James-Bong said:Like i said..... Getting Marijuana legal is Should be our main goal. Starting Stupid Flame threads and Danceing about on someones Woes, Will only Generate Negitive Karma. It's Like Taking 1 step foreward and 2 steps back.
Cannabis was put here by God, It was meant to be used. It was Meant to be LEGAL.
If Marc Emery was selling knock offs or what ever then there should be some kinda TradeMark law Where you Could File a Lawsuit against him.
All im Trying to say NO ONE should be behind bars for useing, distributing or Growing pot.
Rezdog said:I don't like him,personally,but I don't want to see him jailed,by any means.
1tokeOverLine said:Damn. I know better than to read these type threads.
But since I got pulled into it, I can't help but to take offense at some and agree with others. I guess on the whole I have to agree with the consesus that what we are doing is illegal - we KNOW it, and we chose to continue doing it knowing there are serious consequences. The only apparent option in this state of affairs is to pay greater attention to damage control - minimize the circle of prosecution, don't take everyone down with you.
Agreeably a sad situation in Italy for 50-70 people to fall by involving their IP address use, but to turn that into a statement that the US can do it too is stretching it a bit. The last article I read mentioned a total of active IP addresses somewhere in the neighborhood of 200,000 times those busted in Italy. The US is quite a bit larger and has a few more users to even contemplate that they all could be tracked or anyone would even want to - unless you pull a Marc Emery and dare an entity with the resources to take you down if they can. US citizens are getting busted in larger numbers every day than that situation in Italy, IP addresses is at the bottom of the list, I'm sure, of methods used to ultimately bust them. I was a government network administrator for nearly 20 years - believe me, if they have a cheaper way to bust you they aren't going to hire technicians and install resources to do it. Not to say they don't already have those resources in place and aren't already tracking us - and again, it comes down to how big a fish you are for them to come after. Hell I had to fight tooth and nail for another NT server and bridge for nearly 2 years before I could get it approved. Bottom line is, take the Italian IPs there were busted and multiply them by about 200,000 times and you begin to comprehend the logistics involved, and the chances of your one randon IP being monitored without suspicion placed on yourself.
Another statement thrown around freely seems to be 70 or 80-some % of the US "favors" relaxing marijuana presecution or medical use. Sorry if I sound cynical, but if that's the case then the 20-30% that want to kill (OK, maybe a little harsh - how about hate) any pothead or anyone associated with the Devil Weed have followed me around all my life just to be my neighbors. I have never met a neighbor that wouldn't hesitate for one second to turn my ass in if they knew what went on in my grow room. And it certainly doesn't help to have our lawmakers snicker and jeer the marijuana lobbyists with "pothead" jokes to the media or peers - our "leaders" and "lawmakers" see our culture as a 60s' joke and ignore it as such. I think our number one priority is to overcome that and educate to dispell the Bush Administration's evangelical crusades and the DEAs free use of enormous public funds to headline their lies and propoganda. No one on capitol hill wants to admit to smoking pot or associating with the culture for fear of career backlash from their peers, they care less what their constituents think - their careers take top priority. They need to see how ridiculous and trivial their denials appear to us, and how an accountability and honesty opinion is affected by their continous misleading statements and skewed poll results slanted to further their careers.
Bottom line for this grower is the same as it has always been, my lifestyle is part of an underground - ridiculed and harrassed by society at every chance, and will be that way for the rest of my lifetime with no changes evident in the near future or that of my offspring, unfortunately. Security is still the means to survival and secrecy the vessel to financial and family stability. There will always be the Chicken Littles around yelling about the sky falling and the religious fanatics warning of impending doom if we don't repent. The sad fact is that marijuana shouldn't logically be a part of the equation and our choice to use it will always present a risk and reason to mistrust for those that don't.
I've never let anyone or anything make me bury my head in the sand and fear for my life, but then again I never let anyone know what goes on behind the closed locked doors of my home. Common sense has to prevail as always and tempers have to be checked at the door or mass hysteria will take over and the idiots in control now will have won in spite of our feeble attempts to change how the world percieves our culture. As Rez has said - fear and ignorance are their number one weapons, as long as we challenge their fear tactics and continue to educate the unaware life goes on. I'm not going to admit they won and act like the pothead they want everyone to think I am.
That said, peace. (Admittedly, some of this is on thread topic.)
Oh, and that West Coast comment about setting the pace and the rest of the country following eventually is laughable if not arrogantly egotistical - typcial of how most Americans view Texans. Sorry, but tumbleweed and six shooters don't set the pace of America. (Detroit had passed medical marijuana long before western states thought to vote on it, and how many western states have decriminalized use across the board (not just say it, but actually do it - most western states STILL prosecute and jail for pot offenses as well as remove your drivers license and limit your civil liberties - to my knowledge Ohio is the only state that allows you to LEGALLY possess for personal use).
I almost forgot the wireless router suggestion - it's only useful if you DON'T secure your network, it has to be accessible by the general public for that defense to be plausible. I don't let paranoia get that tight on me, I've always had my wireless network open and unsecure, I just let my apps and local machines encrypt with internal keys. Who cares is someone needs my wireless to access a porn site with my connection.
Rezdog said:emery and co. Taking The Low Road....
When the going gets tough,emery tries to scare others away from Overgrow,Seeds Direct,and Heaven's Stairway....
Once an asshole,always an asshole.[/SIZE]
Link:
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4468.html
Mrskunkster said:Why put shit on Marc when all he did was provide seeds, like other seed banks???????
Yeap always thought the dude was a creep, especially when he got married ...Delta9-THC said:I agree ,,,,, No point being HAPPY about it ... but I don't like him either .... some of the people who work with him are Good People ..... but He's Not...
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REZDOG Kicks ASS..... lol
Peace