Care Free 1 said:More clones off the same mother. One of the best mother plants I had.
i want that!
-
ICMag with help from Landrace Warden and The Vault is running a NEW contest in November! You can check it here. Prizes are seeds & forum premium access. Come join in!
BOG Seeds Sour Bubble.
- Thread starter southwind
- Start date
i want that!
nycdfan042
If all goes well this year, preservation of these plants will setup a long future for them. Lets hope for a good male and lots of seed this year.
If all goes well this year, preservation of these plants will setup a long future for them. Lets hope for a good male and lots of seed this year.
This year I will go full measures of the soil recipe to see if they can take it. I will see if I can get maximum production and potency in 7 gallon pots in flower.
You better be sitting down after you take a hit from this one. You'll probably be there for a while.
Last edited:
More clones early in flower from killer mother plant. That mother kicked out 40 plants before lost.
Intense leaf structure.
Intense leaf structure.
Last edited:
southwind
Member
Sour B..Care Free..
Sour B..Care Free..
As always Carefree 1 I am amazed at the colors your plants get, it reminds me of the old pics, T had.
THAT BLUE!!
Is that how they look in sunlight?
Amazing.
I am doing something different than you, I must be, mine are usually green..I never flush though..I use soil and its a little hard for me to take them somewhere to flush.
*********************************************************
NOTES 8-26-08
Veg cab REBUILT, finished termite treatment, destroyed all old parts that may be infected with 'xx'
tore rest of flower down.
sent last of BOG seeds out, making total of 560.
resnt several,non delivery issue.
SPIDER MITE THREAD CONTINUES/ REC'D FLORAMITE/HOT SHOT/ORTHENE.
Result of NEEM test on Central California 'Super Mite' this mte has become resistant to many insecticides due to overuse of same in Central CA.
Common 2 spotted spider mite dubbed 'Super Mite' by University of California circa 2006??????
OTF:
Thais were dosed again on sunday w / bushmaster.
clones taken of THAI phenos 1,2 and 3.
partner took clones of male THAI. storing in fridge.
triple dose of all fertilizers in OTF.
Time to set up INJECTOR.
also TOP DRESS for flower.
dig in to first few inches.
back pack and hike in 25 lbs each.w/ 10 lbs.of dried mollasses.
last of weak specimens, destroyed , noted.
aborting 12 seed runs/ no outlet.
interest in BOG project wains.
with new veg cab will do a few big runs of all types not run yet and then wind BOG project down.
try to find help soon, turn over alot to able and willing party.
*(((((((((((((((((((((((**********
personal.diary items. might as well do it here.keep track of this crap.
Doctors say kidney not doing well with continued nephrolith production, nephrons damaged.
may rethink transplant. with relatives kidney.
prep for tissue /blood type match.
part of stone in ureter breaks off about 8-19-08 and becomes lodged in urethra. second half partially obstructs ureter with some liquid backup in renal pelvis w/infection of calyces.
antibiotics effective, infection gone as of yeterday morning after meeting w/urology.
stone is moving, if not passed into bladder by thurs will remove standard procedure, entry through penis into bladder/urethra and use french basket for lithotripsy/removal.
should be 2 day hospital stay total.
note: feels like its passing though.
***)))))))))))))))))))
Sour B..Care Free..
As always Carefree 1 I am amazed at the colors your plants get, it reminds me of the old pics, T had.
THAT BLUE!!
Is that how they look in sunlight?
Amazing.
I am doing something different than you, I must be, mine are usually green..I never flush though..I use soil and its a little hard for me to take them somewhere to flush.
*********************************************************
NOTES 8-26-08
Veg cab REBUILT, finished termite treatment, destroyed all old parts that may be infected with 'xx'
tore rest of flower down.
sent last of BOG seeds out, making total of 560.
resnt several,non delivery issue.
SPIDER MITE THREAD CONTINUES/ REC'D FLORAMITE/HOT SHOT/ORTHENE.
Result of NEEM test on Central California 'Super Mite' this mte has become resistant to many insecticides due to overuse of same in Central CA.
Common 2 spotted spider mite dubbed 'Super Mite' by University of California circa 2006??????
OTF:
Thais were dosed again on sunday w / bushmaster.
clones taken of THAI phenos 1,2 and 3.
partner took clones of male THAI. storing in fridge.
triple dose of all fertilizers in OTF.
Time to set up INJECTOR.
also TOP DRESS for flower.
dig in to first few inches.
back pack and hike in 25 lbs each.w/ 10 lbs.of dried mollasses.
last of weak specimens, destroyed , noted.
aborting 12 seed runs/ no outlet.
interest in BOG project wains.
with new veg cab will do a few big runs of all types not run yet and then wind BOG project down.
try to find help soon, turn over alot to able and willing party.
*(((((((((((((((((((((((**********
personal.diary items. might as well do it here.keep track of this crap.
Doctors say kidney not doing well with continued nephrolith production, nephrons damaged.
may rethink transplant. with relatives kidney.
prep for tissue /blood type match.
part of stone in ureter breaks off about 8-19-08 and becomes lodged in urethra. second half partially obstructs ureter with some liquid backup in renal pelvis w/infection of calyces.
antibiotics effective, infection gone as of yeterday morning after meeting w/urology.
stone is moving, if not passed into bladder by thurs will remove standard procedure, entry through penis into bladder/urethra and use french basket for lithotripsy/removal.
should be 2 day hospital stay total.
note: feels like its passing though.
***)))))))))))))))))))
Last edited:
P
Peat
Take care of yourself, SW
Good luck to you.
CF1,
Do you re-use your BOG soil?
If so, any special prep for re-use?
Good luck to you.
CF1,
Do you re-use your BOG soil?
If so, any special prep for re-use?
Hi Southwind,
Most of the pheno's you see here in this thread were from several years of selection. Keeping the ones that have high potency and coloring, and culling the less attractive and mutated pheno's. Even the runts have high potency though. I have alot of green pheno's also that are kick ass, but I select alot that have the dark blue coloration in veg and clone off those.
Most of the Sour Bubbles I have grown start out with a bluish tinge, and really color up from the low temps during our winter grows. Inside temps in the low 60's under 1000 watt bulbs. The big 1k bulbs really make a difference from what I have seen, and you can see the results. Some of them really put off amazing color under these conditions.
I believe you really need to incorporate blood and bone meal into your soil mix (and dont forget the Lime), and have low temps to really bring out the colors. I dont think I would get the same results with soil right out of the bag. I use BOG's nute regimen of Pure Blend Grow In veg, Superthrive, Fox Farm Bloom, Pure Blend Bloom, Earth Juce Bloom in flower. Pretty much just as BOG said to do.
Peat
I never reuse soil. It's just to much trouble IMO. I will reuse it for outside garden and patio potted plants, and throw away the rest.
This is a typical mother room. You can easily spot the blue color Sour Bub pheno's
Most of the pheno's you see here in this thread were from several years of selection. Keeping the ones that have high potency and coloring, and culling the less attractive and mutated pheno's. Even the runts have high potency though. I have alot of green pheno's also that are kick ass, but I select alot that have the dark blue coloration in veg and clone off those.
Most of the Sour Bubbles I have grown start out with a bluish tinge, and really color up from the low temps during our winter grows. Inside temps in the low 60's under 1000 watt bulbs. The big 1k bulbs really make a difference from what I have seen, and you can see the results. Some of them really put off amazing color under these conditions.
I believe you really need to incorporate blood and bone meal into your soil mix (and dont forget the Lime), and have low temps to really bring out the colors. I dont think I would get the same results with soil right out of the bag. I use BOG's nute regimen of Pure Blend Grow In veg, Superthrive, Fox Farm Bloom, Pure Blend Bloom, Earth Juce Bloom in flower. Pretty much just as BOG said to do.
Peat
I never reuse soil. It's just to much trouble IMO. I will reuse it for outside garden and patio potted plants, and throw away the rest.
This is a typical mother room. You can easily spot the blue color Sour Bub pheno's
O
olddrifter66
S.W. I am so sorry to see that you are going through a rough patch. I can't imagine the kind of pain you feel, but I certainly want it to wain. Project or not......keep up your positive vibe (as if you have a choice). You don't have anything to prove so don't....if you need rest..then rest.
As far as those damned Spider Mites.....I use a habanero pepper spray and so far it has proven to chase away spiders, mites, aphids, earwigs, beetles, dogs, cats, rodents and people from any enclosed space. I have used it outdoors on bees and wasps with 50\50 results.
4 large habanero peppers (some fruit markets will let you cherry pick the rotten ones from their display bin)
2 cups of water.
1 pump sprayer
1 blender
Blend water and peppers for 1 minute. Let stand for 5 minutes. Blend again for 1 minute and strain into sprayer.
Indoor Room:
Spray around the baseboards and run...(The mist gets through just about any mask outside of a self-contained gas mask.....really!)
Return later and mist plants just before dark cycle and rinse next day. If in home.....get your vacuum out of the closet as you will have a lot of strange visitors running for their lives....check bed before getting in.....you will literally have bed bugs.
Outdoors:
Become a weatherman....or weathergirl and make sure the wind is in your favor (experience...) spray as much of the plant as possible. Spray again in 48 hours...then again as necessary.
This worked for me over the course of several seasons so I'm sold on it. You may wish to make your own judgment as should be expected.
Get well my friend.....please.
As far as those damned Spider Mites.....I use a habanero pepper spray and so far it has proven to chase away spiders, mites, aphids, earwigs, beetles, dogs, cats, rodents and people from any enclosed space. I have used it outdoors on bees and wasps with 50\50 results.
4 large habanero peppers (some fruit markets will let you cherry pick the rotten ones from their display bin)
2 cups of water.
1 pump sprayer
1 blender
Blend water and peppers for 1 minute. Let stand for 5 minutes. Blend again for 1 minute and strain into sprayer.
Indoor Room:
Spray around the baseboards and run...(The mist gets through just about any mask outside of a self-contained gas mask.....really!)
Return later and mist plants just before dark cycle and rinse next day. If in home.....get your vacuum out of the closet as you will have a lot of strange visitors running for their lives....check bed before getting in.....you will literally have bed bugs.
Outdoors:
Become a weatherman....or weathergirl and make sure the wind is in your favor (experience...) spray as much of the plant as possible. Spray again in 48 hours...then again as necessary.
This worked for me over the course of several seasons so I'm sold on it. You may wish to make your own judgment as should be expected.
Get well my friend.....please.
Last edited:
O
olddrifter66
Care Free, phoenominal pics man......those are some beautiful ladies indeed.
O
olddrifter66
I hope this is not inappropriate....I will remove if it is.
I hope this is not inappropriate....I will remove if it is.
BOG's ORGANIC SOIL GROWING METHOD
I hope these three informational pieces don't contradict each other
I hope this helps some new growers get started. BOG
Feeding and Mix... I use Wal-Mart Continuous Feeding formula potting soil with 5-10% perlite added for aeration and drainage. I add 2 cups of bone and blood meal to every 10 gallons of soil. I feed Pure Blend grow in veg and I transplant 3 times. Starting in 1 qt pots then 2 gallon pots then 4 gallon pots.
I transplant to 4 gallon pots when going to flowering. At this time I give a strong dose of foxfarm bloom liquid bat guano product, 2/3 cup to a gallon. This is a one time heavy nitrogen feed as transplanted and going into high light flowering room. (all HPS 35 watts/sq.ft.)
Often I let them flower until sexed before the final transplant and nitrogen treatment. It doesn't burn them and they shoot in the first 2 weeks of flowering a lot. Capturing this growth "shoot" as I call it is the key to big buds IMHO. Health and vigor is maintained by lots of continued rooting through flower.
I also use some CO2 in flowering and some superthrive once or twice while in flower at a very weak rate. In flower I feed the first half of flowering with Pure Blend Bloom which has half strength nitrogen compared to their vegging formula. Then the second half of flowering I use Earth juice Bloom to feed as it has no nitrogen and my pots still have some.
SubCool taught me to premix my earth juice bloom 20 hours in advance to reduce its acidity and this has helped me feed more without burning them.
My Basic Tips... BUSHY’S GROW TIPS FOR BEGINNER INDOOR GARDENERS -- By BushyOlderGrower updated 5/2001
Want to start an indoor garden? I have a few basic tips written down for anyone to view here for free. These techniques work for all herb growing and are intended to aid legal growers to produce the high quality medical marijuana that they need. Anyone can grow in a closet, spare room, attic or basement. Want to learn more?
Starting Seeds is easy, just get some good ones first and if you are growing indoors the type will matter less than if growing outdoors but genetics is important to crop quality. Good herb seeds will grow good herb, you can grow just about any variety indoors. Seeds can be safely obtained through http://www.seedsdirect.to and Whitelable bubblegum are an excellent choice for the indoor gardener and Nirvana seeds are very reasonably priced and surprisingly good genetics also.
Assuming you have seeds we need to soak them in Kleenex in a covered bowl wet but not drowning and 80 degrees for 2-3 days till seeds have 1/2 inch tails, then we plant. One seed in a 1 Qt. pot and moisten well don’t plant too deep be gentle with them. They will need light when they are sprouted. Alaska Start-up is good for seedlings and transplants, just use when little.
Soil Mix is easy get Sam’s Choice, Magic Earth with fertilizer (.09-.06-.05) in already and mix 2/3 cup of blood meal and 2/3 cup of bone meal into each 3 gal pot. By adding 2 tablespoons of dry lime to mix you help flowering and avoid over-acidity. Wal-Mart has this kind and it is cheap! Many prefer to use 5 gallon pots. You should add 10% perlite for good air to the roots and good drainage.
Stir and plant seed into this, fill pot well and wet well first time, we will supplement with organic fertilizers later. Black Gold is best gro mix but heavier soils are better than lighter ones. Shultz pro mix is expensive but highly recommended, Black Magic has also done well for some expert growers. I like Wal-mart continuous feeding formula soil
Watering is a skill that must be learned, it is crucial to good health as too much and the roots will drown or too little and the plants will wilt. If leaves are curling or your stems rot you have insufficient drainage, make sure you have holes in your pots.
Too dry shows up as drooping leaves then wilting.
Usually watering every other day, about quart if plant is big,(after transplant to big pot) is average but heat, rate of growth and soil mix will be a variable. Mist the plants 2 times a day in the vegetative cycle. Stop misting when flowering to avoid rot and fungus that can wreck your herbs. Use a fan or two to exchange the hot for cool fresh air on them.
Lighting is cheap to start out get a couple 4 foot shop lights with grow tubes or GE kitchen and Bath 40 watt will work, keep 3 inches from light on 24 hours a day, until flowering desired. You will need better lights to finish indoors will need metal halide 400 or 1000 watt to grow well and in flowering will need at least a 600 sodium light or conversion bulb for metal halide ballast.
You can run 3000 watts, 12 hrs a day, and not get too high.
Lighting Requirements are about 35 watts per square foot of garden but even higher amounts like 50 watts per sq. foot will be worth it in flowering, the more light the better but watch out for heat damage. Horizontal fixtures need less vertical space. Vertical fixtures cost less and are more efficient if you have the space.
Electrical requirements age good 110 or 220 volt access, never overload a line causing a low voltage situation as this will burn up your wiring and equipment as well as creating a hazard. Lights are safe and the cost to run is about $15/month per 1000 watts used 12 hrs per day. Use your power wisely and you can produce high quality sinse at 5% of its value! How much do you spend on pot?
Pruning is important to maximize yield. You just pinch the top off when plant is 8 inches tall and watch it bush out, this will double yield! Some like the big cola though so whatever you want is ok, it is just that I feel indoor growers must be most efficient growers, outdoors plants may not need pruning at all but indoor plants do unless very short and bushy. Some plants genetics require no pruning to bush out nicely.
Don’t prune much after flowering is started. Leave fan leaves on, as plant will need its leaves to grow big buds. Some prune to increase THC production after flowering starts but this is an advanced technique I will not go into further here as these are basic tips. Remember this! Healthy plants make great herb! Prune off low fan leaves as they yellow.
Light Cycles are the hours of light and darkness in the grow rooms. A growing room is 24 hours light all the time, (at least 18 hours must be lit out of 24 in veg) it is just 1 long ass day to the plants, and they will grow fastest this way. When as big as desired, about 1-2 ft. then trigger flowering. We shock the plants into flowering by putting them on 12/12 light cycle.
By putting plants in this cycle, 12 hours day and 12 hours night we will see flowers starting in 2-3 weeks. Flowering usually takes about 7-8 weeks on this light cycle. They will gain another 50%-100% in height after triggering or might double in height! So trigger when the plants are small or you waste time in growth. 2 ft. tall max.
Males and Females and telling them apart is important, you don’t want any males, they are worthless, like most of us, (haha). The male shows his flowers first is skinnier and taller often, will get little balls under each branch, if balls open into little white flowers too late! He has pollinated females and ruined crop! Hash can be made from males if you have a bunch of them.
Females have a hair coming out like a virgins pubic hair, thin and delicate will have lots of tiny sacs with hair coming out of each one. This is the female the sweet virgin that is desired. Growing all females is possible but is more advanced technique I will not go into further here. Cloning and all female seeds will increase the efficiency of your garden.
CO2 is the gas that plants need most to grow, the roots need to get oxygen. Supplementing CO2 is most needed in high light gardens where lots of plants have limited fresh air. You produce CO2 when you breathe near your plants but they may need more, talk to your virgins, exercise with them or just shoot them some CO2. Always have a small fan on plants when the lights are on too. Fresh air! Use a bike inflate gun to manually spray co2 if you want to increase flower production.
Finishing the crop is important, as any good weed must be harvested at right time and cured properly. The female buds will have their hairs often turn a color before done, wait they need more time, wait until the hairs start to curl and die, you will see large balls of resin glistening on the tops, the tips of small flower leaves will be encrusted with small stalks of resins. They will be frosty looking!!
They can be seen easily with a magnifying glass or the naked eye if sharp. Watch the heads grow big and when the resin color changes to a little cloudy it is time to cut the plant and hang to air dry in the dark. I will take a week or so. Now you may enjoy the fruits of your labors! Well worth it too. Ask me any questions and I will try to elaborate further.
Curing is easy. You just cut the plant at start of light cycle and hang upside-down for about a week. The slower it dries, the better it will taste and the more potent it will be. This is the time when odors can be a problem if you have many plants. Some growers dry a few days on the branches then place in glass jars with closed lids, open each day, slow 30 day process.
Please do all you can to help promote the freedom we have always prided ourselves for and died for. All people deserve the right to choose what they grow and use as medicine, please support efforts to legalize marijuana and end this senseless war on our people. NORML is working to get medical marijuana on your ballot!
Well THAT’S ALL FOLKS… just trying to save the world by doing my part to free the herb! These tips are free for all and I welcome positive suggestions from other experienced growers.
Peace and Love to our green planet and all its creatures!!!!
A quote to remember if you’re not sure if it is right to grow one of God’s good herbs. “ONE HAS THE MORAL RESPONCIBILITY TO DISOBEY UNJUST LAWS” DR. Martin Luther King Jr. We must also be willing to accept the punishment if caught but we can make a statement and fight. I advocate moving to a state where the growing of medical marijuana is allowed.
Also when Thoreau was jailed for refusal to pay a poll tax to vote and for making a fuss, Emerson said to him “Shame on you for being here” and, and Thoreau replied “no, shame on you for not being here.” The point was that true activists do fight oppression by risking their freedom. As in civil disobedience or free speech.
Remember if you think you are safe, “There is no armor against fate. Death puts its icy hands on Kings”. So since we can be gone, just that quick, like a snap of the fingers, fear not for to fear is a waste. “A coward dies a thousand deaths, a brave man dies but once”. NO FEAR. BOG
Bonanza of Green, Bonanza of Green (BOG)
Many growers think that to be a successful indoor grower you have to go hydro. I would like to present an argument for my organic system.
First of all you should refer to Bushy's Indoor organic tips for Beginners in the basic grow room.
All knowledge is practical and has worked well. It is a very simple organic system that is much easier to master quickly than Hydro systems. No meters required, hand watering allowed. This system is cheap and easy to set up but it requires some space, some electricity, and some work.
First the grow room should have at least a 400 watt metal halide light and a few flors for clones and/or seedlings. A 1000 watt MH is preferred depending on the size of your flowering room. This with a good cool deluxe horticultural bulb will work well.
400 watt in the grow room is minimal for a 1800 watt flowering room to stay maximized. Under the 2 or 3 (4 ft. fluorescents start your seeds/clones) keep the growing tips about 1-3 inches max from the light tubes if they are regular 40 watt flor tubes.
I start mine in about 1 Qt pots as seedlings or clones ( I do both) I usually start about 10 every 2 weeks. The perpetual harvest is never all at once, it is more of a production line system, with continual harvesting. As the seedlings reach about 8 inches they are moved into the bigger grow area with the 1000 watt metal halide light. Soon they are big enough to transplant into 3-5 gallon pots, depending on size plants desired.
After transplant into big pots the plants need to veg for about another 1-2 weeks until fully or mostly rooted. Rushing this process will hurt eventual yields. I like bigger plants, this is nothing like SOG. If you want to make hundreds of clones and go hydro then SOG is a high yielding system but I like killer larger buds.
The plants spend about 5 weeks in vegetative stage. When moved to the flowering room they are rooted into large pots and usually about 2 feet tall (this varies with your set up, head room, genetics, etc.) At this point I double pot my plants. This means placing the 2 to 4 gallon pot it is rooted in, into another larger pot of soil. The plant will root through holes in the bottom of the original pot. Have 4 inch holes minimum and wet the soil mix in both pots thoroughly. The continued rooting will extend growth and increase yields due to added health and vigor.
If you have used good soil mix (refer to Basic Tips) and the plant is healthy it should be shooting in fast growth as it goes into flowering. Amazing beautiful bud growth will be seen if all is well. Healthy plants will stay dark green until late in flowering, keep feeding them organic ferts with some Nitrogen in them like Pure Blend or add grow fert to the no Nitro fert if the plant gets yellow. Earth Juice products and Pure Blend as well as Fox Farm Bloom is available at http://www.discountgarden.com
Make sure you add some CO2 to the air twice a day at least in flowering. I water every other day usually and I feed them every other feeding generally. Keep them happy and large yields can be obtained in a 3 month total grow and veg time. 5 oz per plant is not uncommon. Under a 1800 watt flowering room (3-600 watt hps lights) about 20 plants of this size can be grown. This means 3 plants per week to harvest. Ideally it is possible under about a 3K system to grow 4-10 oz of organic dried bud per week!
It takes work but the product can be unsurpassed! There is nothing about hydro that makes the pot better. So if you are growing for quality but think indoor has to be hydro, think again! BOG is my Advice
My methods made me the bubblegum guru because of resining like this... HeeHee
I hope this is not inappropriate....I will remove if it is.
BOG's ORGANIC SOIL GROWING METHOD
I hope these three informational pieces don't contradict each other
I hope this helps some new growers get started. BOG
Feeding and Mix... I use Wal-Mart Continuous Feeding formula potting soil with 5-10% perlite added for aeration and drainage. I add 2 cups of bone and blood meal to every 10 gallons of soil. I feed Pure Blend grow in veg and I transplant 3 times. Starting in 1 qt pots then 2 gallon pots then 4 gallon pots.
I transplant to 4 gallon pots when going to flowering. At this time I give a strong dose of foxfarm bloom liquid bat guano product, 2/3 cup to a gallon. This is a one time heavy nitrogen feed as transplanted and going into high light flowering room. (all HPS 35 watts/sq.ft.)
Often I let them flower until sexed before the final transplant and nitrogen treatment. It doesn't burn them and they shoot in the first 2 weeks of flowering a lot. Capturing this growth "shoot" as I call it is the key to big buds IMHO. Health and vigor is maintained by lots of continued rooting through flower.
I also use some CO2 in flowering and some superthrive once or twice while in flower at a very weak rate. In flower I feed the first half of flowering with Pure Blend Bloom which has half strength nitrogen compared to their vegging formula. Then the second half of flowering I use Earth juice Bloom to feed as it has no nitrogen and my pots still have some.
SubCool taught me to premix my earth juice bloom 20 hours in advance to reduce its acidity and this has helped me feed more without burning them.
My Basic Tips... BUSHY’S GROW TIPS FOR BEGINNER INDOOR GARDENERS -- By BushyOlderGrower updated 5/2001
Want to start an indoor garden? I have a few basic tips written down for anyone to view here for free. These techniques work for all herb growing and are intended to aid legal growers to produce the high quality medical marijuana that they need. Anyone can grow in a closet, spare room, attic or basement. Want to learn more?
Starting Seeds is easy, just get some good ones first and if you are growing indoors the type will matter less than if growing outdoors but genetics is important to crop quality. Good herb seeds will grow good herb, you can grow just about any variety indoors. Seeds can be safely obtained through http://www.seedsdirect.to and Whitelable bubblegum are an excellent choice for the indoor gardener and Nirvana seeds are very reasonably priced and surprisingly good genetics also.
Assuming you have seeds we need to soak them in Kleenex in a covered bowl wet but not drowning and 80 degrees for 2-3 days till seeds have 1/2 inch tails, then we plant. One seed in a 1 Qt. pot and moisten well don’t plant too deep be gentle with them. They will need light when they are sprouted. Alaska Start-up is good for seedlings and transplants, just use when little.
Soil Mix is easy get Sam’s Choice, Magic Earth with fertilizer (.09-.06-.05) in already and mix 2/3 cup of blood meal and 2/3 cup of bone meal into each 3 gal pot. By adding 2 tablespoons of dry lime to mix you help flowering and avoid over-acidity. Wal-Mart has this kind and it is cheap! Many prefer to use 5 gallon pots. You should add 10% perlite for good air to the roots and good drainage.
Stir and plant seed into this, fill pot well and wet well first time, we will supplement with organic fertilizers later. Black Gold is best gro mix but heavier soils are better than lighter ones. Shultz pro mix is expensive but highly recommended, Black Magic has also done well for some expert growers. I like Wal-mart continuous feeding formula soil
Watering is a skill that must be learned, it is crucial to good health as too much and the roots will drown or too little and the plants will wilt. If leaves are curling or your stems rot you have insufficient drainage, make sure you have holes in your pots.
Too dry shows up as drooping leaves then wilting.
Usually watering every other day, about quart if plant is big,(after transplant to big pot) is average but heat, rate of growth and soil mix will be a variable. Mist the plants 2 times a day in the vegetative cycle. Stop misting when flowering to avoid rot and fungus that can wreck your herbs. Use a fan or two to exchange the hot for cool fresh air on them.
Lighting is cheap to start out get a couple 4 foot shop lights with grow tubes or GE kitchen and Bath 40 watt will work, keep 3 inches from light on 24 hours a day, until flowering desired. You will need better lights to finish indoors will need metal halide 400 or 1000 watt to grow well and in flowering will need at least a 600 sodium light or conversion bulb for metal halide ballast.
You can run 3000 watts, 12 hrs a day, and not get too high.
Lighting Requirements are about 35 watts per square foot of garden but even higher amounts like 50 watts per sq. foot will be worth it in flowering, the more light the better but watch out for heat damage. Horizontal fixtures need less vertical space. Vertical fixtures cost less and are more efficient if you have the space.
Electrical requirements age good 110 or 220 volt access, never overload a line causing a low voltage situation as this will burn up your wiring and equipment as well as creating a hazard. Lights are safe and the cost to run is about $15/month per 1000 watts used 12 hrs per day. Use your power wisely and you can produce high quality sinse at 5% of its value! How much do you spend on pot?
Pruning is important to maximize yield. You just pinch the top off when plant is 8 inches tall and watch it bush out, this will double yield! Some like the big cola though so whatever you want is ok, it is just that I feel indoor growers must be most efficient growers, outdoors plants may not need pruning at all but indoor plants do unless very short and bushy. Some plants genetics require no pruning to bush out nicely.
Don’t prune much after flowering is started. Leave fan leaves on, as plant will need its leaves to grow big buds. Some prune to increase THC production after flowering starts but this is an advanced technique I will not go into further here as these are basic tips. Remember this! Healthy plants make great herb! Prune off low fan leaves as they yellow.
Light Cycles are the hours of light and darkness in the grow rooms. A growing room is 24 hours light all the time, (at least 18 hours must be lit out of 24 in veg) it is just 1 long ass day to the plants, and they will grow fastest this way. When as big as desired, about 1-2 ft. then trigger flowering. We shock the plants into flowering by putting them on 12/12 light cycle.
By putting plants in this cycle, 12 hours day and 12 hours night we will see flowers starting in 2-3 weeks. Flowering usually takes about 7-8 weeks on this light cycle. They will gain another 50%-100% in height after triggering or might double in height! So trigger when the plants are small or you waste time in growth. 2 ft. tall max.
Males and Females and telling them apart is important, you don’t want any males, they are worthless, like most of us, (haha). The male shows his flowers first is skinnier and taller often, will get little balls under each branch, if balls open into little white flowers too late! He has pollinated females and ruined crop! Hash can be made from males if you have a bunch of them.
Females have a hair coming out like a virgins pubic hair, thin and delicate will have lots of tiny sacs with hair coming out of each one. This is the female the sweet virgin that is desired. Growing all females is possible but is more advanced technique I will not go into further here. Cloning and all female seeds will increase the efficiency of your garden.
CO2 is the gas that plants need most to grow, the roots need to get oxygen. Supplementing CO2 is most needed in high light gardens where lots of plants have limited fresh air. You produce CO2 when you breathe near your plants but they may need more, talk to your virgins, exercise with them or just shoot them some CO2. Always have a small fan on plants when the lights are on too. Fresh air! Use a bike inflate gun to manually spray co2 if you want to increase flower production.
Finishing the crop is important, as any good weed must be harvested at right time and cured properly. The female buds will have their hairs often turn a color before done, wait they need more time, wait until the hairs start to curl and die, you will see large balls of resin glistening on the tops, the tips of small flower leaves will be encrusted with small stalks of resins. They will be frosty looking!!
They can be seen easily with a magnifying glass or the naked eye if sharp. Watch the heads grow big and when the resin color changes to a little cloudy it is time to cut the plant and hang to air dry in the dark. I will take a week or so. Now you may enjoy the fruits of your labors! Well worth it too. Ask me any questions and I will try to elaborate further.
Curing is easy. You just cut the plant at start of light cycle and hang upside-down for about a week. The slower it dries, the better it will taste and the more potent it will be. This is the time when odors can be a problem if you have many plants. Some growers dry a few days on the branches then place in glass jars with closed lids, open each day, slow 30 day process.
Please do all you can to help promote the freedom we have always prided ourselves for and died for. All people deserve the right to choose what they grow and use as medicine, please support efforts to legalize marijuana and end this senseless war on our people. NORML is working to get medical marijuana on your ballot!
Well THAT’S ALL FOLKS… just trying to save the world by doing my part to free the herb! These tips are free for all and I welcome positive suggestions from other experienced growers.
Peace and Love to our green planet and all its creatures!!!!
A quote to remember if you’re not sure if it is right to grow one of God’s good herbs. “ONE HAS THE MORAL RESPONCIBILITY TO DISOBEY UNJUST LAWS” DR. Martin Luther King Jr. We must also be willing to accept the punishment if caught but we can make a statement and fight. I advocate moving to a state where the growing of medical marijuana is allowed.
Also when Thoreau was jailed for refusal to pay a poll tax to vote and for making a fuss, Emerson said to him “Shame on you for being here” and, and Thoreau replied “no, shame on you for not being here.” The point was that true activists do fight oppression by risking their freedom. As in civil disobedience or free speech.
Remember if you think you are safe, “There is no armor against fate. Death puts its icy hands on Kings”. So since we can be gone, just that quick, like a snap of the fingers, fear not for to fear is a waste. “A coward dies a thousand deaths, a brave man dies but once”. NO FEAR. BOG
Bonanza of Green, Bonanza of Green (BOG)
Many growers think that to be a successful indoor grower you have to go hydro. I would like to present an argument for my organic system.
First of all you should refer to Bushy's Indoor organic tips for Beginners in the basic grow room.
All knowledge is practical and has worked well. It is a very simple organic system that is much easier to master quickly than Hydro systems. No meters required, hand watering allowed. This system is cheap and easy to set up but it requires some space, some electricity, and some work.
First the grow room should have at least a 400 watt metal halide light and a few flors for clones and/or seedlings. A 1000 watt MH is preferred depending on the size of your flowering room. This with a good cool deluxe horticultural bulb will work well.
400 watt in the grow room is minimal for a 1800 watt flowering room to stay maximized. Under the 2 or 3 (4 ft. fluorescents start your seeds/clones) keep the growing tips about 1-3 inches max from the light tubes if they are regular 40 watt flor tubes.
I start mine in about 1 Qt pots as seedlings or clones ( I do both) I usually start about 10 every 2 weeks. The perpetual harvest is never all at once, it is more of a production line system, with continual harvesting. As the seedlings reach about 8 inches they are moved into the bigger grow area with the 1000 watt metal halide light. Soon they are big enough to transplant into 3-5 gallon pots, depending on size plants desired.
After transplant into big pots the plants need to veg for about another 1-2 weeks until fully or mostly rooted. Rushing this process will hurt eventual yields. I like bigger plants, this is nothing like SOG. If you want to make hundreds of clones and go hydro then SOG is a high yielding system but I like killer larger buds.
The plants spend about 5 weeks in vegetative stage. When moved to the flowering room they are rooted into large pots and usually about 2 feet tall (this varies with your set up, head room, genetics, etc.) At this point I double pot my plants. This means placing the 2 to 4 gallon pot it is rooted in, into another larger pot of soil. The plant will root through holes in the bottom of the original pot. Have 4 inch holes minimum and wet the soil mix in both pots thoroughly. The continued rooting will extend growth and increase yields due to added health and vigor.
If you have used good soil mix (refer to Basic Tips) and the plant is healthy it should be shooting in fast growth as it goes into flowering. Amazing beautiful bud growth will be seen if all is well. Healthy plants will stay dark green until late in flowering, keep feeding them organic ferts with some Nitrogen in them like Pure Blend or add grow fert to the no Nitro fert if the plant gets yellow. Earth Juice products and Pure Blend as well as Fox Farm Bloom is available at http://www.discountgarden.com
Make sure you add some CO2 to the air twice a day at least in flowering. I water every other day usually and I feed them every other feeding generally. Keep them happy and large yields can be obtained in a 3 month total grow and veg time. 5 oz per plant is not uncommon. Under a 1800 watt flowering room (3-600 watt hps lights) about 20 plants of this size can be grown. This means 3 plants per week to harvest. Ideally it is possible under about a 3K system to grow 4-10 oz of organic dried bud per week!
It takes work but the product can be unsurpassed! There is nothing about hydro that makes the pot better. So if you are growing for quality but think indoor has to be hydro, think again! BOG is my Advice
My methods made me the bubblegum guru because of resining like this... HeeHee
Last edited:
olddrifter66
Contained within those paragraphs you posted are what I have used since 2001 to grow my plants. I do make judgement calls on many of the items though.
I found $8 bags of organic soil at Armstrong nursury that are better than Walmarts continuous feed soil. I dont always use the extreme dose of bone and blood meal, but I usually stick to the basic theme of whats contained in those sentences, and it serves me well. I grow alot more than just BOG strains with his mixture as well.
Here are more Sour Bub clones from different mothers showing some of the color variations.
Contained within those paragraphs you posted are what I have used since 2001 to grow my plants. I do make judgement calls on many of the items though.
I found $8 bags of organic soil at Armstrong nursury that are better than Walmarts continuous feed soil. I dont always use the extreme dose of bone and blood meal, but I usually stick to the basic theme of whats contained in those sentences, and it serves me well. I grow alot more than just BOG strains with his mixture as well.
Here are more Sour Bub clones from different mothers showing some of the color variations.
Last edited:
O
olddrifter66
Care Free 1 said:olddrifter66
Contained within those paragraphs you posted are what I have used since 2001 to grow my plants. I do make judgement calls on many of the items though.
I found $8 bags of organic soil at Armstrong nursury that are better than Walmarts continuous feed soil. I dont always use the extreme dose of bone and blood meal, but I usually stick to the basic theme of whats contained in those sentences, and it serves me well. I grow alot more than just BOG strains with his mixture as well.
Here are more Sour Bub clones from different mothers showing some of the color variations.
I agree that some tweaking is necessary to fit each situation.
Those are again some great pics. Are they all SBBX3 or a mixture?
Hi olddrifter66
Those are Sour Bub BX2's and BX3's. A nice Grape Punch pheno in the lower left of that photo also. If you know what your plants can handle, you can tweak your recipe. Some strains just cant take those levels of soil amendments, so I back off a little.
I am going to try LST training this year to see if increases in yield will be noticed from lower branches. I believe yield is OK per plant with the 1kw lighting, but if I can crank out an extra oz or so from the lower branches, that would be cool.
Those are Sour Bub BX2's and BX3's. A nice Grape Punch pheno in the lower left of that photo also. If you know what your plants can handle, you can tweak your recipe. Some strains just cant take those levels of soil amendments, so I back off a little.
I am going to try LST training this year to see if increases in yield will be noticed from lower branches. I believe yield is OK per plant with the 1kw lighting, but if I can crank out an extra oz or so from the lower branches, that would be cool.
Not all the Sour Bubble's display the rich blue's, black's, and red's. The green pheno's I have had are a really potent hard sour citrus that will rival anything I have smoked. Just cuz they are green and dont color up doesn't mean they are not highly desired.
Here are some green pheno clones in veg. Not nearly as blue as some of the others.
They finish like this.
Here are some green pheno clones in veg. Not nearly as blue as some of the others.
They finish like this.
O
olddrifter66
I have tried the lst on my bx3, but it gets a little tricky.....I find that with the added canopy, the bottoms don't do as well even with the top looking nice and full.
Some produce more from this and others less. But I am working with the one I kept from only 5 seeds sprouted. 4 were male if I remember correctly.
Of course I did not keep any pollen.
Some produce more from this and others less. But I am working with the one I kept from only 5 seeds sprouted. 4 were male if I remember correctly.
Of course I did not keep any pollen.
southwind
Member
Hospital
Hospital
Greetings
I am off to the hospital in the morning and if all goes well will have stone out by afternoon.
I will rest part of day and then leave for the OTF.
It just has to be done, the timing is bad, but things are a t a state where they cannot wait any longer for bloom nutrients.
Thanks you all for posting and esp. the BOG GROW METHOD.
I know CAREFREE 1 and OLD DRIFTER will keep that up and watch the thread for us.
Good luck all.
sw
Hospital
Greetings
I am off to the hospital in the morning and if all goes well will have stone out by afternoon.
I will rest part of day and then leave for the OTF.
It just has to be done, the timing is bad, but things are a t a state where they cannot wait any longer for bloom nutrients.
Thanks you all for posting and esp. the BOG GROW METHOD.
I know CAREFREE 1 and OLD DRIFTER will keep that up and watch the thread for us.
Good luck all.
sw
Well Southwind, I am glad your going in and getting that taken care of. We need you healthy and strong. I look forward to your advice and knowledge for the upcoming projects. My prayers are for a speedy recovery for you.
One last shot of your favorite flower.
Take care bro.
CF1
One last shot of your favorite flower.
Take care bro.
CF1
Also the ultra rare purple pheno you know well. I have not yet seen any other Sour Bub grower find this pheno yet. Lets see if we can do it again this year.
