals have a seed stash ,
they are not the same as aussies ,

otherwise the seed could well be from what goes around thailand now , the brickweed reputed to be grown in laos , i probably have some of that around ,
but the super laos went in first and im yet to get to the brick weed seed ,


it might be quite ok ,but the brickweed itself looks like it may be harvested before its peak , hard to tell how good it is if grown properly to its full potential ..

Hi Donald the quality of the imported Thai coming to Australia and the rest of the world i suspect started to go down hill mid 80s sure some real good Thai was about but not all a lot was ok at best.


Even tho i was growing good Thai i was always hunting for more variety's.My close mate went to Thailand every 2 months for work around 88 he had made friends and had a supply when he arrived.My mate got the Golden Buddha from him who got it from the growers supplying him he was told best there was.


You know your self you could drive from one end of this country travel 5000km go town by town and find basically Vietnamese sk.But if you know the right people you can get hold of old genetics like Thai Swazi Colombians that have been in set family's hands for 40 or more years.


I know plenty of people like that most you never suspect they even smoke.


That is why i keep saying lots of what people think is gone is safe all it needs is for law reform to happen before a lot of it will re surface.

 

[@hempy]

Here is a few leaf shots.

Hiya jamesmarshall how many weeks she been in flower looks really frosty mate.

 

[Mustafunk]

I find it odd that a line that belonged to Kanga was traded to set seed company's while he was locked up that tells me he had no say.

I think you are giving too much credit to those who simply speak from what they've read on forums without researching much before re-spitting it again, making them look like they have any first-hand info when they not. On the other hand, I used to have good relation with both Bushy, Charlie Garcia and Nevil so I got to know a few stories from the horse's mouth.

When Kanga was busted and lost his seed collection, Bushy thought about preserving some of the seeds Kanga had given him before in order to keep them until Kanga was able to recover them. Charlie and Kanga also knew and respected each other from the forums from what I see.

All those seeds were the result of the pollinations Kanga did with his MM and Oaxacan males back in 2010. He had duplicated clones from his best females, so he decided to pollinate half of them with the MM male and half of them with the Oaxacan Trance male. You can see pics from the clones and males on Kanga's album on this operation:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=19704

A big bunch of all those mixed seeds were sent to Charlie, hoping he could try to separate and reproduce some of them (especially the Oaxacan) in pure form. Of course this sounds very unlikely to achieve, at least without proper DNA testing, so the plants were reproduced by choosing the plants that resembled more to the Oaxacans according to Bushy's pictures and descriptions from Kanga's Oaxacan. I've even had the chance to see the plants at Charlie's garden when he was growing all those seeds from Kanga, as I was living close to him at the time. He documented the grow here as well.

Bushy and Charlie have been also online friends for years and the Haze seeds where shared that way, along with some of the repros he did with Kanga's seeds. The Haze came from a French grower who had contacts in Holland, so they are probably just old stock Hazes from Sam. I grew a bunch myself and they are resinous and fragrant, but not better than other Hazes I grew before, in fact they look quite compact, a bit like Tom's Hazes. Bushy seem to love them and crossed it with BLB Laos he obtained before. From the rest, I can't speak much.

Donald has documented and knows this Laos very well. It's a beautiful plant with nice mango terpenes and slender appereance.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[@hempy]

I think you are giving too much credit to those who simply speak from what they've read on forums without researching much before re-spitting it again, making them look like they have any first-hand info when they not. On the other hand, I used to have good relation with both Bushy, Charlie Garcia and Nevil so I got to know a few stories from the horse's mouth.

When Kanga was busted and lost his seed collection, Bushy thought about preserving some of the seeds Kanga had given him before in order to keep them until Kanga was able to recover them. Charlie and Kanga also knew and respected each other from the forums from what I see.

All those seeds were the result of the pollinations Kanga did with his MM and Oaxacan males back in 2010. He had duplicated clones from his best females, so he decided to pollinate half of them with the MM male and half of them with the Oaxacan Trance male. You can see pics from the clones and males on Kanga's album on this operation:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=19704

A big bunch of all those mixed seeds were sent to Charlie, hoping he could try to separate and reproduce some of them (especially the Oaxacan) in pure form. Of course this sounds very unlikely to achieve, at least without proper DNA testing, so the plants were reproduced by choosing the plants that resembled more to the Oaxacans according to Bushy's pictures and descriptions from Kanga's Oaxacan. I've even had the chance to see the plants at Charlie's garden when he was growing all those seeds from Kanga, as I was living close to him at the time. He documented the grow here as well.

Bushy and Charlie have been also online friends for years and the Haze seeds where shared that way, along with some of the repros he did with Kanga's seeds. The Haze came from a French grower who had contacts in Holland, so they are probably just old stock Hazes from Sam. I grew a bunch myself and they are resinous and fragrant, but not better than other Hazes I grew before, in fact they look quite compact, a bit like Tom's Hazes. Bushy seem to love them and crossed it with BLB Laos he obtained before. From the rest, I can't speak much.

Donald has documented and knows this Laos very well. It's a beautiful plant with nice mango terpenes and slender appereance.

Just my 2 cents.

I spoke to Nev daily Nev told me what he had sold Bushy and all of what was going on..Nev who had the Oaxacan line he had made seed and had seed of it handed to Kangas mate for when kanga got out.



I dont know how bushy got hold of all Kangas cuts if they were at his home when things went bad .Yes Bushy was given some clones even Seeds that he grew out and the grow logs of that is at Mr nice.



Personally i dont want to air there private business and have not or will not.The facts are these bushy dose not have the parent lines to the things he is selling breed by Neville at Gorilla seeds.He may well have the parents to Super Loas haze but the rest he dose not.



Nev was told not to sell trade or gift my Thai to any one and he was only okay to sell hybrids of it and he did just as i asked.I know this to be 100% as he felt that to be the most valuable of all and told me that before he past away more so than haze .


People in here in PM are claiming they can get you a contact for a price to then buy seeds of my Thai not a chance.


Why would bushy need to get seed from Nev if he had the plants to reproduce the seeds him self ?.


I also spoke to Nev about set clones claimed to be his that are now getting around i dont thing people want me posting what he said.

 

[@hempy]

One key point the people that paid money for these seeds should grow them out because if they are copys of Nevs work then odds are you may find something special.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Hi Donald the quality of the imported Thai coming to Australia and the rest of the world i suspect started to go down hill mid 80s sure some real good Thai was about but not all a lot was ok at best.


Even tho i was growing good Thai i was always hunting for more variety's.My close mate went to Thailand every 2 months for work around 88 he had made friends and had a supply when he arrived.My mate got the Golden Buddha from him who got it from the growers supplying him he was told best there was.


You know your self you could drive from one end of this country travel 5000km go town by town and find basically Vietnamese sk.But if you know the right people you can get hold of old genetics like Thai Swazi Colombians that have been in set family's hands for 40 or more years.


I know plenty of people like that most you never suspect they even smoke.


That is why i keep saying lots of what people think is gone is safe all it needs is for law reform to happen before a lot of it will re surface.

wonder if it was golden thai , maybe it was laos?

im doubting too much of that was being grown by 1988 since heavy duty laws came into play in 1980 which spelt the end of the thai cannabis era ,
the punishments for growing were not mild like they are in our country ,
im aware some "thai" was still reaching our shores by the mid 80s , but i cant say it came from thailand specifically , just that it was called thai ...



35 - 40 years is a long time to keep seed viable without a reproduction of them ,
ill stick with my stance on it hempy , its very doubtful the stuff from the early 80s and 70s is still around in the same form ,
we might get some things that remind us of those days from countries bordering thailand whose laws are not as strict ,
and growing has continued ..


btw , has your golden thai even actually gone golden ??

if so , any pics ??

 

[Bud Jones]

I spoke to Nev daily Nev told me what he had sold Bushy and all of what was going on..Nev who had the Oaxacan line he had made seed and had seed of it handed to Kangas mate for when kanga got out.



I dont know how bushy got hold of all Kangas cuts if they were at his home when things went bad .Yes Bushy was given some clones even Seeds that he grew out and the grow logs of that is at Mr nice.



Personally i dont want to air there private business and have not or will not.The facts are these bushy dose not have the parent lines to the things he is selling breed by Neville at Gorilla seeds.He may well have the parents to Super Loas haze but the rest he dose not.



Nev was told not to sell trade or gift my Thai to any one and he was only okay to sell hybrids of it and he did just as i asked.I know this to be 100% as he felt that to be the most valuable of all and told me that before he past away more so than haze .


People in here in PM are claiming they can get you a contact for a price to then buy seeds of my Thai not a chance.


Why would bushy need to get seed from Nev if he had the plants to reproduce the seeds him self ?.


I also spoke to Nev about set clones claimed to be his that are now getting around i dont thing people want me posting what he said.

It’s a new era now .. Maybe Nevil did ask you not to gift them .. Imagine the good energy if you changed the paradigm and blessed some good people ,who would be beyond appreciative? A level up per se ?

 

[jamesmarshall]

Quite a bit of controversy over these seeds. I bought a few packs I ran only one pack. Truth be told, I don’t know any of the individuals involved in this situation. Although I think we have all been in an eerily similar situation when it comes to seeds.

When mine are finished I will give an honest report and reply to anyone who is interested.

I’m not a 1 run and I’m done kinda guy so if they have good potential under the circumstances, then I will continue forward through a better selection process.

The info on the strain leads one to believe it is a juicy fruit or sibling, which is sure as shit isn’t lol. My only real question is , is this a commercial Laos/ Thai or is this that of a true quality strain in terms of effects?

I posted a few leaf photos as to hopefully have someone chime in that has grown the super Laos out before. Because even in the description photo the pic doesn’t show fine elegant thin leaves.

I’m optimistic, and excited to see what’s in store for super Laos haze. I will post more as they develop. Thanks

 

[Donald Mallard]

this is all super laos james ..

 

[Donald Mallard]

 

[@hempy]

wonder if it was golden thai , maybe it was laos?

im doubting too much of that was being grown by 1988 since heavy duty laws came into play in 1980 which spelt the end of the thai cannabis era ,
the punishments for growing were not mild like they are in our country ,
im aware some "thai" was still reaching our shores by the mid 80s , but i cant say it came from thailand specifically , just that it was called thai ...



35 - 40 years is a long time to keep seed viable without a reproduction of them ,
ill stick with my stance on it hempy , its very doubtful the stuff from the early 80s and 70s is still around in the same form ,
we might get some things that remind us of those days from countries bordering thailand whose laws are not as strict ,
and growing has continued ..


btw , has your golden thai even actually gone golden ??

if so , any pics ??

Donald no it was called Golden Buddha and that strain would go brown from the point of harvest to when the plant was dry over 5 or so days depending on the heat.


I lost that strain because of poor seed storage i researched seed storage after that and now get 75% to 95% germination in 20 year old seed.



Trafficking cannabis across Thailand borders would get you in as much shit or more shit than growing your own they have a weed culture in Thailand also.



Cambodia from what i know has the most relaxed attitude towards cannabis you can find it at the local Markets and even have it sprinkled over your pizza.



A friend did a trek threw Thailand a few years ago and she told me she and her group came across cannabis growing wild in the Jungle.


You cant say it did not come from Thailand ether Donald but when my friend who traveled to Thailand every 2 months would score weed each time he arrived from the same guy that said it was Thailand weed who am i going to believe him or you mate.

 

[@hempy]

It’s a new era now .. Maybe Nevil did ask you not to gift them .. Imagine the good energy if you changed the paradigm and blessed some good people ,who would be beyond appreciative? A level up per se ?

I gave Neville the Thai mate i am happy to share it but i dont want it ending up in seed company's and the corporate cannabis industry were some one puts a patent on it or were i see it feminized.


When its legal here and i can protect it i will.


The person that gave it to me told me what he wanted .

 

[jamesmarshall]

Thanks Donald!
That dried shot of the flower looks amazing! Looks like it was dipped in gold dust. That helps in the identifying of the leaf a little bit. What was the smell like while in veg? Was it intense or more subtle? Did you ever have any hermi at the preflower stage? Thanks , and great job on those beauties.

 

[Elmer Bud]

G `day Hempy

I`m more than a little surprised to hear of a Thai strain called Golden Buddha .
I speculate that name was added by Australians .
It would be a shock to hear Thai folks associate Kancha with Buddha .

Putting a Buddha statue or jewelry below waist level is taboo in Thailand .Buddha is like a God in Thailand and the monks and temples are held in the highest regard .
Thai folks calling ganja Buddha ? It`d be a bit like Jehovah`s Witnesses having Jesus weed .

 

[Donald Mallard]

hempy i smoked what they called golden buddah ,
in my teens,

and eb is quite right , its an aussie term
no thai would ever call herb buddah ,


golden thai was guess what , golden , it looked very similar to the pics i posted above of the golden laos , aka super laos ..

we got a fair bit of golden thai after the thai sticks stopped ,
it only lasted a short time but i remember it vividly as it was such good erb ,



the only cannabis in thailand of any quantity after the early 80s was not thai , it came from countries closer to thailand,
and it still exists despite what you think
cannabis is transported over thai borders pretty much everyday ,
remember many of us have been and seen with our own eyes ,
you are relying in second hand stories that may be a little blown out of proportion ,
they sound like they are thats for sure ..



this is what you get in thailand these days ,
and its not grown in thailand ...

very few people grow herb there because thais have a rep for spreading rumours etc like wild fire ,,

some is grown , but very little , nothing much that could be regarded as commercial crops ...

this is the brick weed ..

 

[Bud Jones]

I gave Neville the Thai mate i am happy to share it but i dont want it ending up in seed company's and the corporate cannabis industry were some one puts a patent on it or were i see it feminized.


When its legal here and i can protect it i will.


The person that gave it to me told me what he wanted .

I can respect that . . Our word is all we have .

 

[@hempy]

hempy i smoked what they called golden buddah ,
in my teens,

and eb is quite right , its an aussie term
no thai would ever call herb buddah ,


golden thai was guess what , golden , it looked very similar to the pics i posted above of the golden laos , aka super laos ..

we got a fair bit of golden thai after the thai sticks stopped ,
it only lasted a short time but i remember it vividly as it was such good erb ,



the only cannabis in thailand of any quantity after the early 80s was not thai , it came from countries closer to thailand,
and it still exists despite what you think
cannabis is transported over thai borders pretty much everyday ,
remember many of us have been and seen with our own eyes ,
you are relying in second hand stories that may be a little blown out of proportion ,
they sound like they are thats for sure ..



this is what you get in thailand these days ,
and its not grown in thailand ...

very few people grow herb there because thais have a rep for spreading rumours etc like wild fire ,,

some is grown , but very little , nothing much that could be regarded as commercial crops ...

this is the brick weed ..

Donald what i post is factual and correct again the person who it came from was a Thai person in Thailand said the strain was called Golden Buddha. Why would i make this up again you were not there yes i know you go to Thailand and again that dose not mean you seen every strain there or smoked every strain or met every grower mate.


No wrong again Donald the Golden Buddha would go dark brown from harvest to dry a mater of a few days your Loas goes lite brown with cure.The Thai i have now also starts to go brown with a long cure very different to a strain going brown in days of harvest as it drys.


Here are just a few videos of Thai lines being grown in Thailand by Thai people.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHhElTg_CXo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKWubE77pMY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkK-J8tq_fE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j24X8fU4_78


Thailand police bust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAoBtDvLv0o


Cambodian Farmers growing lots of Cannabis 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF_c3zjPkKo

 

[Donald Mallard]

wow i wonder why it was called golden buddah if it goes dark brown ,(sniggers)
anyhow im not going to debate you hempy ,
its obvious you lack the skills for a good debate and will not take on any new information either ,
im aware there is some herb grown in thailand i even said that , but its not on a commercial scale as it was and there is no way to tell they didnt get the seed from the brick weed i posted ,

can you read thai ??

enjoy that brown weed that is called golden for some weird reason ... .

 

[Donald Mallard]

btw that large crop you posted did u read what they say ??



ill quote the translation for you ...



Ending green dreams ... Bolivia burned tens of thousands of hemp fields.


Bolivia devastates cannabis fields With a total of over ten kilograms of marijuana burned down Identify as the largest arable land ever