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Selling seeds isn't the only charge against him. Do you really think this is all he is guilty of?
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James-Bong
"Acting on behalf of US Justice Department and Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) under a bilateral treaty, Canadian police last Friday arrested British Columbia Marijuana Party (BCMP) founder and head Marc Emery and two employees on US charges of conspiring to distribute marijuana and marijuana seeds and money-laundering. "
Well, Looks like out side of Money-laundering thats about correct....
Gee, i wonder how many people around here are guilty of that........
People shouldn't be charged with conspiring to distribute marijuana and marijuana seeds. It should be legal and thats that.
jb
Well, Looks like out side of Money-laundering thats about correct....
Gee, i wonder how many people around here are guilty of that........
People shouldn't be charged with conspiring to distribute marijuana and marijuana seeds. It should be legal and thats that.
jb
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You've made a few references as to what people may be guilty of around here. I can only account for myself. The facts stand as they do.
1) Marc Overcharged for his services.
2) Marc short counted the seeds.
3) Marc did not protect his customers to the best of his ability.
Hence the thread Big Problems For Emeryseeds Customers. Perhaps another thread (Did I really just say that??) in Law and Politics could cover what your point may be?
1) Marc Overcharged for his services.
2) Marc short counted the seeds.
3) Marc did not protect his customers to the best of his ability.
Hence the thread Big Problems For Emeryseeds Customers. Perhaps another thread (Did I really just say that??) in Law and Politics could cover what your point may be?
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James-Bong
WeedWrapperMan said:1) Marc Overcharged for his services.
2) Marc short counted the seeds.
3) Marc did not protect his customers to the best of his ability.
We live in a world where consumers have a right to shop around nobody held a gun to anyones head when they ordered seeds from Emery.
I believe the facts stand As These 1. Cannabis Should be legal.
2. No one should be arrested for cannabis.
JB
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Reality Check
Reality Check
1) It isn't.
2) People are.
You almost had me thinking you worthy of my debate JB but then you stoop and stumble. You speak of Business Ethics as a seperate thing from Life Ethics and choose to see only what supports your need to be right about something. These are sad facts. I'm not denying it but facts they are. I guess I'll ask You what You plan to do about it and to call You out on Talking the Talk and Walking the Walk. What I'm going to do is continue to grow weed and give it to those that need it. At my expense. I want it to be Legal as much as the next needy individual. I don't think Marc is going about it the right way. If you honestly believe Marc went about things with the People and the Weed as his primary interest more power to ya. His tactics and previous arrests speak for themselves. You have to admit he pulled some ignorant moves. Stand on the platform Marc built and see how many listen to you. I don't see many ICers backin you JB (you know the weed selling money launderers) and this may speak for itself too. I'll see ya on your "Americas Unfair Attempt at Kidnapping Marc Emery" thread and I'll break you off some more facts. That would be a better place to tell you WHY I think Marc is being made such an Example or WHY I think weed is kept illegal. And what about those who would Capitalize on Weed being Illegal when it comes to Minors. Should they escape arrest too? People making loot selling weed to our kids are included in your "No one should be arrested for cannabis" aren't they? We are all well versed on the Human Laws of "Cause and Effect" and "Acceptable Risk" and "Truth or Consequences" or maybe "What goes around comes around" aren't we? How can you ask I to neglect knowing that Marc Emery's Actions contradicted his Mission Statement? This alone should be enough proof of his Unworthyness. Coupled with the fact that his last days as a business man in the seed industry were spent trying to discredit others in the same with slander in his magazine really amazes I. Hmmmm. Time well spent? I think NOT. The plot thickens eh? All I really have is how I feel about something (which seems to be based on the information given or available) and controling a feeling is a very tricky matter which I'm sure you're aware of. How I feel when I hear of an unfortunate person getting busted for possession/medicinal gardening or for a couple of guys named Ed and Eddy getting hassled Again and Again or the WAMM Garden getting popped for its goods is much different than how I feel about Marc getting what he asked for but really did not want or a Commercial Cash Op going down.
Reality Check
1) It isn't.
2) People are.
You almost had me thinking you worthy of my debate JB but then you stoop and stumble. You speak of Business Ethics as a seperate thing from Life Ethics and choose to see only what supports your need to be right about something. These are sad facts. I'm not denying it but facts they are. I guess I'll ask You what You plan to do about it and to call You out on Talking the Talk and Walking the Walk. What I'm going to do is continue to grow weed and give it to those that need it. At my expense. I want it to be Legal as much as the next needy individual. I don't think Marc is going about it the right way. If you honestly believe Marc went about things with the People and the Weed as his primary interest more power to ya. His tactics and previous arrests speak for themselves. You have to admit he pulled some ignorant moves. Stand on the platform Marc built and see how many listen to you. I don't see many ICers backin you JB (you know the weed selling money launderers) and this may speak for itself too. I'll see ya on your "Americas Unfair Attempt at Kidnapping Marc Emery" thread and I'll break you off some more facts. That would be a better place to tell you WHY I think Marc is being made such an Example or WHY I think weed is kept illegal. And what about those who would Capitalize on Weed being Illegal when it comes to Minors. Should they escape arrest too? People making loot selling weed to our kids are included in your "No one should be arrested for cannabis" aren't they? We are all well versed on the Human Laws of "Cause and Effect" and "Acceptable Risk" and "Truth or Consequences" or maybe "What goes around comes around" aren't we? How can you ask I to neglect knowing that Marc Emery's Actions contradicted his Mission Statement? This alone should be enough proof of his Unworthyness. Coupled with the fact that his last days as a business man in the seed industry were spent trying to discredit others in the same with slander in his magazine really amazes I. Hmmmm. Time well spent? I think NOT. The plot thickens eh? All I really have is how I feel about something (which seems to be based on the information given or available) and controling a feeling is a very tricky matter which I'm sure you're aware of. How I feel when I hear of an unfortunate person getting busted for possession/medicinal gardening or for a couple of guys named Ed and Eddy getting hassled Again and Again or the WAMM Garden getting popped for its goods is much different than how I feel about Marc getting what he asked for but really did not want or a Commercial Cash Op going down.
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James-Bong
you can write a book if ya want.... but ur not going to change my mind.....
Nobody deserves to to be in jail for Cannabis....... Simple as that....... The longest post in the world won't change my mind.
Nobody deserves to to be in jail for Cannabis....... Simple as that....... The longest post in the world won't change my mind.
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James-Bong
"I don't see many ICers backin you JB"
First off, I don't need a Following of People to justify my beliefs.
My beliefs are what they are, and if me Thinking that No one should go to the Clink for cannabis, makes me an asshole or whatever than so be it, i really don't give a rat's ass.
Second off, I never liked Mark Emery anywaysI think he is a DumbASS.... THATS WHY I NEVER PURCHASED SEEDS FROM HIM. I have always Thought of the Cannabis community as a FAMILY. Ever Family has it's "Black Sheep" If Mark was Ripping People off or shorting them out of Seeds, Then he was as Wrong as Two Boys fucking. But im not going to support the DEA on sending him to the Clink for selling Cannabis seeds.
If you were ignorant enough to buy seeds from him then thats your Fault.
Maybe He screwed you out of a Reach Around i don't really fucking Care. I really don't give a Fuck What your Beef with him is.
When i say NOBODY should go to jail for Selling Cannabis or Cannabis seeds That EXCATLY what I fucking mean.... I don't Give a Fuck if you are Charles Manson,Adolf Hitler,Marcus Aurelius,Osama Bin laden or Gangus Fucking Con.
If you have done Something Fucked up and Deserve to go Down for it Than so be it, You should be Taken down for your wrong doings.
So, QUIT TWISTING AND WARPING MY FUCKING WORDS.
The only thing i have Stated is that: Distribution of Cannabis and Cannabis seeds SHOULD NOT BE A CRIME and NOBODY SHOULD BE ARRESTED FOR IT.
And if you can't belive in that well than maybe you should go turn yourself in?
JB
First off, I don't need a Following of People to justify my beliefs.
My beliefs are what they are, and if me Thinking that No one should go to the Clink for cannabis, makes me an asshole or whatever than so be it, i really don't give a rat's ass.
Second off, I never liked Mark Emery anywaysI think he is a DumbASS.... THATS WHY I NEVER PURCHASED SEEDS FROM HIM. I have always Thought of the Cannabis community as a FAMILY. Ever Family has it's "Black Sheep" If Mark was Ripping People off or shorting them out of Seeds, Then he was as Wrong as Two Boys fucking. But im not going to support the DEA on sending him to the Clink for selling Cannabis seeds.
If you were ignorant enough to buy seeds from him then thats your Fault.
Maybe He screwed you out of a Reach Around i don't really fucking Care. I really don't give a Fuck What your Beef with him is.
When i say NOBODY should go to jail for Selling Cannabis or Cannabis seeds That EXCATLY what I fucking mean.... I don't Give a Fuck if you are Charles Manson,Adolf Hitler,Marcus Aurelius,Osama Bin laden or Gangus Fucking Con.
If you have done Something Fucked up and Deserve to go Down for it Than so be it, You should be Taken down for your wrong doings.
So, QUIT TWISTING AND WARPING MY FUCKING WORDS.
The only thing i have Stated is that: Distribution of Cannabis and Cannabis seeds SHOULD NOT BE A CRIME and NOBODY SHOULD BE ARRESTED FOR IT.
And if you can't belive in that well than maybe you should go turn yourself in?
JB
turtle power
Member
Im with you Jb
No matter what a person has done, show some forgiveness...
Nobody deserves to fall in the hands of us authorities for cannabis matters...
We need more people like mark fightning cannabis laws even doing it the wrong way its still better then doing nothing
No matter what a person has done, show some forgiveness...
Nobody deserves to fall in the hands of us authorities for cannabis matters...
We need more people like mark fightning cannabis laws even doing it the wrong way its still better then doing nothing
HawaiianGrown
Active member
WEED Man is mistaken
WEED Man is mistaken
Aloha,
WEED wrapper dude.
NO
Back UP
You said Cannabis is not legal as a stated fact.\\\\\
That is not true.
Cannabis has zero legal status.
It is an herb of nature.
There are things you can do with cannabis that are illegal or prohibited by the laws of some sovereign entities.
However, even in the leader of the jailors US of A, the government supplies weed to a select remaining but dropping-off few, or at least those few they are ready to acknowledge. Rest assured if Cheney needs Da-Kine, its delivered on silver platters, Vapes in tow.
I'm legal too, so whatcha gonna do?
all things and status's are relative.
Your absolute way of thinking begs for exception.
Just keepin it real.........
Aloha
WEED Man is mistaken
Aloha,
WEED wrapper dude.
NO
Back UP
You said Cannabis is not legal as a stated fact.\\\\\
That is not true.
Cannabis has zero legal status.
It is an herb of nature.
There are things you can do with cannabis that are illegal or prohibited by the laws of some sovereign entities.
However, even in the leader of the jailors US of A, the government supplies weed to a select remaining but dropping-off few, or at least those few they are ready to acknowledge. Rest assured if Cheney needs Da-Kine, its delivered on silver platters, Vapes in tow.
I'm legal too, so whatcha gonna do?
all things and status's are relative.
Your absolute way of thinking begs for exception.
Just keepin it real.........
Aloha
FinalSolace2
New member
marc emery is no fu@ink clean whistle, he is a serious druggie and on the CC forums sexual advice topic he talk of many sordid sexual practices involving drug which are quite shocking, icmag readers also include very young people who can seriously end up doing the wrong thing,
i'm sorry but he brings the marijuana movement down- you will see in the comming weeks evidence to be brought against him that will startle most people.
i'm sorry but he brings the marijuana movement down- you will see in the comming weeks evidence to be brought against him that will startle most people.
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Guest
Never be quick to defend another unless you know all about them, and I mean know all, which is very hard to do.
It is said " we will always pay for the wrongs we do" it is just a matter of when and how ?
Stay safe in every way.
realhigh.
It is said " we will always pay for the wrongs we do" it is just a matter of when and how ?
Stay safe in every way.
realhigh.
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What am I gonna do Hawaiian Grown? The same thing I have been. Don't let my feelings about ME jade your view of what I believe in. Cannabis should not be demonized the way it has been. If even One of us Med or Recreational users is doing so in a place where they can be jailed for possessing weed All of Us and the weed has been done an Injustice. So where do I need to back up to? We all need to come Up together. Weed isn't 100% legal for adults Anywhere (there are laws against it everywhere some States/Provinces/Cantons are more tolerant than others but 100% legality for consenting adults has not been achieved). There are still penalties and limits that must be accounted for/considered Everywhere. The Feds can still come to your Island State and push their weight around. Remember that! And from the word I got from friends that Migrated to Hawaii is the Feds might need to do just that for Meth. Do you think the Feds will pass up a few easy pot busts while they are there? Until Marijuana is looked at as more than a Cash Cow it will remain Illegal to some degree and people will suffer. Those who take advantage of weed being illegal (for profit or fame) only solidify the further demonization of a plant. I'm not saying any of this is fair only that This is how it is. By growing my own and giving it away I am perpetuating the Good that can come from this. The more people I can drag out of the Supply and Demand Loop the better. What am I so Wrong about? Am I taking the Wrong approach? I welcome all Logical Debate. It is some of you deluded fools that feel Safe and Free that need my reality check. It is called a False Sense of Security. I'm glad to have helped you see something you felt a need to respond to. Facts are facts whether we like them or not. We need to Change them instead of Arguing about who's legal and who isn't because of location. Shit you seem proud of the Fact that you are a Legal User and I am not. Do you think yourself better than I or anyone else not living in a Med state or Tolerant Country? Get a grip with your self righteous statements. They only help You feel better. What about Everyone else. I'll say it again. We Need To Come UP as a Whole. If this were the place to spout off my ideas on How we can Achieve and Teach a Higher Understanding about the weed I would but this thread is "Big Problems for EmerySeeds customers".
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i hope we stick together.....we need to work for a clearly stated goal.....that's why i think a political party for Cannabis is a good idea because it will help clarify goals on the local, regional and federal jurisdictions.....i don't know much about that "Marijuana Party" but first of all it needs to drop that "marijuana" moniker because it is an inherently racial term.....i know that is splitting-hairs or giiving in to "PC" mindwarping but IMHO we need to reject that word in favor of the word "Cannabis".....but that is a tangent and maybe someone can set me straight on the "Marijuana Party" because i am a bit uninformed.....
Also, it strikes me as odd that we are arrested for "Possession" or "Cultivation" of this miraculous plant.....at least they can't get into your brain and charge your brain with being in possession of too much THC.....yet......
Is growing an act of civil disobedience, then?
This plant is too medically important to stop cultivating it.....we will not bend to a facist government which is in collusion with the Pharmaceutical Companies which force us to buy their "petrochemical" medicine and deny the legitimacy of herbal and homeopathic and Cannabis medicines.....-gp out
Also, it strikes me as odd that we are arrested for "Possession" or "Cultivation" of this miraculous plant.....at least they can't get into your brain and charge your brain with being in possession of too much THC.....yet......
Is growing an act of civil disobedience, then?
This plant is too medically important to stop cultivating it.....we will not bend to a facist government which is in collusion with the Pharmaceutical Companies which force us to buy their "petrochemical" medicine and deny the legitimacy of herbal and homeopathic and Cannabis medicines.....-gp out
BrattPid
Member
And yet people die of hunger in Africa and there's war and one year after the Tsunami people in Asia still can't return home,bury their loved ones properly or returning to what was life to them(not much). Dear President BU(ll)SH(it) you are such a religious man believe in God and all. Believe that everything in the world that grows and breaths is created by God. Then who created cannabis? It wasn't me. I wish I could take credit for it. I wish I could patent it and make billions for those people who use it instead of meds they can't afford thanks to your wonderful healthcare plan. How many people die again of not receiving proper medication... It wasn't anyone on this site. So why don't you send the DEA to arrest HIM and than maybe we'll surrender.But how do you arrest God huh?? Meanwhile could you please donate all these millions that you are spending fighting wars (cannabis,iraq wherever) and spend it on healthcare (hey cannabis solves alot of pain ) hunger,aids preventation and breast cancer research. There are so many problems that thanks to the attention you spend on stupid things are being buried and forgotten. Ah I guess on the scale of live.. living and surviving just isn't worth that much for our world leaders as to chassing people because of a plant.....and yet guns and heavy pharmaseuticals are tolerated. And we know how well they contribute to men's health... pathetic! sorry for any typo's I'm pissed and I'm Dutch I can't help myself!!
Grandpa
New member
This Prohibition is all about prescription drugs. The Medicare prescription plan was a win fall for pharmaceuticals. Written right in to the plan Medicare can not negation for better price. The medical and pharmaceutical company's were given billions. It doesn't take much thought to see who really runs the USA.
Now if we consider the fact that this devil weed can be used to treat 20 to 30 percent of medical problems now being treated with prescription drugs. <per Dr Jay>.
The pharmaceutical industry has a lot to loose and they will fight every way they can.
I am sure they can feel the loss of sales due to those that have converted from there pills to that seed that Emery and others sell. We are talking hundreds of billions of dollars!!! This is the big picture that the drug company's have covered up and needs to be exposed. You got it, it's all about money! The drug companies are in control of the White House because we have the best politicians money can buy!
Now if we consider the fact that this devil weed can be used to treat 20 to 30 percent of medical problems now being treated with prescription drugs. <per Dr Jay>.
The pharmaceutical industry has a lot to loose and they will fight every way they can.
I am sure they can feel the loss of sales due to those that have converted from there pills to that seed that Emery and others sell. We are talking hundreds of billions of dollars!!! This is the big picture that the drug company's have covered up and needs to be exposed. You got it, it's all about money! The drug companies are in control of the White House because we have the best politicians money can buy!
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Guest
Those are kew word's Grandpa, one myself actually, LOL
" We have the best politician's money can buy" this is so very true.
It is time the people take back what money has taken from them, their freedom.
Stay safe and enjoy your life.
realhighl
" We have the best politician's money can buy" this is so very true.
It is time the people take back what money has taken from them, their freedom.
Stay safe and enjoy your life.
realhighl
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