Bush Weed Seeds

[Nexus7]

Hiya Maha glad i can make your day but i don't see Loas in that plants structure mate yea i have seen and grown high land Thais that had leaf look similar but it honestly looks like what i would expect to see in a dutch haze hybrid.I am sure you n Donald have seen them to. Saying that as i said in my post before once the plant starts to sex n stretch it could very much express a lot of Loas so far i my self dont see it.

Not sure if it's the same as the Super Laos but I can say Don's BLB? Laos from last season looked eerily similar in structure, color and leaf shape to the Laos Luang Prabang I grew out from Gypsy Nirvana collection a few years back.

Possibly these are more modern representations of Laos genetics vs. your heirloom hempy?

Peace,

N7

 

[Donald Mallard]

hey nexus , i did note the same similarity to the luang probang and the blb laos too man ,

just pics i saw made me notice ,
they were similar to some pot i grew as a younger guy too ,
i had certainly seen that profile previously ...

 

[@hempy]

Not sure if it's the same as the Super Laos but I can say Don's BLB? Laos from last season looked eerily similar in structure, color and leaf shape to the Laos Luang Prabang I grew out from Gypsy Nirvana collection a few years back.

Possibly these are more modern representations of Laos genetics vs. your heirloom hempy?

Peace,

N7

Hi Nexus i have grown sativas in my life out doors and in from Thais to Colombians and almost every single Haze hybrid from Nev and Shanti.I am seeing what i would expect from a haze hybrid as its a Super Loas Haze i think its expressing Haze but as they sex that could change and we see more heavy Asian influence.


Who made the hybrid ?.

 

[MAHA KALA]

I am always surprised how some westerners think that tribal people in Mekong area keep everything pure, like some purists LOL is it some romantic idyll imagine? do you, guys, realize existence of varieties from northern Myanmar, northern Veitnam or south of China? they have more broad leaf variety, does it mean its crossed with some modern western variety? no. and does it mean it cant be traded down the south? no. there is open trade among tribes... so I can easily imagine some guy can receive northern variety and crossed it with southern more narrow leaf variety. so easy. not only westerners hybridize. in fact these guys were crossing varieties long before first westerners even started to smoke ganja.

 

[@hempy]

I am always surprised how some westerners think that tribal people in Mekong area keep everything pure, like some purists LOL is it some romantic idyll imagine? do you, guys, realize existence of varieties from northern Myanmar, northern Veitnam or south of China? they have more broad leaf variety, does it mean its crossed with some modern western variety? no. and does it mean it cant be traded down the south? no. there is open trade among tribes... so I can easily imagine some guy can receive northern variety and crossed it with southern more narrow leaf variety. so easy. not only westerners hybridize. in fact these guys were crossing varieties long before first westerners even started to smoke ganja.

What part of Super Loas Haze you finding confusing Maha so are you trying to tell us that if a Loas line was crossed to a Neville's haze there is no chance of it expressing to the Haze or even the NL ?.


I have grown plenty of heirloom/ land races and all were stable uniform even did a grow thread in Icmag years ago that showed just that.


What do us Westerners know lol

 

[MAHA KALA]

man why dont you read the whole thread? its funny thread. and look to bushweed seeds and read the description, so you will know the lineage, instead of talking about neville´s haze haze again and again like some automatic program. and you are probably blind, but Donald already wrote that leaf shape of this cross(you still dont know what is composed of) is very laos dom. what I found confusing? nothing, but I found you very confused LOL and get rid of that neville´s haze in everything syndrom please. its very irritating. I know your internet history and you are very into drama, I assure you that me NOT, respect it please.

 

[@hempy]

man why dont you read the whole thread? its funny thread. and look to bushweed seeds and read the description, so you will know the lineage, instead of talking about neville´s haze haze again and again like some automatic program. and you are probably blind, but Donald already wrote that leaf shape of this cross(you still dont know what is composed of) is very laos dom. what I found confusing? nothing, but I found you very confused LOL and get rid of that neville´s haze in everything syndrom please. its very irritating. I know your internet history and you are very into drama, I assure you that me NOT, respect it please.

I have read the whole thread and this thread is was why i came back to the boards to correct the bull shit i was reading regarding Nevs work and my line.


You should follow your own advice and read the thread.

Im not here for drama i gave my opinion like others have and your the one attacking me trying to start drama so grow up and stop playing the victim.

You guys are giving Bushweed way too much credit. He didn't do selections for any of those seeds except the Laos x Haze and those are probably F2s made by someone else. Even the Haze in the cross came from trading Kangas Oaxacan to Charlie Garcia.

Kangativa made all the Mullum, and Oaxaca selections from his lifes work. Nevil made all the NH selections. I am betting BW just made F2s from small populations from Nevils crosses without much selection.

You can't compare those two legends to Bushy. He is much more like a Mark Emory.

He followed the better to ask for forgiveness than permission policy.

 

[romanoweed]

mahla, do you have a Kind of evidence, that 70s landraces where traded and how far.? shure its basically impossible to not outcross in a Scenario of Outdoor grown Races, nationwide. But did they do that on surpose? I heard someone telling they often went to a valley with no pollination to produce Crops, or Seeds, but only once or twice. So they seemed to be advanced to a degree.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

Haze is actually very dominating in breeding..even down to a product that has 10 or 20% haze...so its probably resonable that something thats supposed to be 50% haze will show strong haze domanance...until you grow them out fully with good root space under tropical lighting conditions you probably wont see the super laos expressions properly.

 

[MAHA KALA]

I have read the whole thread and this thread is was why i came back to the boards to correct the bull shit i was reading regarding Nevs work and my line.


You should follow your own advice and read the thread.

Im not here for drama i gave my opinion like others have and your the one attacking me trying to start drama so grow up and stop playing the victim.

hah ok. I am not fan of anybody, in difference to you. so I am not in bushweed fanclub. but that cross is laos with original haze. I have to inform you, because you are not able to find it out. you see how much friendly I am to you? no drama ok? and if you know how leaf of original haze looks, damn I thought you know it. than you can recognize the leaf shape looks more at Laos side. I deducted it myself, without growing Laos. DM confirmed it. no drama please.

 

[MAHA KALA]

mahla, do you have a Kind of evidence, that 70s landraces where traded and how far.? shure its basically impossible to not outcross in a Scenario of Outdoor grown Races, nationwide. But did they do that on surpose? I heard someone telling they often went to a valley with no pollination to produce Crops, or Seeds, but only once or twice. So they seemed to be advanced to a degree.

well man, I am not ethnologist to have evidence, but I suppose trade among tribes as something natural, before seventies, why should be cannabis beans excluded? you have to realize the river Mekong is absolutely great for it and it goes through all those regions.

 

[funkyhorse]

Hi Hempy
There was big noise at first with Bush Weed seeds because of the price requested per pack: 300 australian dollars for 10 seeds at first.
Price has been brought down to 140 aud per pack. How much does an australian pensioner get per month from government?

From what I understood following this thread, the Haze of Super Laos Haze is a cut from Sam's garden traded by Kaiki in exchange for the Kanga's oaxacan, if this is wrong then please someone correct me

And the NH Bob Green is talking about is this:
https://www.seedbay.com/product/mm-x-nevils-haze-21/

And this:
https://www.seedbay.com/product/mm-x-nevils-haze-15/

And I believe this must be your Thai 78 and this cross have been done with your blessings:
https://www.seedbay.com/product/mm-x-thai-78/

So your Thai 78 is Thai Stick???
I heard so much about it, when I arrived to Thailand at the end of the 90's Thai Stick was gone long ago. It is the strain I really wanted to try all my life and couldnt.
Could you make it available for an amateur southern hemisphere fan? So many hybrids today and so few real landraces left
I guess I am not the only one who is interested in trying real Thai Stick

Hi Romano
When I arrived to Thailand at the end of the 90's tribe people were denied Thai citizenship and were confined to their lands.
I dont know how it was before that but certainly up to today I understand they are not trading nor travelling freely
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_tribe_(Thailand)

 

[@hempy]

Hi Hempy
There was big noise at first with Bush Weed seeds because of the price requested per pack: 300 australian dollars for 10 seeds at first.
Price has been brought down to 140 aud per pack. How much does an australian pensioner get per month from government?

From what I understood following this thread, the Haze of Super Laos Haze is a cut from Sam's garden traded by Kaiki in exchange for the Kanga's oaxacan, if this is wrong then please someone correct me

And the NH Bob Green is talking about is this:
https://www.seedbay.com/product/mm-x-nevils-haze-21/

And this:
https://www.seedbay.com/product/mm-x-nevils-haze-15/

And I believe this must be your Thai 78 and this cross have been done with your blessings:
https://www.seedbay.com/product/mm-x-thai-78/

So your Thai 78 is Thai Stick???
I heard so much about it, when I arrived to Thailand at the end of the 90's Thai Stick was gone long ago. It is the strain I really wanted to try all my life and couldnt.
Could you make it available for an amateur southern hemisphere fan? So many hybrids today and so few real landraces left
I guess I am not the only one who is interested in trying real Thai Stick

Hi Romano
When I arrived to Thailand at the end of the 90's tribe people were denied Thai citizenship and were confined to their lands.
I dont know how it was before that but certainly up to today I understand they are not trading nor travelling freely
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_tribe_(Thailand)

Hi FunkyHorse i know there was a lot of drama with bushweeds seeds and i know he got some f1 crosses from Neville as Nev told me what he got but i can tell you now he did not get parent plants to make these crosses.I dont know what Kanga gave him in the way of clones but i know who grew my Thai and that was only Nev.


Regardless if the Super Loas haze has Sams Original haze or it has NH Nev selected it still has haze and all i said was the plant pic i saw in my opinion expressed haze and Maha got his panty's twisted over it.


A close mate who traveled to Thailand monthly for work over a few years in the late 80s collected what was called Golden Buddha from a local he made friends with for me that was a great line also.The Country is big i would say most of the old lines are still there it comes down to knowing the right people or person just like here.



Once its legal here and i know i can protect the strain from the corporate cannabis industry i will release it but not before. Some claim to have it but they dont.



Only person to get it was Nev and he got it with conditions that he honored.

Neville tried a few Thais before my one Gypsy's i think Kanga had but Nev got hold of a line from Reeferman.Nev liked that one also but then he grew and tried my one.

 

[@hempy]

From what I understood following this thread, the Haze of Super Laos Haze is a cut from Sam's garden traded by Kaiki in exchange for the Kanga's oaxacan, if this is wrong then please someone correct me

I find it odd that a line that belonged to Kanga was traded to set seed company's while he was locked up that tells me he had no say.

I also now see Ace allegedly also has Nevs Clone of Neville's haze you can read about it in their Super Malawi Haze thread.


A lot of dodgy shit seams to be going on.
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[Nexus7]

Regardless if the Super Loas haze has Sams Original haze or it has NH Nev selected it still has haze and all i said was the plant pic i saw in my opinion expressed haze and Maha got his panty's twisted over it.

To be fair you did refer to the Super Laos Haze as similar to a dutch haze hybrid. Which can be a tad offensive to us landrace and heirloom Sativa growers. Possibly you were just meaning Nev's Haze but there are a lot other indica dom haze hybrids out there.

Peace,

N7

 

[Donald Mallard]

i think old bushy did get the haze from kaiki ,
i recall him saying he really liked it ,


the super laos , well the super part was just a pun ,
its laos i was sent from blb in thailand ,
he had friends in laos that shared it with him

he said it was some of the best sativa he had toked ,
so i was happy to receive the seed ..

and i sent the seed to bushweed to grow ,



@ hempy ,, there is some thai seed in thailand ,
but 40 years has gone by since they stopped growing large commercial crops ,
so the seed has also dwindled ,
i read old mate from the real seed company has some , and i would think that would be the best bet on getting some ,
reeferman possibly too , im doubting too many locals have a seed stash ,
they are not the same as aussies ,

otherwise the seed could well be from what goes around thailand now , the brickweed reputed to be grown in laos , i probably have some of that around ,
but the super laos went in first and im yet to get to the brick weed seed ,


it might be quite ok ,but the brickweed itself looks like it may be harvested before its peak , hard to tell how good it is if grown properly to its full potential ..

 

[jamesmarshall]

Quick pic update

 

[jamesmarshall]

Here is a few leaf shots.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

I find it odd that a line that belonged to Kanga was traded to set seed company's while he was locked up that tells me he had no say.

I also now see Ace allegedly also has Nevs Clone of Neville's haze you can read about it in their Super Malawi Haze thread.


A lot of dodgy shit seams to be going on.
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Hempy that clone that ace use is not nevils hand selected clone..it just comes from seed from nevil's old stock...even the a5 pheno they use is different to the one chosen by nevil to make his final Neville's haze.

 

[@hempy]

To be fair you did refer to the Super Laos Haze as similar to a dutch haze hybrid. Which can be a tad offensive to us landrace and heirloom Sativa growers. Possibly you were just meaning Nev's Haze but there are a lot other indica dom haze hybrids out there.

Peace,

N7

Hi Nexus i did mate and still think it and that is a complement some of Nev and shantis best haze hybrids were 50% haze.


Even if it is a Loas x Haze it still is a 50% haze hybrid.


You can cross a afghan to Haze and still end up with a plant that flowers as long as the Haze but have Flowers like the Afghan it all depends on how the genetics combine bit of a roll of the dice.