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Blockhead F2s and Hawaiian Snow Diesel

smilley

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I love vertical. I just switched last year so this is my 2nd go at it. The room runs quite a bit cooler without the big horizontal reflector. Plant height is no longer an issue for me, but I still have to try and maintain uniform height if possible. This particular crop has some colas well above the base of the lamp. I'm going to try and even the plant heights with some training. Hey, you're the one who prompted me to up my root mass for the next crop, we were talking about root mass and yield . I think the plants are gonna love the 5 gal pails.
 

BubsNugs

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Looking really nice dude! Sorry for taking so long to get back to you :(
About the LK and the "claw"...Ive used the LK in all stages of growth both in the nutrients and by itself I have also used it in a foliar feed (of course not with buds) For the claw i think its a sign of too much ferts so i tend to feed lighter then directed on the bottle ,if alls well u can add a bit more or if signs like the claw or tip burn show up u can dial it back a bit. One other thing i have noticed quite a bit with some of these more sativa leaning plants is that they tend to respong quite well to having their tops tied down so 1 u have the buds(main cola at that) closer to the light but i have often seen the rest of the plant do a bit of a growth spurt after the bending. I see you are doin some training on some of the clones so that should be intresting . Looking very nice over all dude, i am gettin goin on my boogie and have started a bunch of seeds in rockwool and its been awhile since i did hydro so it should be intresting!
Take care dude!
Peace
 

smilley

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Hi OldLuck. I'm really happy with the grow this year. the best way for me to describe it is uneventful. That's a good thing. Last year it was timer issues, the year before, an invasion of the borg, you get the idea.

The Blockheads are little resin factories. Way denser trichome distribution than the HSD. I'm also thinking that the BH yield isn't going to live up to my expectations. It is a crop from seed and I knew when I flowered them that they really wanted a couple more weeks of veg so I should probably lower my expectations. For me, a 50g plant is excellent. If I'm gonna get 50g s from these girls, they'll really have to get busy.
It's sure nice dense bud all the same. I can't actually see any seeds (BH) where I pollinated them, but I think they're there, I'll just have to smoke my way to them after harvest. ha, ha The seeded HSD buds are clearly visible (looser buds).
I should also add, I've got a light smattering of seeding showing on a couple of other HSDs caused by pollen drift from the seeded buds but only like a seed per 4 or 5 buds, so ok. I'm guessing the BHs will have a bit of this too, I just can't see it. I'll collect em all, the accidental ones could be alternate crosses, or random mix, it's all good.
Thanks for lookin in OldLuck, I'll bet that outdoor crop cured up nice for you.:smoke out:
 

smilley

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Hey Bubs, good to hear you're crackin seeds. Did you fire up those Johnny Blaze seeds?? I've heard a lot of good things about that strain. Lookin forward to sampling some of your herb when I get out your way at Easter.
I here ya on the top colas. In hindsight, I should have bent them big time in early flower and those buds would probably be way bigger too. It is what it is now, but the next crop is going to be better. You know, I get lazy and complacent and it always shows up in the yield. I'm not gonna bend em now, they're getting brittle and I don't want to lose one completely or something.
So, I was talking to primobud about finishing times on the HSD and I've decided to time the rinse and flush for an 11 week harvest. Gingerale mentioned that 11 week timeframe for the BHs so I'll treat them the same.
I'm going to feed all the plants Liquid Karma only during week 9 and then straight water till the end. :)
 

gingerale

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Hey man just to be clear I would not take that 11 weeks as gospel, it could be a 12 weeker, I havent actually measured the BH and just used a rough estimate based on other plants in the garden. When you see about 1/4 to 1/2 the hairs go brown and swelling a little taper your feed down to 1/2 strength for a week, then down to 1/4 strength, then when it's 90% swollen go straight water. I really dont like doing a full two week plain water flush because it can stunt the plants and cause them not to swell right.
 

smilley

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That's a more sensible idea than mine, gingerale. A taper-off scenario would reduce risk of shock for sure. I was planning to verify ripeness with a scope for actual harvest day. 12 weeks is the limit though, and that gives me no turn around time to start the clones in the flower room. Because of my Spring time commitments there's no wiggle room on the season end date.
Realistically, I'll probably end up chopping the bulk of the crop around 80 days, finished or not......
That would give me a few days wiggle room on the next crop...
 

smilley

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The Geranium Room

The Geranium Room

I spent all afternoon yesterday hauling plants from the garage to the geranium room. My job was easy, mrs smilley did all the root pruning, repotting, and defoliating and shaping. Oh, and she made sure there were no mouse holes in any of the larger pots soil. A couple of years ago I inadvertantly carried in a mouse in a pot and it took a couple of months before we caught it. Here's the room partially full.

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This one shows a large specimen. This plant in summer will have well over 30 large floral clusters at one time. Quite spectacular.

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DrFever

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that is awesome your wife has some skills she did a perfect job you plan on storing them in that room or do you plan on turning light on them hell would have the niceest place on the block come spring time lol
 

smilley

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Oh ya Doc, she runs them at 4/20 for the next couple of months and then gradually brings them up to 12/12 by May. She lights it all up with 1000hps. I'll post a pic or 2 over the winter, Some will start flowering as early as Feb. Have some strawberry's and some begonias but mostly geraniums.

Here's a couple of pics from my breeding project last year....

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smilley

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The Clones Day V42

The Clones Day V42

The clones are all looking good and vegging along as they should be. I'm gonna let em go another week and then I'll repot them into their 5 gal finishing pails. About 4 weeks of veg before the flip.

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Remember the gel cup clones, this one is a BH, the missing pheno, and it's finally starting to root at 42 days from cutting. This one and another HSD from gel cup. I don't know what to do with them, the BH won't be big enough to cut clones when needed but could be vegged for another 100 days and flowered. ha, ha I'll bring the 2 clones along and find a place for them in the final crop. Anyway, here's the missing pheno...

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Here's the BH that I topped. I think she looks awesome. After repotting. I'll double stake her and she should produce excellent. Oh, I'm gonna need a clone or 2 from her too.

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And finally here's a HSD clone. This one is just about perfect. I have another HSD that I split one of the main branches. About 1/2, the bottom 1/2, is holding and feeding the main branch (no stress) but I'm going to have reinforce the joint before the branch gets too heavy. Low stress training, my ass...

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silver hawaiian

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Clones day 42?!

Already?!

Holy shit, do you know how much progress I could've made in 42 days?

Instead I have a bunch of clones with no roots, and a need to put plants to flower in about 30 days.

Dammit.

Looks good smiley :D
 

smilley

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HSD Day F52

HSD Day F52

Here's a couple of pics of the HSDs. Not my best photography, but I'm reluctant at this stage to move any plants except for watering. I'll try and do better next time. I'm starting to see some pistil browning and I'm seeing some ever-so-slight tip burn here and there so I'm going to drop the feeding down to 3/4 strength. I have 1 HSD (the seeded one) that's showing about 75 percent pistil withering that is already on 50 percent feed. This plant will be harvested at 63 days because I m running out of weed. I guess I shouldn't have made that last batch of hash after all. :biggrin:

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smilley

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Blockhead Day F52

Blockhead Day F52

Here's a pic of each of the BHs. Theyre coming along good, I'm seeing a bit of tip burn like with the HSDs and some pistil browning so I'm gonna go ahead and cut all of the BHs back to 75 percent feeding. One of the BHs is further advanced with the pistil withering (about 50 percent) and it'll probably finish faster than the others. I'm not seeing any quick finishing BHs though. I chose this strain because it was advertised as finishing around 60 days and it's looking more like 80+. Oh well...

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smilley

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:shark: Catfish Billy!!!! Hey dude, if you have seeds, pop em, I think you'll be happy.

I'm liking the BHs more and more. The clones are branching way better than the seed mothers and I'm sure they'll yield way better too. I'm really looking forward to smoking some different weed, I've been smoking Hawaiian Snow for almost a yearstraight.:smokeit:
 

smilley

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The Clones DayV49

The Clones DayV49

Here's the clones 49 days from cutting. Tomorrow they'll be repotted into their 5 gal finishing pails. Things are going to start getting crowded in the veg room, but I think I have just enough space and head room, we'll see. Still over 3 weeks of veg left.

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Look at this 3 leaf thing going on with this clone. This is a BH and I have another BH with some weird growth going on. The other ones have started putting out 5 fingers but these 2 girls are a bit more stubborn. The HSDs have all reverted to full veg. Silver Hawaiian mentioned it a few weeks ago and attributed it to cutting clones in flower. I hope they revert back to normal veg after I repot them.

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smilley

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Early Harvest

Early Harvest

So, my weed stash is exhausted and I lopped the top 15 inches off this HSD at Day F58. This is my seeded female and it's the lower buds that got the bulk of the pollen so I'll let the rest of the plant go another 4 or 5 days. I had 2 fully mature seeds fall out of the main cola.

This plant is at least 3 weeks from optimum but I'll rattle apart if I run out of weed so chop/chop. :watchplant:
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