HawaiianStylie
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Aloha GoozMan!! Quick question about your cab, I have similar cab and am trying to figure out how to keep the doors light tight. How do your doors close?
Thanks!!
Thanks!!
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Balcony Garden Shed Round 3 - 16 plant SOG in vert tubes, 2x250w HPS
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GoozMan
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Huntingbb thanks that good advice again thank you. I'd just have to move some plants around but that shouldn't be too difficult.
HawaiianStylie welcome to my balcony the doors are damn near light tight thanks to a bunch of weather stripping. It doesn't stick great to the material of this shed so maybe superglue and you can get it totally light tight. Good luck and I'd love to see a pic of what you're doing.
Quick update: did a quick defol today, got rid of all the recently damaged leaves and now it's just the new growth that looks pretty good. Stems are getting thicker now, just another week or so and I'll start flower. I'll be excited to have my dirty hands all over some CONFIRMED ladies.
HawaiianStylie welcome to my balcony the doors are damn near light tight thanks to a bunch of weather stripping. It doesn't stick great to the material of this shed so maybe superglue and you can get it totally light tight. Good luck and I'd love to see a pic of what you're doing.
Quick update: did a quick defol today, got rid of all the recently damaged leaves and now it's just the new growth that looks pretty good. Stems are getting thicker now, just another week or so and I'll start flower. I'll be excited to have my dirty hands all over some CONFIRMED ladies.
if its in place, do the easy thing and just unplug the ballast
GoozMan
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6/5/11 Flower day 12
6/5/11 Flower day 12
Its been a while since an update. After transplanting to the shed the plants seemed stunted for about a week, I think because of pulling roots apart getting the plants from dwc bubbler to shed. After that first week though they really took off. With my two previous grows I never saw stems this thick, and while the plants aren't so tall I guess it has been about 2 months of veg since the seeds germed which is pretty good. Here are some pics from the last few days:
A few days of veg in the shed and things were looking pretty good. Looking closely I thought I saw some male preflowers on some of these, including this biggest one (poaxbbhog). The picture doesn't do this massive root mass justice, it was rock solid and as thick as my penis haha.
Pride of Amsterdam x Blueberry Hogsbreath is a fucking mouthful to type so for the time being until someone from San Diego corrects me I'm referring to this strain as GoozMan or GM for even shorter. Gooz is Farsi for fart, here's hoping for a stinker!
These are the two males, 2 out of 8 not bad at all! Both of these were GoozMan (hehe). Then a few shots of the shed after a few more days of flower.
Here are some shots from tonight:
That's 26 cuts sitting in the cabinet above my microwave, I just know they're gonna do great, though I really just want the one winner out of these to be a mother to the next 16 cuts for round 4 in the shed. We'll see how it goes.
6/5/11 Flower day 12
Its been a while since an update. After transplanting to the shed the plants seemed stunted for about a week, I think because of pulling roots apart getting the plants from dwc bubbler to shed. After that first week though they really took off. With my two previous grows I never saw stems this thick, and while the plants aren't so tall I guess it has been about 2 months of veg since the seeds germed which is pretty good. Here are some pics from the last few days:
A few days of veg in the shed and things were looking pretty good. Looking closely I thought I saw some male preflowers on some of these, including this biggest one (poaxbbhog). The picture doesn't do this massive root mass justice, it was rock solid and as thick as my penis haha.
Pride of Amsterdam x Blueberry Hogsbreath is a fucking mouthful to type so for the time being until someone from San Diego corrects me I'm referring to this strain as GoozMan or GM for even shorter. Gooz is Farsi for fart, here's hoping for a stinker!
These are the two males, 2 out of 8 not bad at all! Both of these were GoozMan (hehe
). Then a few shots of the shed after a few more days of flower.Here are some shots from tonight:
That's 26 cuts sitting in the cabinet above my microwave, I just know they're gonna do great, though I really just want the one winner out of these to be a mother to the next 16 cuts for round 4 in the shed. We'll see how it goes.
GoozMan
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Flower day 15
Flower day 15
Another update: I noticed a plant that was drying out, I checked the flow for that column and noticed it was very low. To remedy this I raised the T-barb where water splits off to each of the columns so that it would be above the height of the column tops, that seems to have done the trick. 2nd, a few days ago I had another plant start to droop a bit, and got worse every day, there was a strange black ring around the base of stem, I'm guessing some kind of infection. I had hoped it would bounce back but no luck so I took it out tonight. Also removed tonight was another male that I had missed during the first inquisition. That makes 5 females out of 8 seeds which is still pretty good, and after the infected loss I now have 1 very big healthy Big Bud and 3 good looking Goozes.
The first two are before and after shots of tonight's defoliation. Humidity in the shed has climbed to 80%, I'm hoping this pruning will help. The third picture is of the biggest and healthiest fans, Big Bud on the left and the Gooz male on the right.
Flower day 15
Another update: I noticed a plant that was drying out, I checked the flow for that column and noticed it was very low. To remedy this I raised the T-barb where water splits off to each of the columns so that it would be above the height of the column tops, that seems to have done the trick. 2nd, a few days ago I had another plant start to droop a bit, and got worse every day, there was a strange black ring around the base of stem, I'm guessing some kind of infection. I had hoped it would bounce back but no luck so I took it out tonight. Also removed tonight was another male that I had missed during the first inquisition. That makes 5 females out of 8 seeds which is still pretty good, and after the infected loss I now have 1 very big healthy Big Bud and 3 good looking Goozes.
The first two are before and after shots of tonight's defoliation. Humidity in the shed has climbed to 80%, I'm hoping this pruning will help. The third picture is of the biggest and healthiest fans, Big Bud on the left and the Gooz male on the right.
GoozMan
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Flower day 21
Flower day 21
Some pictures from day 19:
and more from day 21:
Day 21 for these 4 big plants is also day 1 for some freshly rooted clones. I had some extras sitting around and put them in the empty sites that were not too crowded. I will probably harvest these new clones at the same time as the others, maybe to make some cannamilk, and then I really want to fill the shed for round 4 and see what this shed and strain can do.
Yesterday was also the last day of school for my 8th graders, happy summer everyone!
Flower day 21
Some pictures from day 19:
and more from day 21:
Day 21 for these 4 big plants is also day 1 for some freshly rooted clones. I had some extras sitting around and put them in the empty sites that were not too crowded. I will probably harvest these new clones at the same time as the others, maybe to make some cannamilk, and then I really want to fill the shed for round 4 and see what this shed and strain can do.
Yesterday was also the last day of school for my 8th graders, happy summer everyone!
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right on dude glad to see its turned around this grow! I will bookmark this thread and come back for sure, PEACE
Slick.E.Boy
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i'm a little late to the party, story of my life...
often i see people here transform normal objects for brilliant grow operations; when I see something that I have but haven't used in such a way I get a real thrill. I have that exact same shed & balcony; wife has ruled out growing inside... wow!
and to think I was proud to turn a 2 liter bottle into a funnel, lol @ me...
often i see people here transform normal objects for brilliant grow operations; when I see something that I have but haven't used in such a way I get a real thrill. I have that exact same shed & balcony; wife has ruled out growing inside... wow!
and to think I was proud to turn a 2 liter bottle into a funnel, lol @ me...
GoozMan
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Flower day 24
Flower day 24
Here are some pictures from this morning just after the lights went out.
I love watching these buds forming and I get so little of it now that I'm flowering at night, and bare bulbs are no fun to sit next to.
It seems I am again having issues with even flow down all the columns, I don't know if I didn't notice before or if it developed recently. I'm thinking of changing the top design, currently the flow comes up from the pump through a 1/2 inch flexible tube to the height of the columns and the divides with a t-barb to more flexible tubing that forms a ring around the top of the columns. Where the tubing-ring meets a column there is another t-barb attached to tubing and a sprinkler-head. The idea was for the pump, along with the pressure from the sprinkler heads, to create enough pressure the create even flow through the ring of tubing across the top so that an even flow would fall down each column. So far that's not happening. I raised the first t-barb in the upward flow hoping that gravity would help, but still there is one column (and its even the closest one to the pump! goddamit) that just trickles where the rest are great. So I'm thinking of changing the setup of tubing across the top, it seems there's unnecessary length of tube and with a few 90º-barbs it could look more like the letter H across the top with each column being at the end of the flow instead of the part of a circular flow. If that doesn't work I guess I'll just buy a bigger pump but I really don't want to have to because I already bought this one
And I'm so sorry for that being so long and thank you if you read it all and especially thank you if you have a better idea . 
Flower day 24
Here are some pictures from this morning just after the lights went out.
I love watching these buds forming and I get so little of it now that I'm flowering at night, and bare bulbs are no fun to sit next to.
It seems I am again having issues with even flow down all the columns, I don't know if I didn't notice before or if it developed recently. I'm thinking of changing the top design, currently the flow comes up from the pump through a 1/2 inch flexible tube to the height of the columns and the divides with a t-barb to more flexible tubing that forms a ring around the top of the columns. Where the tubing-ring meets a column there is another t-barb attached to tubing and a sprinkler-head. The idea was for the pump, along with the pressure from the sprinkler heads, to create enough pressure the create even flow through the ring of tubing across the top so that an even flow would fall down each column. So far that's not happening. I raised the first t-barb in the upward flow hoping that gravity would help, but still there is one column (and its even the closest one to the pump! goddamit) that just trickles where the rest are great. So I'm thinking of changing the setup of tubing across the top, it seems there's unnecessary length of tube and with a few 90º-barbs it could look more like the letter H across the top with each column being at the end of the flow instead of the part of a circular flow. If that doesn't work I guess I'll just buy a bigger pump but I really don't want to have to because I already bought this one
And I'm so sorry for that being so long and thank you if you read it all and especially thank you if you have a better idea .
GoozMan
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flower day 25
flower day 25
I forgot a few thank yous the last time... 5th thanks for sticking around, I'm really excited about this round and even more so about next round with all the sites filled with consistent clones. Caligreen also thanks for making this a regular stop along your icmag travels. Slick E. Boy, I really hope you build this too and post some pictures in this thread, I'd love to see someone else's spin on this.
I don't know if this is a result of being such a stoner, but I often find that I'm having a problem and racking my brain trying to find a solution and trying different things, and then the answer turns out to be something stupid and simple... I was having a problem with even flow down each column - tonight I switched up the setup of the feed-tubing, it looks better now anyway, though it didn't solve the problem. So I tried switching the sprinkler heads around and discovered that that was the problem, I opened up the particular head and saw it was completely clogged up, 2 minutes with a toothbrush took care of it, and now flow looks great
Tonight I also moved the clones to the next stage. 10 of them went into a dwc bubbler, and from these I'm looking for a mother or two to supply cuttings for round 4. Another 3 clones (1 male, 2 female) went into a planter that hangs off my balcony - this is in hopes for some seeds and maybe a few extra buds I gave away 4 clones to a friend a few days ago, which left 2 males for the trash I hate to waste anything.
The bigger picture shows some nice bud development though the top of this plant and the other one at the top of the shed is showing serious claw action and I'm not sure why. I think it might be that they are close to the extraction fan on the roof??? I thought this was supposed to be a sign of not enough water but they are getting the same amount as other plants in their columns, and its only the top 2/3 of the plants that are showing this symptom. I dunno, if anyone has any ideas please feel free to chime in.
flower day 25
I forgot a few thank yous the last time... 5th thanks for sticking around, I'm really excited about this round and even more so about next round with all the sites filled with consistent clones. Caligreen also thanks for making this a regular stop along your icmag travels. Slick E. Boy, I really hope you build this too and post some pictures in this thread, I'd love to see someone else's spin on this.
I don't know if this is a result of being such a stoner, but I often find that I'm having a problem and racking my brain trying to find a solution and trying different things, and then the answer turns out to be something stupid and simple... I was having a problem with even flow down each column - tonight I switched up the setup of the feed-tubing, it looks better now anyway, though it didn't solve the problem. So I tried switching the sprinkler heads around and discovered that that was the problem, I opened up the particular head and saw it was completely clogged up, 2 minutes with a toothbrush took care of it, and now flow looks great
Tonight I also moved the clones to the next stage. 10 of them went into a dwc bubbler, and from these I'm looking for a mother or two to supply cuttings for round 4. Another 3 clones (1 male, 2 female) went into a planter that hangs off my balcony - this is in hopes for some seeds and maybe a few extra buds
I gave away 4 clones to a friend a few days ago, which left 2 males for the trash I hate to waste anything.The bigger picture shows some nice bud development though the top of this plant and the other one at the top of the shed is showing serious claw action and I'm not sure why. I think it might be that they are close to the extraction fan on the roof??? I thought this was supposed to be a sign of not enough water but they are getting the same amount as other plants in their columns, and its only the top 2/3 of the plants that are showing this symptom. I dunno, if anyone has any ideas please feel free to chime in.
HushemFlupskluk
Member
Hey man. That claw action looks familiar. IMO that is b/c it had less light for the period it grew up. It'll not recover from those claws already there. Bud my buds like that didn't lose production capacity or something.
Once the bulb is abouve the buds coming up those claws would show less. Perhaps genetics could give us a bit claw action also.
GL towards harvest!
Once the bulb is abouve the buds coming up those claws would show less. Perhaps genetics could give us a bit claw action also.
GL towards harvest!
GoozMan
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Hey Hushem, I'm sure your handle is a common name in the Netherlands but it's damn hard for me! Thanks for the idea, that actually makes a lot of sense being that these are the plants at the top of the shed and they're a little higher than the top light. I think for the next round I will shift the lights up a little
HushemFlupskluk
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Hehe if only my name was a comon name in NL. It was made up and everyone has trouble writing it down.
Putting your light up would most likelly prevent this claw action. But I would worry about getting the light in the green areas. So maybe all you have to do is just bend the twigg sideways and attach it to something it cannot grow back up again.
l8er!
Putting your light up would most likelly prevent this claw action. But I would worry about getting the light in the green areas. So maybe all you have to do is just bend the twigg sideways and attach it to something it cannot grow back up again.
l8er!
IwannatokeNbone
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seems like out of a 250 you personally get about one-2 sqaure foot of light with your method in this thread, seems like a very inefficient grow style to me, circular vertical is to gain sqaure footage, in very tight set ups like this i really doubt you will out yeild a horizontal of even 250watts n not 500, will see. best of luck.
GoozMan
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Hey Iwannatokenbone, thanks for the polite critique, I am indeed quite the rookie and appreciate any help, and actually you've got me thinking about a modification for next round. First let me explain, this shed is all the footprint space I can grow in, and with my previous horizontal setup, there was a lot of wasted height. Not to say I hit any kind of great numbers, my first grow yielded 3 ounces and I was stoked - I am aware that 1gpw for a 250w is about 8 ounces, so assuming I had hit that, with two 250s that would be a pound, and with 16 sites that's an ounce per plant. I think with the right training I can get close to that. I am definitely going for efficiency with this new setup, and I think once its full of good clones it will be (more so than it is now), but I at the very least intended to simply double my growing capacity. Using this method I'm able to double the lights (and quadruple the plant #s for less veg) hopefully earning yield yield yield. So, back to your critique, I am thinking maybe for next round I can use a bigger diameter fence-cylinder-light-guard thing. As it is, I have a 3 sq.ft. footprint, so when I was horizontal that was my canopy size. Currently the fence-cylinder-light-guard thing has 8 sq.ft of surface which I believe is a bigger number than 3 , even more than double (taking into account the 2 lights). You've got me thinking that maybe for next round I can increase the diameter of the cylinder getting a little more canopy size. Thanks again.
Prowler, thanks so much for the idea. Tbh though the light thing seemed more consistent with the fact that the same plant shows symptoms at the top but none at the bottom. I will try cutting back the N though and see if there's something to it. I'm currently using GH 3-part per bottle instructions + CaMag.
, even more than double (taking into account the 2 lights). You've got me thinking that maybe for next round I can increase the diameter of the cylinder getting a little more canopy size. Thanks again.Prowler, thanks so much for the idea. Tbh though the light thing seemed more consistent with the fact that the same plant shows symptoms at the top but none at the bottom. I will try cutting back the N though and see if there's something to it. I'm currently using GH 3-part per bottle instructions + CaMag.
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blank85
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Hey Gooz
You can disregard anything that guy says, he doesnt actually grow (ask him to post pictures of his plants and he will either ignore you or put you on his ginormous ignore list) so his advice on yield is based on his imagination and not his experience. He often gives out terrible terrible advice so dont be disheartened by anything he says.
My signature says it all.
Anyways goodluck mate!
You can disregard anything that guy says, he doesnt actually grow (ask him to post pictures of his plants and he will either ignore you or put you on his ginormous ignore list) so his advice on yield is based on his imagination and not his experience. He often gives out terrible terrible advice so dont be disheartened by anything he says.
My signature says it all.
Anyways goodluck mate!
GoozMan
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Flower day 30
Flower day 30
Hi Blank85, thanks for the heads-up, I hope you find something here that interests you.
Some flower shots from this morning. Looking good, I'm starting to really get excited!
My corner of socal is getting awfully humid lately, gotta keep trimming those fans. Happy Thursday all!
Flower day 30
Hi Blank85, thanks for the heads-up, I hope you find something here that interests you.
Some flower shots from this morning. Looking good, I'm starting to really get excited!
My corner of socal is getting awfully humid lately, gotta keep trimming those fans. Happy Thursday all!
Guys please keep your beef in pm, you can always use the ignore feature.
