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olddrifter66
If I remember correctly, lifesaver gives you an almost euphoric head and body.....where as sourbubble is almost like a tasty ass tranquilizer.
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southwind
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olddrifter66 said:
That would sum it up.
I was hoping you would stop by, Old drifter..I have those new updates on the Chocolate/Elephant Thai for you...and some others..
Trunk of Choc/Eleph Thai..
Choc/Eleph Thai after topping 1 foot and dose of Bushmaster..
Choc/Eleph Thai Pheno #2
Sour Bubble outdoors begins to flower..
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olddrifter66
Good grief..........whewwww......That's it... I have a new girlfriend....
I just love a big hairy girl. Does she have a sister? Is she single? Does she like being fondled and licked?....oh yeah.................................oh yeah.
Great work. Thanks for the update. Geez.....
I just love a big hairy girl. Does she have a sister? Is she single? Does she like being fondled and licked?....oh yeah.................................oh yeah.
Great work. Thanks for the update. Geez.....
Chiming in
Chiming in
I might as well "Chime" in on this.. I'm not on IC very much. Used to be on OG back in the day, spend most my time at another site.
I'm very interested in BOG's genetics. and am very lucky to have had the opportunity to meet him in person on a few different occasions. Much great things and Respect goes to this guy. Master of the Sour Bubble. I smoked some of BOG's SB FM bubble hash he made, and it completely Stucking Foned me.
opens up that third eye.
tears, nose tingles, drool
Although I don't see him in person much anymore a close friend of mine visits him about once every couple of months.
To cut to the chase I was recently Gifted 23 Sour Bubble Bx4 seeds, and I still have about 4 or 5 Bx3 beans as well.. plus 10 grape punch. I will be starting these up around fall/winter.
There are 2 Sour Bubble Bx3's in flower right now. They are both similar structure to everything else I have seen. not very bushy (unless trained) . seems to like a longer veg time to yield. blah blah blah. I have access to more of bogs genetics, and would like to help in whatever way i can. I'll try to dig some pics up in the meantime.. and Well.. thats it for now.
pics are Blue moon rocks
Sour bubble ( hydro ) and
Bogglegum
grown organically in soil
Chiming in
I might as well "Chime" in on this.. I'm not on IC very much. Used to be on OG back in the day, spend most my time at another site.
I'm very interested in BOG's genetics. and am very lucky to have had the opportunity to meet him in person on a few different occasions. Much great things and Respect goes to this guy. Master of the Sour Bubble. I smoked some of BOG's SB FM bubble hash he made, and it completely Stucking Foned me.
opens up that third eye. tears, nose tingles, drool
Although I don't see him in person much anymore a close friend of mine visits him about once every couple of months.
To cut to the chase I was recently Gifted 23 Sour Bubble Bx4 seeds, and I still have about 4 or 5 Bx3 beans as well.. plus 10 grape punch. I will be starting these up around fall/winter.
There are 2 Sour Bubble Bx3's in flower right now. They are both similar structure to everything else I have seen. not very bushy (unless trained) . seems to like a longer veg time to yield. blah blah blah. I have access to more of bogs genetics, and would like to help in whatever way i can. I'll try to dig some pics up in the meantime.. and Well.. thats it for now.
pics are Blue moon rocks
Sour bubble ( hydro ) and
Bogglegum
grown organically in soil
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southwind
Member
dreams
dreams
That is just some of the most beautiful plants I have ever seen.
I would grow that for an ornamental!!
wow. Just outstanding.
sw
dreams
Care Free 1 said:I am really amazed that BOG did not continue production of this plant, or at least pass it off for other professional breeders to work with. The combination of potency, plant structure, and breeding capabilities make it highly desired.
I'm just glad I am able to continue on with it, hopefully for the next 10 years or so.
That is just some of the most beautiful plants I have ever seen.
I would grow that for an ornamental!!
wow. Just outstanding.
sw
I love the way the Sour Bubble plants look, but looks mean nothing without potency. These have the potency to go along with the looks. All the different pheno's seem to pack the same punch also.
The plants also clone very easy. This clone was in flower for 2 1/2 weeks and you can see how strong a plant it is.
More clones off the same mother. One of the best mother plants I had.
southwind
Member
Notes 8-22-08
Notes 8-22-08
Notes from 2007.
Had the fortune to have some plain 'vanilla' DNA protein profiles of some hybrids to get an idea of what we are looking at with especially Sour Bubble.
Before anyone gets into a tizzy about it, try to understand that unless one has access to a much more expensive DNA testing facility one cannot get an absolute INDIVIDUAL fingerprint on a single plant.
It has been done on a an acacia[I think it was acacia] inthe Southwest desert for a murder trial, that is one instance I know of for sure.
They were able to type that EXACT tree down to some leaves that had fallen in the bed of the suspects pichup.
I have not had and will not have in the forseeable future that LEVEL of DNA test.
But I did have access to a test that is accurate for Genus, species. LL
And for some other data.
The results were transmitted to me via a breakdown of that data, rather than the actual electrophoretic plates which have the company logo on them and would be in bad tatse and stupid for security reasons.
The data was able to test the original progeny from original BOG seeds, and compare to the progeny of the 'F2' generation..i.e. Lifesaver X Lifesaver etc .al.
The result was similar enough on a genetic protein profile to be encouraging
in that it should result in F2 progeny that is [essentially] as close to BOG original seeds as possible, with out recreating his hybrids by breeding the original parental stock again.
Which is not only impossible but would still result in slightly different hybrids.
EXAMPLE:
In breeding my 'double flowered pink' holly hock I found a remarkable specimen
in the progeny.
The original parents were:
SLIGHTLY DOUBLE BURGUNDY HOLLY HOCK
X
DOUBLE LIGHT PINK HOLLY HOCK
What I wanted was more pink or burgundy into a double flower.
I needed 2 doubles to ensure best chance for double progeny[double is recessive]
and burgundy is dominant, so I needed to 'tone it down' with a LIGHT pink.
The result was many doubles with mostly burgundy color, some single burgundy, some single darker pink, and a few NICELY DOUBLE DARK PIN WITH BURGUNDY CENTERS.
SUCCESS!!
NOW THE EXAMPLE:
in doing that same cross AGAIN WITH SAME PARENTS, I got many double pink with burgundy centers
some single pink
some double pink
some single burgundy
some odd half double darker pink.
So as you can see, crossing the EXACT SAME PLANTS 2 TIMES may result in different hybrids.
and so even if we have BOGs original parents it might take us a few tries to get close to what he actually released.
And of course we do not have nor ever will have his original stock.
BUt we can get REMARKABLY CLOSE by crossing his progeny..i.e. Lifesaver X Lifesaver..etc al.
The only other result that we gained in testing was a baseline on some very old pur Sativas from Thailand and some pure Indicas from Afghanistan.
Both circa 1977.
We hope that they had never had an opportunity to be crossed at that point in time as the sites from which they arose were remote.
third less important but interesting result was the presence of Polyploid material.
Which can be seen by the experienced eye[not mine] on electrophoretic 16 stage panel.]]
As typical in first gen survivors extra large leaf progeny is common, but with incidence of extra large stalk/trunk/and or defects.
Subsequent progeny BX to non treated specimens can reduce defects.
end notes,
8-23-08
[notes to s..plate #26 low reg. chromosome polyploidy large packet ]
Sour Bubble pheno 'A''
Notes 8-22-08
Notes from 2007.
Had the fortune to have some plain 'vanilla' DNA protein profiles of some hybrids to get an idea of what we are looking at with especially Sour Bubble.
Before anyone gets into a tizzy about it, try to understand that unless one has access to a much more expensive DNA testing facility one cannot get an absolute INDIVIDUAL fingerprint on a single plant.
It has been done on a an acacia[I think it was acacia] inthe Southwest desert for a murder trial, that is one instance I know of for sure.
They were able to type that EXACT tree down to some leaves that had fallen in the bed of the suspects pichup.
I have not had and will not have in the forseeable future that LEVEL of DNA test.
But I did have access to a test that is accurate for Genus, species. LL
And for some other data.
The results were transmitted to me via a breakdown of that data, rather than the actual electrophoretic plates which have the company logo on them and would be in bad tatse and stupid for security reasons.
The data was able to test the original progeny from original BOG seeds, and compare to the progeny of the 'F2' generation..i.e. Lifesaver X Lifesaver etc .al.
The result was similar enough on a genetic protein profile to be encouraging
in that it should result in F2 progeny that is [essentially] as close to BOG original seeds as possible, with out recreating his hybrids by breeding the original parental stock again.
Which is not only impossible but would still result in slightly different hybrids.
EXAMPLE:
In breeding my 'double flowered pink' holly hock I found a remarkable specimen
in the progeny.
The original parents were:
SLIGHTLY DOUBLE BURGUNDY HOLLY HOCK
X
DOUBLE LIGHT PINK HOLLY HOCK
What I wanted was more pink or burgundy into a double flower.
I needed 2 doubles to ensure best chance for double progeny[double is recessive]
and burgundy is dominant, so I needed to 'tone it down' with a LIGHT pink.
The result was many doubles with mostly burgundy color, some single burgundy, some single darker pink, and a few NICELY DOUBLE DARK PIN WITH BURGUNDY CENTERS.
SUCCESS!!
NOW THE EXAMPLE:
in doing that same cross AGAIN WITH SAME PARENTS, I got many double pink with burgundy centers
some single pink
some double pink
some single burgundy
some odd half double darker pink.
So as you can see, crossing the EXACT SAME PLANTS 2 TIMES may result in different hybrids.
and so even if we have BOGs original parents it might take us a few tries to get close to what he actually released.
And of course we do not have nor ever will have his original stock.
BUt we can get REMARKABLY CLOSE by crossing his progeny..i.e. Lifesaver X Lifesaver..etc al.
The only other result that we gained in testing was a baseline on some very old pur Sativas from Thailand and some pure Indicas from Afghanistan.
Both circa 1977.
We hope that they had never had an opportunity to be crossed at that point in time as the sites from which they arose were remote.
third less important but interesting result was the presence of Polyploid material.
Which can be seen by the experienced eye[not mine] on electrophoretic 16 stage panel.]]
As typical in first gen survivors extra large leaf progeny is common, but with incidence of extra large stalk/trunk/and or defects.
Subsequent progeny BX to non treated specimens can reduce defects.
end notes,
8-23-08
[notes to s..plate #26 low reg. chromosome polyploidy large packet ]
Sour Bubble pheno 'A''
C
Cannabal
I've grown Lifesaver, BogBubble, and Sourbubble so far. I still have few beans of LS.
I grow becouse of broken back and neck, and so far, SB has been the best tasting strain for me. And also, the best medicine.
I had a cutting of Sourbubble and lost it because of my stupidity, and this is what I really regret. Sad. My best plant ever.
Anyways, if u know source for real deal SB beans, tell me, please. I'm tired with pain.
I grow becouse of broken back and neck, and so far, SB has been the best tasting strain for me. And also, the best medicine.
I had a cutting of Sourbubble and lost it because of my stupidity, and this is what I really regret. Sad. My best plant ever.
Anyways, if u know source for real deal SB beans, tell me, please. I'm tired with pain.
P
Peat
Incredible. Good work, SW.southwind said:
I've heard this before about many diff strains / breeders. And it''s true, from my limited experience. But, in the back of my mind, I always wondered if it was just another canna-myth
I am more convinced than ever, now.
Good news!
...sounds promising...
third less important but interesting result was the presence of Polyploid material.
Which can be seen by the experienced eye[not mine] on electrophoretic 16 stage panel.]]
As typical in first gen survivors extra large leaf progeny is common, but with incidence of extra large stalk/trunk/and or defects.
Subsequent progeny BX to non treated specimens can reduce defects.
end notes,
8-23-08
[notes to s..plate #26 low reg. chromosome polyploidy large packet ]
Sour Bubble pheno 'A''
Thanks for your work SW!
I hope all is well.
Take care.
Here's a pic of my first Female SBbx3
(...lookin' forward to seein' what all da fuss is about...)
S-O-U-R---B-U-B-B-L-E
S-O-U-R---B-U-B-B-L-E
S-O-U-R---B-U-B-B-L-E
P
Peat
LOL...ain heard dat 1 b4...southwind said:
It'd be my pleasure to have her swing in your backyard!
Unfortunately, I am but a lost, ignorant noob ...with a very stoner-steep learning curve...and lots of learning to do...
By the time I get 50 posts, maybe I'll be more functional...
She seems to root easy enough...100% with peat pellets
Just recently transplanted to 1 quart pots.
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Wow Southwind,
I am going to have to break out the botany books and read up on the subjects. Some of the plants I have shown are next generation past originals, and they definately look much like the parents. And potency has not deminished either. Exceeded my expectations indeed.
I am going to have to break out the botany books and read up on the subjects. Some of the plants I have shown are next generation past originals, and they definately look much like the parents. And potency has not deminished either. Exceeded my expectations indeed.
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All my plants were grown with BOG's soil recipe and nute regimen. After all, who should no whats best for his plants than the bubblegum guru himself.
southwind
Member
I agree.
I agree.
I agree absolutely. I think I shoudl go back to basics maybe and just run BOG soil with the BOG hybrids.
I think, well I KNOW, I have it on disk..but which disk?
Someone removed my labels from my extra hard drives.
sw
I agree.
I agree absolutely. I think I shoudl go back to basics maybe and just run BOG soil with the BOG hybrids.
I think, well I KNOW, I have it on disk..but which disk?
Someone removed my labels from my extra hard drives.
sw
Care Free 1 said:All my plants were grown with BOG's soil recipe and nute regimen. After all, who should no whats best for his plants than the bubblegum guru himself.
Hi Southwind,
I follow BOG's soil and nute recipe. I dont always use WalMart soil, and I sometimes think the measurement he uses for blood and bone meal is extreme, but it works well for his strains. I have to back off a little on the blood and bone meals with more sensative strains, but I always add it. Seams like additional Dolomite Lime is always necessary with organic soils also. I PM'd you his Overgrow posting from 2001.
Take Care,
CF1
I follow BOG's soil and nute recipe. I dont always use WalMart soil, and I sometimes think the measurement he uses for blood and bone meal is extreme, but it works well for his strains. I have to back off a little on the blood and bone meals with more sensative strains, but I always add it. Seams like additional Dolomite Lime is always necessary with organic soils also. I PM'd you his Overgrow posting from 2001.
Take Care,
CF1
